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#1 Nov 04 2010 at 1:32 AM Rating: Good
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Most of these players were hardcore/semi hardcore they all have DoW/DoM classes in the mid or uper 20s they all have multiple professions over 20 and several other jobs 10+ and over the last week or two most of them have just quit logging in. My LS has been one where we tend to help each other out with crafting items and leves, we use voice chat and such but apparently it wasnt enough to keep most of them around. Its really going to be no fun playing this on an under populated server with random people who most likely dont speak english : (

SE please please have a miricle patch coming soon, if my LS mates cant bother to log in while its free what is gonna happen on Nov 23rd?
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#2 Nov 04 2010 at 2:30 AM Rating: Good
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My LS contains 86 player, 90% of them are active and have 5-6 classes over 20, now only 10 of them till play the game, am one of them, the rest stooped logging in and might come back after December update.

for me? am staying till March 2011, i feel that SE going to fix this game before PS3 people come in, if they don't then i don't think i want to play any MMO any more.

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#3 Nov 04 2010 at 2:33 AM Rating: Good
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My LS contains 86 player, 90% of them are active and have 5-6 classes over 20, now only 10 of them till play the game, am one of them, the rest stooped logging in and might come back after December update.

for me? am staying till March 2011, i feel that SE going to fix this game before PS3 people come in, if they don't then i don't think i want to play any MMO any more.


I turn 32 this month. Before I tried FFXIV I kinda told myself this COULD be my last MMO. I really hope they can turn things around because I dont want my MMO career to end on such a sour note.
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#4 Nov 04 2010 at 2:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Most of these players were hardcore/semi hardcore they all have DoW/DoM classes in the mid or uper 20s they all have multiple professions over 20 and several other jobs 10+ and over the last week or two most of them have just quit logging in. My LS has been one where we tend to help each other out with crafting items and leves, we use voice chat and such but apparently it wasnt enough to keep most of them around. Its really going to be no fun playing this on an under populated server with random people who most likely dont speak english : (

SE please please have a miricle patch coming soon, if my LS mates cant bother to log in while its free what is gonna happen on Nov 23rd?


Which LS? Which server? Just asking because I might be one of them.

I haven't logged in for nearly a week now. I'm not sure I ever wil either other than to give away my stuff. My friends have also stopped logging in and are talking about quitting before the end of the free period. And these are people that were defending the game a few weeks back. It's a sad state of affairs.
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#5 Nov 04 2010 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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#6 Nov 04 2010 at 2:48 AM Rating: Good
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
daour wrote:
My LS contains 86 player, 90% of them are active and have 5-6 classes over 20, now only 10 of them till play the game, am one of them, the rest stooped logging in and might come back after December update.

for me? am staying till March 2011, i feel that SE going to fix this game before PS3 people come in, if they don't then i don't think i want to play any MMO any more.


I turn 32 this month. Before I tried FFXIV I kinda told myself this COULD be my last MMO. I really hope they can turn things around because I dont want my MMO career to end on such a sour note.


I find it amusing I had the same notion. I'm 28 and told myself this would be the last MMO for me. Well sometimes you just gotta take the bad with the good lol


Edited, Nov 4th 2010 4:49am by LordBalrog
#7 Nov 04 2010 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
daour wrote:
My LS contains 86 player, 90% of them are active and have 5-6 classes over 20, now only 10 of them till play the game, am one of them, the rest stooped logging in and might come back after December update.

for me? am staying till March 2011, i feel that SE going to fix this game before PS3 people come in, if they don't then i don't think i want to play any MMO any more.


I turn 32 this monthBold Text. Before I tried FFXIV I kinda told myself this COULD be my last MMO. I really hope they can turn things around because I dont want my MMO career to end on such a sour note.


35 here and thats why am going to stop playing, after ffxi i went to WoW, didnt like it at all, then AoC witch is a fail, then WaR also a fail, Aion same thing and now FFXIV, i cant take it any more, the only mmo that i liked and loved playing it was FFXI and when they said FFXIV is coming i couldn't wait.

i really hope they fix it, i dont want to stop playing, but i cant play a game where you dont have any thing to do other than guildleve and localleve, and some short story quest that happens every 5-10 levels.

