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#102 Nov 11 2010 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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huh, I am on Rab and when I play there never seems to be less than 1000-1300 on

712 on right now. It's just getting worse.. Do these 6-700s become 4 and 5 hundred in a couple weeks? At what point does it become false advertising for SE to call this a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game? Mostly joking, but yeah...
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we dont need an ah. that wouldnt bring anyone back or keep anyone playing. dont fool yourself. please use the time u could potentially use making an ah putting something that isnt already in game, in. such as more content, quests, finishing the outposts that dont have so much as a vendor. thank you have a nice day
#104 Nov 11 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Decent
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What is the point of more content if we are having difficulties with party formation because of the bad UI for party formation.
IMO it is number one priority before ANYTHING else they do.


The PT search function isn't that bad to be honest. It's just most people don't use it and most people PT with LS mates. If people actually used the system as it was intended it's pretty good. It allows PT's to basically be built on jobs needed instead of people seeking.

They should however, combine the two systems. Allow us to flag up for a PT, and allow the PT ldr to "advertise" slots in their PT.

I think is case is a point of us players not taking advantage of a good system because we are so used to XI. and LFP'n all day.
#105 Nov 12 2010 at 7:45 AM Rating: Default
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It isn't as bad as you think.....it's worse.

The worth of gil is plummeting on the trading market (down 50% in two weeks). One gil trading site has apparently stopped bothering with FFXIV. Others report like 3-5 trades in 2 days.
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Heh, I imagine that on the off chance the game does turn around, there will be some rich fools who have ended up with a bunch of gil from friends that quit, and they'll be the millionaires of XIV.
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#107 Nov 12 2010 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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┃  2010年後半 ┃
┃09/23~09/25 ┃  -----  -----  -----  -----  28887  30404  31890
┃09/26~10/02 ┃  36644  -----  30949  -----  36121  40302  45062
┃10/03~10/09 ┃  45049  43194* 42542*  -----  42217  39216  46499
┃10/10~10/16 ┃  47565  45504  41894  40516  39502  36525  43271
┃10/17~10/23 ┃  44582  39279  38905  38339  36546  24907** 40548
┃10/24~10/30 ┃  40392  36309  35832  33867  31553  32518  36264
┃10/31~11/06 ┃  36112  33877  30929  32672  29031  29064  32384
┃11/07~11/13 ┃  33373  28968  28675  28052  27023  -----  -----

The statistic of Japan peak time server population for each days
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#108 Nov 12 2010 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
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┃  2010年後半 ┃
┃09/23~09/25 ┃  -----  -----  -----  -----  28887  30404  31890
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┃10/10~10/16 ┃  47565  45504  41894  40516  39502  36525  43271
┃10/17~10/23 ┃  44582  39279  38905  38339  36546  24907** 40548
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The statistic of Japan peak time server population for each days


Peak @ 47k on Sun 10/10, than you can see the downward trend from there on, it looks like Sunday is the biggest day for them and in less than 30 days 12k people have stopped logging into this game. I'm willing to bet the data from this weekend will put that number below 30k as it looks to be dropping by 3k+ per week...

That sucking sound @ the SE office is the sound of all that money flying away. The most depressing part about all of this is it's still free to play!
#109 Nov 18 2010 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
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This is a new server low for me on Saronia. Logged in to do some grinding and the population is 662. Ported to the major city and there seems to be about 100+ in each city. SO that leaves roughly 300 people running around doing stuff.


This is the reason for the extra free month. Servers are dying.

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 7:30pm by doubleax

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 7:30pm by doubleax
#110 Nov 18 2010 at 6:36 PM Rating: Good
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No one will argue at this point that server populations are anywhere near healthy. This will likely force a server merger or two. The main issue at hand is, for the time being, the game is simply lacking in "fun."
#111 Nov 18 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah hopefully we will see the populations increase a bit after the first big update.
#112 Nov 18 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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622 people on Fabul. 4:46pm pst
normally in the 600s. I like it.

