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#1 Nov 05 2010 at 4:55 AM Rating: Good
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So, for reasons that I wont go into, I've decided to cancel my FFXIV account before I have to start paying. My intention is to take a break for 6 months by which time SE may have fixed the major issues, added more content and everyone will generally be much happier about things; at least that's what I would like to think.

In the meantime I'm left wondering, what to do with my shiny new rig and my rekindled lust for all things MMO. I've been spending 100% of my time IRL since I quit FFXI 2 years ago and would like to try some of the MMO's I've missed out on before (maybe) going back to FFXIV.

My question is, does anyone have any suggestions? I've played WoW before, but didn't really get into it. I also tried LOTRO a few years back, but didn't really get into that either as it felt a bit too much like WoW to me although, admittedly, I didn't spend long playing it. I was thinking about trying EVE as I'd like to try something a bit different to all the 'WoW clones' out there. Having said that, I don't want anything that's different in the way that FFXIV has turned out to be 'different'.

It's just occurred to me that I find myself in a situation that's a little like being dumped my first girlfriend and immediately going on the rebound looking for a replacement. Or perhaps, instead of being dumped, I suddenly realised my girlfriend was really pretty, but incredibly stupid.

Edited, Nov 5th 2010 6:55am by Mince
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#2 Nov 05 2010 at 5:29 AM Rating: Good
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WoW is definently worth a second look with the new rig. 4.0 (not FFXIV's review the patch) has really changed quite a lot. Random Dungeon finder is also amazing when paired with quests for any and all leveling needs. I was in culture shock when I jumped ship but its been fun so far. I wish SE would just take the things that do work in WoW and put them in FFXIV instead of trying to directly one up them. They did achieve this in graphics but I mean arghhh so much frustration.... Anyways that's just my suggestion. Another choice if you are willing to spend a little bit more cash is STEAM. Check out bundle packs / specials and you could waste days easily. Last but certainly not least option, pirate the **** out everything and never look back.
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#3 Nov 05 2010 at 6:40 AM Rating: Good
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EQII is actually a very good game and I highly suggest giving it a try. Be warned, it is high fantasy and if that kind of thing turns you off, well...there's no escaping it. The game has a player to player selling system that works! speaking to a broker allows you to search and find items which you can either buy then and there or travel to sellers home for a discount, you hear that SE?

Right now you can try it free as well.

If that doesn't do it for you, take a look at this sortable list, maybe something will catch your eye
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm

#4 Nov 05 2010 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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I would suggest giving DDO a shot, it's free to DL and free to play.

It's one of those games you either love or hate. The entire game is instanced, which gives it a different feel than alot of MMO, but it wont take long so know whether you're going to be ok with it or not. There's no real grind, all your leveling is done in dungeons/instances which I kind of think is it's strength. It's not a game you grind till max level to get to endgame. Playing at level 3, 5, 7, 20(max) is all equally fun.

The combat is very fast paced, and mobile, not like FFXIV where you stand in one spot and push a few buttons till a mob dies. There's alot of multiple enemy fights where you may have to run allover the place, jumping and climbing and swimming.

The UI is kind of a ****, it isn't nearly as bad as FFXIV, it's actually quite efficient, just an ugly GUI. There is an AH for what its worth. It's also understandably full of D&D nerds, so take that how you will.
#5 Nov 05 2010 at 7:16 AM Rating: Good
I sympathize with your frustrations and have pretty much drawn the same conclusions, though I do plan on keeping my subscription active and popping in from time to time as my interest is piqued.

I actually started playing Everquest 2. They have a free server now, with the ability to purchase extras. You can actually start playing withing 10 minutes, as they just download the first zones and the core parts of the game, and you download the rest of the game later, which ot me is pretty smart. I always liked Everquest 2 a lot. It has lots of content, decent graphics, good music, fun combat, fun crafting, and pretty good social network/community. Worth giving a try. It's a lot more like FFXIV and FFXI than WoW is, though it does have some WoW=ish elements as well. Might be a nice compromise for you, and since it's free and quick to get up and going, might be worth checking out at least.

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#6 Nov 05 2010 at 7:57 AM Rating: Excellent
Yeah DDO can be fun as well, and is free, but I'd like to say a few things the previous poster didn't mention.

First if you don't find a good group of people to play with, you will likely get bored of it fast. So be willing to search out a guild as soon as possible. Pick up groups are a pain in the rear in that game.

Second, don't be put off by the max level 20. Each level is broken up into 4 stages. 1 is the actual level, while 3 are milestones in which you get something like a trait you get to add your character, which sometimes improves him and sometimes rarely gives him a new ability.

Third, I disagree that it's not a grind, at least it was when I last played it. There is a lot of content, but usually for each level you'll be doing the same instance multiple times before you gain your next level. You also don't get exp for killing monsters, you get exp for completing objectives for each dungeon. Neither thing makes the game bad, but it's as much of a grind fest as most MMOs, and it might take some getting used to the different exp gaining concept... though it works much better for the game, since exp is distributed fairly amongst the team without needing complex formulae for determining who contributed the most to each particular battle.

DDO is a game like no other out there, that is for certain, and he's right you will either love it or you'll have it, and you'll know very quickly which. If you do find yourself on the fence early in, then at least put some effort into finding a group of regular people to party with and do dungeons because that really is what makes or breaks this game in my opinion. If you can find a good group, you'll find the game extremely fun and rewarding.

Hope this helps!
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#7 Nov 05 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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charityneverfaileth wrote:
Yeah DDO can be fun as well, and is free, but I'd like to say a few things the previous poster didn't mention.