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#8 Nov 04 2010 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
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I'm 37, are there just a bunch of OG's in this game? lol

I've logged in once in the past two weeks. Was waiting to see what today's patch would be to see if I would finally want to login and play. Well, that's a bust.
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I'm 37, are there just a bunch of OG's in this game? lol

I've logged in once in the past two weeks. Was waiting to see what today's patch would be to see if I would finally want to login and play. Well, that's a bust.


Well im glad to see I am not the only 30+ players still playin : )
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I'm willing to give the game a few more months. SE invested too much into this game to let it fail. IF they read these complaint/worry threads, they would know they made a mistake trying to reinvent the **** wheel. They had a few years of experience under their belt with FFXI and yet they came out swinging as if this is their first MMO. I like this game to succeed because it has a lot of potential BUT SE need to cut the crap that turns this game into an abyss time-sink game that isn't fun at all.
#11 Nov 04 2010 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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im loving the game my ls is very active and we have 25+ level 35+ players
#12 Nov 04 2010 at 4:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have not logged in for about a week now. I cannot say I miss it or care. I will wait until the end of year to see if the changes make a difference. I like the game, I just cannot seem to get into it as much as I did for FFXI.
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#13 Nov 04 2010 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
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im loving the game my ls is very active and we have 25+ level 35+ players


Congrats : )
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#14 Nov 04 2010 at 5:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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My LS had over 100 members and a rather active forum back when the game launched. Since then it has twindled down to perhaps 30 members logging in at most, and the forum has virtually stopped being visited.

There has been a noticeable drop in players in-game on my server. Where it used to be packed in certain areas, now its only small groups. I would be really interested in seeing the server populations, but I don't think that information is available to us.

What concerns me most with so many players leaving is that we're still in the free months. People aren't being charged, but even giving it to them with no subscription they still aren't willing to log in. That is indicative of a much larger problem than an annoying UI and clumsy market system. We're talking about people just not liking the game itself.

With no new content planned until the December update, I'm seriously worried about what will happen on the 22nd. If so many have already stopped playing when its not costing them a monthly fee, how many more are going to leave once the free time runs out? I'll admit that I still haven't added any aubscription info to my account, and whether I do or not will depend entirely upon the November patch.
#15 Nov 04 2010 at 5:27 AM Rating: Excellent
Yep - same thing has happened in the linkshells (yes not just one) I am in. Only a handful of people are logging on anymore.
We had ventrilo server full of people in the beginning of the game... now... no one is on vent anymore.

I logged on yesterday for 20 minutes and then decided to leave because I was bored of getting the same levequests which asked me to kill the same monsters as I did a few days before... or make the same pair of boots for the same NPC that probably now has enough shoes for the rest of his life.

I was the one defending FFXIV few weeks ago saying that it was great yada yada... Now I can honestly say that it is BORING and I don't blame anyone who doesn't log on anymore.

All the issues regarding the UI, Server lag and Market Wards aside... I doubt I will be logging on much anymore unless some major content update happen soon.... EVEN IF THEY GIVE ANOTHER FREE MONTH!


Edited, Nov 4th 2010 7:28am by LeilaniWildfire
#16 Nov 04 2010 at 5:29 AM Rating: Good
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We seem to be getting hit by the rate down police, so i will be rating up to counter act.
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#17MajidahSihaam, Posted: Nov 04 2010 at 5:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) God forbid you'd actually have to socialize in a new mmorpg and make new friends.
#18 Nov 04 2010 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
God forbid you'd actually have to socialize in a new mmorpg and make new friends.


I have never played with the people from my LS before FFXIV. I did socialize and meet them in game. God forbid you socialize and ask me if I had tried this before making a sarcastic ***** baseless remark.
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#19MajidahSihaam, Posted: Nov 04 2010 at 5:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm pretty sure making a sarcastic ***** baseless remark counts as socializing.
#20 Nov 04 2010 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
God forbid you'd actually have to socialize in a new mmorpg and make new friends.


I have never played with the people from my LS before FFXIV. I did socialize and meet them in game. God forbid you socialize and ask me if I had tried this before making a sarcastic ***** baseless remark.



I'm pretty sure making a sarcastic ***** baseless remark counts as socializing.

If they are people who you've known for less than two months then who cares? Make new friends.

Edited, Nov 4th 2010 7:49am by MajidahSihaam


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#21 Nov 04 2010 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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A couple friends that I met back in XI have already quit.. The same goes for the first LS I actually enjoyed here in XIV. No matter what happens with this game in the future, this is pretty sad.