On busy weekends, it goes up to about 1k
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10 am Japan time, Figaro (one of the most populated servers by far):

776

substract 300 bazaars.
#114 Nov 18 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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Varies alot i think the lowest ive seen on selbina is 800 sad considering it was one of the highest originally was even psedu-locked.
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#115 Nov 18 2010 at 9:52 PM Rating: Default
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Pray for this game come Cataclysm release. Pray hard.
#116 Nov 19 2010 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
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Pray for this game come Cataclysm release. Pray hard.


No hope, deathwing is gonna rip this game a new one and laugh all the way to the bank
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#117 Nov 19 2010 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Pray for this game come Cataclysm release. Pray hard.


expansions dont steal many customers, they mainly just keep people who are currently playing in the game while creating even more revenue.

do you seriously think people who arent playing it now, and dont care about it, are gonna go play it just cuz it has a new expansion....
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#118 Nov 19 2010 at 12:34 AM Rating: Decent
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IMHO, this game is headed to F2P and then possible server merges. It only makes sense from a business standpoint. Of course this will probably not happen until after the PS3 release, but not very long after.

Predictions
March 2010 PS3 release: pushed back a month or two in order to co-release with a "free xpac", I would assume that we could possibly see the release of Raids and instanced dungeons!!!

April 2010: PS3 release is marred by all the backlash from a substandard release, SE sells <1/5 of units shipped at most.

May 2010: SE announces FFXIV will become F2P, and all previous owners of retail or ce box will become lifetime premium members (like LotR), and SE will make ALOT more money on micro transactions then from their current 50,000 subscription base.

June/July 2010: Depending on the success of FFXIV going F2P, this is when I would anticipate server merges. The alternative, would be that SE is making huge profits from micro transactions, and they announce a huge summer xpac.

Alot of people will probably rate this post sub default lol, but honestly this might be the best scenario to keep this game afloat, and also have a strong chance for success. FFXIV could very well dominate a huge part of the MMO market with the proper F2P system set up and a nice marketing campaign.
#119 Nov 19 2010 at 12:38 AM Rating: Good
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expansions dont steal many customers, they mainly just keep people who are currently playing in the game while creating even more revenue.

do you seriously think people who arent playing it now, and dont care about it, are gonna go play it just cuz it has a new expansion....


I quit FFXI for a while to play Burning Crusade, so yeah, I think so.

Edited, Nov 19th 2010 1:38am by Shijou
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#120 Nov 19 2010 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I can definitely see this game going F2P with an item shop, and honestly, I think it would work extremely well with a console and PC audience. Not all free games are bad btw, DDO and LoTRO are amazing if you're into the quest grind kind of game.
#121 Nov 19 2010 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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(Bodhum) hovering around min 600 ~ 900max (for both the peak Japanese/NA time) in the past few days =(
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#122 Nov 19 2010 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't understand why Square don't artifically bloat the numbers, it would be fairly easy to do and it's not like its below them. They obviously bought off the JP review sites.

Maybe they are waiting till the updates to artifically bloat the player numbers.
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expansions dont steal many customers, they mainly just keep people who are currently playing in the game while creating even more revenue.

do you seriously think people who arent playing it now, and dont care about it, are gonna go play it just cuz it has a new expansion....


People get bored with a game they're already playing and go play other games... then when the new expansion comes out, they leave the "other" game.
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#124 Nov 19 2010 at 3:28 AM Rating: Good
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I don't understand why Square don't artifically bloat the numbers, it would be fairly easy to do and it's not like its below them. They obviously bought off the JP review sites.


Ugh, too true. To my knowledge, Famitsu and Dengeki still haven't released scores for XIV.
#125 Nov 19 2010 at 3:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Pray for this game come Cataclysm release. Pray hard.


expansions dont steal many customers, they mainly just keep people who are currently playing in the game while creating even more revenue.

do you seriously think people who arent playing it now, and dont care about it, are gonna go play it just cuz it has a new expansion....


Indeed i mean when wow launched they had all 12mil players just lining up to sign in right ? oh wait every expansion the number has gone up by almost 3 mil <.<

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I can definitely see this game going F2P with an item shop, and honestly, I think it would work extremely well with a console and PC audience. Not all free games are bad btw, DDO and LoTRO are amazing if you're into the quest grind kind of game.


I tried lotro out and dunno, it looked horrible for me <.<
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Indeed i mean when wow launched they had all 12mil players just lining up to sign in right ? oh wait every expansion the number has gone up by almost 3 mil <.<



In China. Most population increases actually occur shortly after the reviews, but the population of WOW in the western world has been slowly dwindling as the game ages. Logged in to check on the world being kerplodedecimated but even those events pale in comparison to the previous ones. It may just be that I now have a much better pc and can play any game I feel like. but WOW has nothing going for it at the moment that cannot be found elsewhere.
The real reason WOW is able to garner a large following is quite simple: marketing. They say 12m, but its really 3m outside of Eastern pay-by-the-hour servers, minus 1m that are multiboxers, hackers, cheaters, and rmt, for a grand total of a million EU, and another million (Maybe less, maybe a little more) NA scattered across way too many realms.
Hiring popular celebrities like William Shatner, Mister T, Ozzy Ozbourne? Pure marketing genius.
The game mechanics, programming, and so on? Not so much genius as Skinner Box tactics. You log in, push a lever, get your daily pellets, and then log out due to boredom. Its not fun, its learned behavior.
One of the reasons I cannot enjoy FFXIV atm is that it is also a virtual Skinner Box. Log in, do your leves, craft a little, log out due to boredom. Repeat again a day and a half later. Its fun the first few times you get that food pellet, but boring after. I love SE's PR, I love the game world, I love my Elezen. I love everything about the game except for the most important part...there is nothing unique to do once the novelty wears off. I believe we need more events ingame like the opening quests. I want another giant enraged goobue attack! A pack of wolves! Large scale attacks on the ferry! I want FUN!

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expansions dont steal many customers, they mainly just keep people who are currently playing in the game while creating even more revenue.

do you seriously think people who arent playing it now, and dont care about it, are gonna go play it just cuz it has a new expansion....


I quit FFXI for a while to play Burning Crusade, so yeah, I think so.

Edited, Nov 19th 2010 1:38am by Shijou


As did I. There's a good chance I'll be picking up WoW again on cata release as well.

Cataclysm may not be the final nail in FFXIV's coffin, but **** if it isn't getting close (you have no idea how much it hurts to say that).

#129 Nov 19 2010 at 5:04 AM Rating: Good
This sucks. I haven't played since early October cause i just got sick of it but on Seronia ive have noticed some ffxi dudes i know either quit or now spend more time back on ffxi.

I really don't want ffxiv to fail but i dunno what else to do with it.
Just waiting to see how things turn out i guess.
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#130 Nov 19 2010 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Lindblum, just recently quit but the population was steadily on the decline. Saw a lot of the same people standing in the same areas afk day after day as well.
#131 Nov 19 2010 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Ostia wrote:
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I can definitely see this game going F2P with an item shop, and honestly, I think it would work extremely well with a console and PC audience. Not all free games are bad btw, DDO and LoTRO are amazing if you're into the quest grind kind of game.


I tried lotro out and dunno, it looked horrible for me <.<


Don't get me wrong, they were just suggestions... I don't like LoTRO either lol. However, it is a big name MMO with tons of content and a deep and rich storyline. I found DDO to be a lot more fun because it reminded me of Phantasy Star Online... solid action-rpg gameplay.
#132 Nov 19 2010 at 7:26 AM Rating: Default
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We had 1.4kish to start with on Saronia, now its around 800-900. I don't see it go above 1000.

Definitely 'thinning out' - if that's what we're calling it these days >.>



I don't know how that is possible. When I switched to your server (about 2-3 weeks ago) from Besaid, everything moved much much smoother. I didn't have to wait 5 minutes for the leve NPCs to pop. After playing Saronia for a week, the lag started getting bad... then really bad...