As I look over my Friend List, it's surprising how many are long gone, despite the game being a month and a half old =(

Edited, Nov 4th 2010 8:59am by Coyohma
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#22 Nov 04 2010 at 7:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Let's be honest here, if the november patch doesnt introduce fixes to a lot of the problems, and add a lot more content, how many people are going to pay to play this once the free period ends? Last night there was 800 people on Mysidia, and i know that number would be at least 1 less if it wasnt free to play. What a sad disaster the decision to release the game before it's ready has been.

Edited, Nov 4th 2010 9:12am by Eskeran
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#23 Nov 04 2010 at 7:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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The November and December patches are the problem.

They should never have announced them, they should have just started cranking out changes every week as fast as they could finish them.

Now people are waiting for the game to be fixed later this month instead of dealing with the crappy UI etc. "I'll just wait a couple of weeks till they fix it before I go looking for some gear so I can level". The big problem here is the nature of MMOs. If you're not playing you get over the addiction really quickly and it's much easier to walk away (it's why all MMOs have time sinks). So a lot of these people who are "waiting" are actually going to quit as they take up something else in the mean time.
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Let's be honest here, if the november patch doesnt introduce fixes to a lot of the problems, and add a lot more content, how many people are going to pay to play this once the free period ends? Last night there was 800 people on Mysidia, and i know that number would be at least 1 less if it wasnt free to play. What a sad disaster the decision to release the game before it's ready has been.


^^This. I login twice a week maybe...would be never if it wasn't free.
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Ive had 2 linkshells on Istory disappear on me, POOF!
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At launch my LS had 37 people in it. As of this week, I think we have 7 that are still active and logging in, myself included. This has been pretty much THE most frustrating gaming experience I've ever had. I'm trying to give SE until the 22nd to get everything fixed, but it becomes harder when every time you log in you're lucky to see 1-2 other people in the shell.

I spent so much ******* time setting up a website with forums, making rules, recruiting people, and anxiously awaiting this game. I feel like I have been cheated out of a great experience and it ****** me off. I can safely say that if this game is not vastly improved by the 22nd I will not pay for it, and on top of that I will not EVER buy another product from SE. It pains me to say that, but if they are too narrow-minded and arrogant to fix a game that shouldn't even have been released yet, I will not spend my hard earned money on a company that treats its customers so horribly.

If the game is not fixed by the 22nd, I sincerely hope it fails because I wouldn't want ANYONE to be paying for a game in this state.
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#27 Nov 04 2010 at 7:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not sure, I stopped playing even before the first free month was up. I had 3 ranks to 20 (carpenter, lancer, and botanist) as well as a bunch of rank 10 stuff. I stopped playing because I realized the game felt like work to me. The only reason I was logging on was to keep pace with other ppl in my LS. Its a shame because I wanted to like this game. I am in no way washing my hands of the game I will probably come back at PS3 release, but even tho the gameplay is free it wasn't enough to entice me to keep playing.

3 of my RL friends that were in the same LS as me and they have all stopped playing as well, so I'm sure our LS looks like the one you're describing =/
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36 here.

I played FFXI from launch until FFXIV came out (with a short 2 year break in the middle when I had my first child).

I was hoping FFXIV would be everything I needed to grow with MMORPGs. I was hoping:

- solo oriented
- casual oriented
- easy to get into things
- depth where necessary
- variety

While some of those things materialized, and its a good casual game, at level 20 I don't really feel like I'm making progress anymore. Because I like to solo, I am leveling Gold,Carpenter,Mining, Botany, and Lancer all at once. Well past level 20 this is a bit of a nightmare. I can't hope to get SP for all those classes in any sane amount of time only playing 2-3 hours a day. I guess I'll have to pick one or two but I don't know. I'm just discouraged.

The reason why is because its so much of a CHORE to do anything. I wouldn't mind if the UI was quick and easy to use or if the repair 'feature' didn't take up SO much of my time, or if it was easy to sell and buy stuff. But FFXIV makes it hard, PAINFULLY hard, to do any mundane task.

Most of my LS is still around and we are adding members quickly.... but perhaps I will be one of the ones that take off... We'll see.
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36 here.

I played FFXI from launch until FFXIV came out (with a short 2 year break in the middle when I had my first child).