I haven't done head counts though... Personally, I wish there were less people :(
#133 Nov 19 2010 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
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is there actually any point of these threads? I doubt anyone who IS playing and enjoying it (myself included) wants to see them and they're likely to put more people off
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#134 Nov 19 2010 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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Dropping down to low 600's now on Kashuan from 1200-1400 a month ago.
#135 Nov 19 2010 at 7:42 AM Rating: Default
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is there actually any point of these threads? I doubt anyone who IS playing and enjoying it (myself included) wants to see them and they're likely to put more people off


Most threads out there/here are useless banter. There haven't been a lot of posts from people actually testing game dynamics. The ones that are out there tend to get buried by excessive complaining.

I blame myself too: I barely have enough time in the week to do my leves. The only reason I have time to post right now is because I am in a class (instead of work).
#136 Nov 19 2010 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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The more that people read about quitting, the more people will quit. Each post complaining about something and demanding that people quit does not help the game. Yes I've noticed population decline on Trabia, and it hasn't stopped my LS from growing and getting busier. We can no longer field only 2 complete sp grind groups, we have too many people.

Lots of people leave games also to play the newest simple player games out there. I know quite few of LS members were temporarily away to play New Vegas, Black Ops, etc. Some are waiting for the patch, while many others are still playing. Complaining, demanding people to quit, etc to this scale accomplishes little except drive people away from the game or shut them off from these forums. Doesn't do anyone good...
#137 Nov 20 2010 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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708 users world wide on trabia on thursday evening.(EST)
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1280 on world wide Friday night. Trabia

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#139 Nov 20 2010 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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1:40pm CST and theres 732 players on Fabul. Last night we got up to 1032 around NA peak time. The server populations are looking pretty bleak.
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#141 Nov 20 2010 at 3:02 PM Rating: Good
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XIV isn't going anywhere. The updates will bring some people back.
Ps3 release will pump up sever numbers at least a little bit probably a good amount if the updates are good. Also have to figure in that XIV will be the only mmo on ps3.
Then when content from cata dries up some will migrate to XIV.

Finally XI has ben around for a pretty long time now and its only going to live for so much longer. After XI has ben put out to pasture a large number of the players that haven't come over to XIV will.

Edited, Nov 20th 2010 4:07pm by Snicklefritze
#142 Nov 20 2010 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't understand why Square don't artifically bloat the numbers, it would be fairly easy to do and it's not like its below them. They obviously bought off the JP review sites.

Maybe they are waiting till the updates to artifically bloat the player numbers.


The JP review sites that gave the game horrible scores?
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I'm not understanding why there are people who seem to be upset by the fact that this game very well may become F2P. Sure, it's a small sign of failure because SE expected to have people paying to play, but lets be honest... Regardless of how little many of you feel 13 bucks a month is to pay, is the game content really valued at 13 bucks a month? Most of the people who are willing to pay it are investing in the hope that one day the game actually will be worth the fee. I'm not sure why exactly, but just a question I have to the people who do support this game in it's current state.
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#144 Nov 20 2010 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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On Istory playerbase is varrieing between 680~ on US Prime and 1.300~ on JP Prime during workdays and around 100-200 more on weekend.

I think the playerbase will not rise too much due to the patches. Sure, some will come back, but most won't. I see a big playerbase addition coming with PS3 Release since the game gets his "2nd chance" when it hits the shelves.
Not to mention the many players who couldn't start with the pc version cause their pc was not good enough to make it playable.
#145 Nov 20 2010 at 5:51 PM Rating: Excellent
Currenlty 975 on Figaro Saturday 5:50pm cst. 196 of those are in Uldah.
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Japan Peak Time (22:00-23:00 Japan time)FF14 Population