I was hoping FFXIV would be everything I needed to grow with MMORPGs. I was hoping:

- solo oriented
- casual oriented
- easy to get into things
- depth where necessary
- variety

While some of those things materialized, and its a good casual game, at level 20 I don't really feel like I'm making progress anymore. Because I like to solo, I am leveling Gold,Carpenter,Mining, Botany, and Lancer all at once. Well past level 20 this is a bit of a nightmare. I can't hope to get SP for all those classes in any sane amount of time only playing 2-3 hours a day. I guess I'll have to pick one or two but I don't know. I'm just discouraged.

The reason why is because its so much of a CHORE to do anything. I wouldn't mind if the UI was quick and easy to use or if the repair 'feature' didn't take up SO much of my time, or if it was easy to sell and buy stuff. But FFXIV makes it hard, PAINFULLY hard, to do any mundane task.

Most of my LS is still around and we are adding members quickly.... but perhaps I will be one of the ones that take off... We'll see.


Well I am glad to see atleast a couple people in this thread have a stable active LS.
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#30 Nov 04 2010 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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35 here and thats why am going to stop playing, after ffxi i went to WoW, didnt like it at all, then AoC witch is a fail, then WaR also a fail, Aion same thing and now FFXIV, i cant take it any more, the only mmo that i liked and loved playing it was FFXI and when they said FFXIV is coming i couldn't wait.

i really hope they fix it, i dont want to stop playing, but i cant play a game where you dont have any thing to do other than guildleve and localleve, and some short story quest that happens every 5-10 levels.


49 here and played all those you just mentioned in addition to Champions Online and EVE.
I am thinking of going back to FFXI but can't bring myself to give SE any more money after the cost of the CE.

If they gave me $75 (cost of CE) worth of play time as compensation I might go back to FFXI, but for now it is back to EVE until they satisfactorily fix FFXIV.

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About the OGs; it's so true. There's not a single member of my LS younger than 25, as far as I know. I'm 31 myself. To not have a bunch of 12 year olds in my LS is quite refreshing.


I'm also gonna jump on the 'this is probably my last MMO' bandwagon, and also repeat the sentiment that XI was the only other MMO that I've played and liked. I played WoW, and hated it so much I quit after a month. I played SWG, but only after SOE took over :( and have played several F2P MMOs, which all sucked. Having said that, I'm prepared to stick it out, because I can see so much potential in this game if many of the issues are worked out. Assuming SE sticks to their guns and implements everything that said they would at the end of NOV in a satisfactory way, I can see myself playing XIV for a long time to come.

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#32 Nov 04 2010 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
I said back in 2008 that FFXI was my first and would be my last MMORPG. I stopped playing that in Feb. of 2010. My girlfriend and I moved over to WoW for a while (2 months to be exact), and quit that. Around my 31st birthday, in August, I got the itch for FFXIV, really bad. Played in the open beta, and jumped on with the CE launch on Sept. 22. We had 8 long time FFXI LS members with us in the first week, and now we're up to 15 members or so. I think only 3 of them are people we just met. I'm probably logged in the most, and only see a couple of people a day.

A few other people mentioned it, a lot are probably waiting for the Nov/Dec updates to see how the game changes. I refuse to craft or level a battle class right now. All I do is fish. I am almost inclined to say this will be my last MMO, but I don't wanna have my foot in my mouth in 2018 with the release of FFXVII or some junk.
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35 here and thats why am going to stop playing, after ffxi i went to WoW, didnt like it at all, then AoC witch is a fail, then WaR also a fail, Aion same thing and now FFXIV, i cant take it any more, the only mmo that i liked and loved playing it was FFXI and when they said FFXIV is coming i couldn't wait.

i really hope they fix it, i dont want to stop playing, but i cant play a game where you dont have any thing to do other than guildleve and localleve, and some short story quest that happens every 5-10 levels.


49 here and played all those you just mentioned in addition to Champions Online and EVE.
I am thinking of going back to FFXI but can't bring myself to give SE any more money after the cost of the CE.

If they gave me $75 (cost of CE) worth of play time as compensation I might go back to FFXI, but for now it is back to EVE until they satisfactorily fix FFXIV.



I've also thought about going back to FFXI, but now the 'Return Home to Vana'diel Campaign' I will have to start from scratch (althought I probably would have had to anyway). I'm not sure how difficult this would be now that the player base is so top heavy (i.e. there are few people levelling jobs from scratch). I can imagine struggling to get a party together and getting a group together to redo a bunch of missions would be difficult I'm sure, especially trying to get Sea Access.

I've been looking around and I might give EVE a go and SWTOR when that it released. Maybe I will revisit FFXIV when/if substantial improvements are made.

Another OG at 32...
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#34 Nov 04 2010 at 8:36 AM Rating: Excellent
Ya, same here, two shells so far. First one is completely gone, and the 2nd one I joined has one member left. To top it off, I have one friend left on my list that still frequently logs on. If all these people cancel before the update comes out, ouch. Even harder to enjoy this game when you constantly keep losing the people who might make bearable.
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I'm the proud wearer of multiple linkshells. There is the LS that consists of old FFXI friends, A larger LS that I joined while doing leves, and a LS of close friends. No matter what time I log in there is certain to be a lot of chatter between the 3 shells. If ones not very active I have 2 others to turn to.


Linkshells are supposed to be more of a social channel. Not a dedicated group like a guild. At some point when SE introduces Companies thats the group you'll be more dedicated to. Not your Linkshell,
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Let's be honest here, if the november patch doesnt introduce fixes to a lot of the problems, and add a lot more content, how many people are going to pay to play this once the free period ends? Last night there was 800 people on Mysidia, and i know that number would be at least 1 less if it wasnt free to play. What a sad disaster the decision to release the game before it's ready has been.


In 5 years they created a bare bones MMO, you think in a matter of months they are really going to fix everything and add a worthwhile amount of content? Keep in mind they are also working on the PS3 version right now and have limited staff(and what they do have is new people if the sackings a while ago are to be believed).

I assume their thinking is (to use an analogy) if they give you the cheap meal now you will sneer at it, if they starve you for 2 months and then give you that same meal you will eat it like you were given the best **** food made in the history of mankind. They are however going a little too far with the "starvation" period i think lol

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I've also thought about going back to FFXI, but now the 'Return Home to Vana'diel Campaign' I will have to start from scratch (althought I probably would have had to anyway). I'm not sure how difficult this would be now that the player base is so top heavy (i.e. there are few people levelling jobs from scratch). I can imagine struggling to get a party together and getting a group together to redo a bunch of missions would be difficult I'm sure, especially trying to get Sea Access.


Idk when you left but they added a leaves(sp?) type system to FFXI a while ago, you can solo/duo to 75 now if you want to in this way, 1 leave per hour. They also lifted the level caps on CoP leaving the NMs the same level so you can low man(even solo) those missions easily at 75+ or even lower.

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If I'm not mistaken that 5 years includes the development of Crystal Tools, the engine that FFXIV is based on. Creating a game engine from the ground up is no small feat from what I hear.
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Creating a game engine from the ground up is no small feat from what I hear.


True, which is why they should of used an existing engine like everyone else does. regardless though anyone that thinks they will make a huge patch fixing everything and adding masses of content in a few months is setting themselves up for a fall.
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If I'm not mistaken that 5 years includes the development of Crystal Tools, the engine that FFXIV is based on. Creating a game engine from the ground up is no small feat from what I hear.
What makes it especially bad is how poorly of a job they did.
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I logged in on Sunday for about 10 mins and there were a few LS people on. I don't have the desire to log in anymore though so I'll be another LS statistic. I'd rather stay late at work than come home and play this bore fest. At least at work I get paid to do the same monotonous grind every day. They need content quick. I won't be paying come end of this month, but I'll be keeping an eye on it and definitely plan to be back full swing once they get more quests, more varied enemies to fight, something real to work towards besides a rank # that doesn't really mean anything at this point.
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I too feel this problem. I have been on a few servers in a LS on each. Some servers I had 3 LS. All are dead except maybe 5 people.

The thing is look at the games that have come out for SE recently. You have ff13, which SE said after a few months that it was a rush place holder for FF Vs 13. It was a partial finish game. Now you have this one.

I personally feel this company has gone down the drain since they released FFX-2. FF12 was alright, but just didn't feel like the good old FF games and 11 was awesome minus the fact how much time everything took in that game.

Like what someone said in a previous post "Where is the life in these games?" FF13 and this one seem to lack it. It even seems that not only there are next to no one playing, but there are also next to no npcs.
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Another thing I would like to touch on.

Pre-made guilds.