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┃  2010年後半 ┃
┃09/23~09/25 ┃  -----  -----  -----  -----  28887  30404  31890
┃09/26~10/02 ┃  36644  -----  30949  31250  36121  40302  45062
┃10/03~10/09 ┃  45049  43194* 42542*  -----  42217  39216  46499
┃10/10~10/16 ┃  47565  45504  41894  40516  39502  36525  43271
┃10/17~10/23 ┃  44582  39279  38905  38339  36546  24907** 40548
┃10/24~10/30 ┃  40392  36309  35832  33867  31553  32518  36264
┃10/31~11/06 ┃  36112  33877  30929  32672  29031  29064  32384
┃11/07~11/13 ┃  33373  28968  28675  28052  27023  25987  29123
┃11/14~11/20 ┃  28847  26343  24277  25410  24389  23615  25234

Stats speaks the truth. The population keeps decreasing every week.
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#147 Nov 20 2010 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Which sites would this be? Regardless Famitsu is one of the big JP review sites and there has been no review so far has there? The reason for that is very obvious, if the game had of been good it would of been on the site within the first week or two.
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Japan Peak Time (22:00-23:00 Japan time)FF14 Population

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┃  2010年後半 ┃
┃09/23~09/25 ┃  -----  -----  -----  -----  28887  30404  31890
┃09/26~10/02 ┃  36644  -----  30949  31250  36121  40302  45062
┃10/03~10/09 ┃  45049  43194* 42542*  -----  42217  39216  46499
┃10/10~10/16 ┃  47565  45504  41894  40516  39502  36525  43271
┃10/17~10/23 ┃  44582  39279  38905  38339  36546  24907** 40548
┃10/24~10/30 ┃  40392  36309  35832  33867  31553  32518  36264
┃10/31~11/06 ┃  36112  33877  30929  32672  29031  29064  32384
┃11/07~11/13 ┃  33373  28968  28675  28052  27023  25987  29123
┃11/14~11/20 ┃  28847  26343  24277  25410  24389  23615  25234

Stats speaks the truth. The population keeps decreasing every week.


What I think is going to happen is that since the games in the shape it is the numbers of concurrent players are lower then they should be. But I think what we'll see is a spike in players after the next patch, then slow decrease for each patch every 3 months. Its kinda like this with every game, patch day comes everyone plays for a month, then slowly decrease until 2 months when the next patch is released.

Hopefully that with these new patches, we will spike back up to 40k and slow decrease of 1k-1.5k~ a week concurrent until the next patch, instead of 4k a week.
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IMHO, this game is headed to F2P and then possible server merges.


The day SE makes FFXIV F2P is the day Bill Mahr realizes he needs to GTFO.



Yeah you're right, they'll probably just shut it down completely and call it a loss.
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Indeed i mean when wow launched they had all 12mil players just lining up to sign in right ? oh wait every expansion the number has gone up by almost 3 mil <.<



In China. Most population increases actually occur shortly after the reviews, but the population of WOW in the western world has been slowly dwindling as the game ages.


I too love making stuff up in firm declarative sentences!

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They say 12m, but its really 3m outside of Eastern pay-by-the-hour servers, minus 1m that are multiboxers, hackers, cheaters, and rmt, for a grand total of a million EU, and another million (Maybe less, maybe a little more) NA scattered across way too many realms.


Actually I heard it was 11.9 million gold farmers, and 100,000 "real" players. My cousin's dog-groomer has a delivery boy who's uncle works for Blizzard's cleaning service, and I have it on definite authority that your numbers are wrong.

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One of the reasons I cannot enjoy FFXIV atm is that it is also a virtual Skinner Box.


Here's something that might just blow your mind- all MMOs are virtual skinner boxes. Or did you think when people mindlessly grinded mobs in highly optimized repetitive patterns in FFXI, so they could see their XP bars go up, that it was some sort of deep mental challenge? Actually, you probably did think that. Go go cognitive dissonance!

Edited, Nov 22nd 2010 1:17am by goomba666
#151 Nov 24 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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off peak times i know, but it is a holiday in the US and most ppl should be out of school or have a half day at work.

4:30pm EST on istory and 523 ppl online.

That is the lowest I have ever seen the numbers.

Istory starting to hover around 600-700 during NA prime time and 1000-1100 on JP prime time. Think this weeked saw 1300 on at the most.

Not sure if SE can keep this up with this few people playing and it's still free....
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