I feel a large portion of us gamers have played many MMOs before. Many of us maybe have come from another game with a group of people. or maybe you happened to join a group of people that did just that.

Pre-mades are both a blessing and curse to mmo's.

On the good side you have a group of people who work well together, generally have fun, and your time in game will be easier because you have people around for support. If the game is something the group feels is a good fit you're in for a easy ride.

On the flip side:
you have a group of people come in who are very active, if they or whoever is the alpha of the group decides the game is terrible (not saying FFXIV is in a great state atm) the activity suddenly dies, a community of 30+ people are gone.

This has happened to in the last handful of MMO's i've played. AoC, WaR, Aion. I joined or went to the game with pre-made guilds in each of these games. They didn't last long. Those games while not huge successes still have people playing and enjoying the games. I was unfortunate to be part of a group who had a mass exodus and felt so abandoned I ultimately left the game too.

The games that I stuck around for the longest were games where I met people who started their own guild. started small and grew. These are the gamers who enjoy the game enough to stick out the hard times. FFXI I belonged to a few LS of my tenure there. each shell was founded in that game by a single person with a grand vision. Same with LoTR:o.

Currently in FFXIV I'm part of 3 different LS
1) premade of old FFXI friends
2) New shell built for FFXIV (great shell good peeps)
3) pre-made shells of close friends

I can tell you now, my main shell is the one that was founded in FFXIV, not the ones I came to the game with.

The first few months especially for FFXIV will be a very tumultuous time. You'll have people quiting not just for the lack of polish the game offers, but because the group they came in with has left. even if you yourself found some entertainment you may feel deserted and follow your group to the next great pasture.

My advise is if you like the game, and or fel the game has potential find a LS or multiple LS and weather the storm.
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#43 Nov 04 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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What I think they did a poor job of, is defect cleanup. There's a ton of stuff in this game that just isn't working as designed. I mean my game isn't crashing all over the place, and there's not a ton of game breaking glitches. There are a ton of bugs though that were reported hundreds if not thousands of times since alpha that have never been addressed with fixes. Those things are frustrating and should have held up the release date, but for whatever reason SE didn't see it that way. All of those things can be fixed in a patch. What I'm afraid of is SE releasing a patch with tons of fixes that cause other issues. Clearly, SE doesn't have much of an internal QA department, otherwise the glaring issues that were in alpha and beta that made it to release would have been addressed before the code was even given to the unpaid testers.
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#44 Nov 04 2010 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm having the same problem. A month before release, I was already signed up to be in a great LS, full of some pretty awesome people. Now, hardly any of them are ever online. Kinda makes me sad, because my LS was an integral part of keeping me interested in the game. Now I've been applying to different Linkshells to find a new in-game community to be a part of, but sadly, most of the ones I've looked into are having the same problem as my old LS.
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#45 Nov 04 2010 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I assume their thinking is (to use an analogy) if they give you the cheap meal now you will sneer at it, if they starve you for 2 months and then give you that same meal you will eat it like you were given the best **** food made in the history of mankind. They are however going a little too far with the "starvation" period i think lol



The problem with their strategy is there's a McDonalds across the street. Smiley: lol

I'm still hanging around the forums desperately hoping that the big update will make the game worth playing. I was *so* hyped about this game and I'm one of the people feeling so disappointed that I'm rather offended by S-E right now. At one time this company was my favorite videogame company of all time, and I'm seriously considering boycotting them wholesale now until I hear about some huge changes in their personnel.
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Yes I have been hopping from server to server. If you want a good lively english community, I found that Lindblum and Besaid are the only 2 good servers now because at least more than 800 people on total during peak time for NA.

The big test to SE's stubbornness is after Nov 21.
#47 Nov 04 2010 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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My LS had over 100 members and a rather active forum back when the game launched. Since then it has twindled down to perhaps 30 members logging in at most, and the forum has virtually stopped being visited.

There has been a noticeable drop in players in-game on my server. Where it used to be packed in certain areas, now its only small groups. I would be really interested in seeing the server populations, but I don't think that information is available to us.

What concerns me most with so many players leaving is that we're still in the free months. People aren't being charged, but even giving it to them with no subscription they still aren't willing to log in. That is indicative of a much larger problem than an annoying UI and clumsy market system. We're talking about people just not liking the game itself.

With no new content planned until the December update, I'm seriously worried about what will happen on the 22nd. If so many have already stopped playing when its not costing them a monthly fee, how many more are going to leave once the free time runs out? I'll admit that I still haven't added any aubscription info to my account, and whether I do or not will depend entirely upon the November patch.


I'm one of those people that has stopped logging in even though it's free.

I like the crafting system, but it has grown old fast. I dislike having to make the same product 150x just to gain one level, and each synth is far too time consuming.

I actually really enjoy fishing, but HATE the +1, +2, +3 items. I have to have about 30 free spaces in my inventory or else I end up throwing half of my catches away because inventory gets filled too fast. This might be okay if I were able to dump a bunch of my inventory on retainers, but since we are currently are limited to 1, that is not possible.

I completely 100% hate the battle system in game and find no enjoyment soloing and partying is flawed.

So since the announcement of an extra month free, I have logged in twice for probably a total of 4 hours. It just isn't fun, which is diappointing because I had high hopes for this game and saw potential in it. My guess though is that the "big update" will come AFTER November 22nd so that people have to subscribe for one month first to see the new changes. I personally don't think that I can tolerate waiting that long, and have a strong feeling that I will be disappointed even when the patch comes. I sincerely hope that SE proves me wrong, because I want the game to be successful and fun.
#48 Nov 04 2010 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:

I'm still hanging around the forums desperately hoping that the big update will make the game worth playing. I was *so* hyped about this game and I'm one of the people feeling so disappointed that I'm rather offended by S-E right now. At one time this company was my favorite videogame company of all time, and I'm seriously considering boycotting them wholesale now until I hear about some huge changes in their personnel.


I'm feeling the same way, I was SO excited to play this game I couldn't believe what happened. I was even in the closed beta where we all voiced our concerns, I thought maybe SE was turning over a new leaf and listening to their customers. And while I must say they are doing more than before I don't think it's enough. After this and FFXIII, and to a lesser extent Infinite Undiscovery, the past 3 SE games I've played aren't that impressive. It just seems to me they are more concerned with the bottom line and making games pretty than making great games nowadays. While yes I should have listened to reviews for those games, at the time I was like "It's SE! It'll be a good game!" even the previous FF's that ppl said weren't that good I really liked (all of them past 7 except X-2 which I've never played).

I'm not saying this just to bash on SE, I'm saying this because I want SE to be awesome! Unfortunately they are abusing their fan base by releasing games which are obviously not finished. I am not going to boycott SE, but I definately am not going to buy a product from them in the future until I hear reviews of it.

I actually was at the store the other day and thinking about picking up Front Mission Evolved till I saw SE made it, then I put it down. Heh, never done that before.
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+1

At this point I don't think they can do anything to win me back. Although I started off positive as **** and having a blast, it quickly turned into "oh god they 'get it' even less than in FFXI...". Basically like most accounts i've read about, it was about level 25+ that i realized how fast the grind was increasing across the board, while solo effectiveness was going down just as sharply.. All I had left to look forward to was the class quests which the miner one had hilarious characters and had me interested in moving forward.

Then I hit 25, no followup quest.... Then they released the chart showing the next quest is at lvl 30...

No deal. That's too long to grind for too short a high point.

My account is closed since early in the 2nd free month. I don't see it opening again.

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And because you can't kick someone from an LS without being next to them, you can't refill them.
My main LS had to create a new one to clear out all the people that left the game.
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Currently in FFXIV I'm part of 3 different LS
1) premade of old FFXI friends
2) New shell built for FFXIV (great shell good peeps)
3) pre-made shells of close friends

I can tell you now, my main shell is the one that was founded in FFXIV, not the ones I came to the game with.

The first few months especially for FFXIV will be a very tumultuous time. You'll have people quiting not just for the lack of polish the game offers, but because the group they came in with has left. even if you yourself found some entertainment you may feel deserted and follow your group to the next great pasture.

My advise is if you like the game, and or fel the game has potential find a LS or multiple LS and weather the storm.


This is good advice. The shell I started with has a leader who never even got to rank 10/PL 10... so it is really limited in growth even if there are a couple sackholders like myself who have stuck around and continue to invite people.

I just recently joined another shell, and it helps to have a couple channels worth of chatter going on and another set of folks to grind with. I'll probably add another shell or two in the future as well. SE made a good decision when they decided to allow you to have multiple shells at once. I wish I didn't need to switch the pearl to speak to folks but - still it was one of the few good design decisions they made.

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