First if you don't find a good group of people to play with, you will likely get bored of it fast. So be willing to search out a guild as soon as possible. Pick up groups are a pain in the rear in that game.

Second, don't be put off by the max level 20. Each level is broken up into 4 stages. 1 is the actual level, while 3 are milestones in which you get something like a trait you get to add your character, which sometimes improves him and sometimes rarely gives him a new ability.

Third, I disagree that it's not a grind, at least it was when I last played it. There is a lot of content, but usually for each level you'll be doing the same instance multiple times before you gain your next level. You also don't get exp for killing monsters, you get exp for completing objectives for each dungeon. Neither thing makes the game bad, but it's as much of a grind fest as most MMOs, and it might take some getting used to the different exp gaining concept... though it works much better for the game, since exp is distributed fairly amongst the team without needing complex formulae for determining who contributed the most to each particular battle.



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Ya you definetly need to find groups in the game, you CAN pretty much solo to max level but it will be boring, and finding a grp might be hard w/o a guild.

I guess it was sort of misleading to say it isnt a grind, I kinda meant it isn't a normal grind, where you're killing x ammt of mobs per level every level to max. But ya you will redo the same dungeons quite a few times.

Also I forgot to mention it has built in voice chat for groups and raids, which works quite well and most everyone uses.
#8 Nov 05 2010 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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EQ2 is really the only other decent option out there if you are a fan of a well made MMO with good community and a ton to do. Prepare yourself for a decent learning curve. The housing alone you can spend days upon days with, heritage quests, mentoring system, dungeons, named hunting, crafting, AA's, defiling, shiny farming, etc etc.
#9 Nov 05 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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LOTRO as F2P is actually a super solid game to be honest. I'm having an absolute blast.
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#10 Nov 05 2010 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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I am thinking of doing the same thing, I am back to playing XI and I am slowly getting back in to the swing of things. Trials/Abyss seems to be the main things for me to do.
Until they release the new level limits though and final big updates im not sure about XI at the moment. Same as XIV till updates.

So what to do in mean time, I am concentrating on my Real Life. Been waiting for Gran Tourismo to come out. Tempted to get the new F1 game....
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#11 Nov 05 2010 at 9:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I reactivate my Aion account every couple months when I get bored. Nice graphics and pretty fun to play if you don't take it too seriously. Check it out.
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#12 Nov 05 2010 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
Runescape is the best MMO evarrrrrr!
It will defiantly fill that big nasty hole that FFXIV took from you.

Im being completely serious :)
I stopped playing RS for FFXIV, and im kinda regretting buying the collectors edition yada yada. RS is 5 bucks per month, and satisfies me just fine. IDK why but i love RS.
#13Sycko, Posted: Nov 05 2010 at 10:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know that the game could be alot better, i like it anyway, sure have alot of missing content but im still playin it and wont cancel my account. When the game is fixed and when more content will be available, il be ready to enjoy it entirely. I wont get influenced by all the hater out there. SE sure wont let the game fail, they will sure work alot harder than if the player would actually like the game how it is. SE is known to be independent, meaning that they create a game wanting gamer to adapt to the way they want us to play, but now they wont have a choice to adapt their game on what player want to play to regain trust and atract more player. Otherwise, they will FAIL.@#%^in hard.
#14 Nov 05 2010 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
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I'm just wondering and not to derail but why keep paying monthly on 14 if you plan on not coming back for 3 or more months? Not paying would make them see more of a need to get is all up to snuff then keeping paying but not logging in. Once they have your cash but no logins all they see is a good product but you have no time to play atm. Cash flow keeps the dumb dumb, where as a clear un-happy sign is the lower income.
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#15 Nov 05 2010 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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Sycko wrote:
I wont get influenced by all the hater out there.
Edited, Nov 5th 2010 12:15pm by Sycko


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#16 Nov 05 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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EVE is an interesting experience, there is a 15 day trial, it's a "like it or hate it" sort of thing. I'd give it a try, I don't particularly care for it but I have friends who love it.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I've opted to start with EVE and, so far, I'm loving it. The combat reminds me of the old Star Wars games like X-Wing and TIE Fighter from the early 90's (showing my age now) and the economy seems really amazing; I've not seen anything like it in a game. It's a bit too early to say whether or not I'll be sticking with it, but if not then DDO is next on my list.

Maybe see you in 6 months time assuming SE has pulled their fingers out of their asses and I'm not completely hooked on something else.
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Mince wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I've opted to start with EVE and, so far, I'm loving it. The combat reminds me of the old Star Wars games like X-Wing and TIE Fighter from the early 90's (showing my age now) and the economy seems really amazing; I've not seen anything like it in a game. It's a bit too early to say whether or not I'll be sticking with it, but if not then DDO is next on my list.

Maybe see you in 6 months time assuming SE has pulled their fingers out of their asses and I'm not completely hooked on something else.


EVE is an awsome game, just be careful and remember that in eve, griefing is a valid game mechanic.
and you never have to worry about alt tabbing in eve, you can do it but ****, it has an internet browser ingame lol.

I also do second the EQ2 it was as close to FFXI as I've come to, and one of the best communities I've ever seen.

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#22 Nov 08 2010 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I am about to do the same thing, here are some ideas:

Vindictus just came out and it is completely free, very fun combat and its fast paced with more content coming out soon. its more like a third person fighting game where you actively use left and right mouse clicks to create combos etc. and the environments are completely destructible, I am enjoying this waaaay more than ffxiv at the moment.

Aion is not that bad either, pvp/pve gameplay is fun and you start getting into so groups grinding and leveling early on and it keeps up. Graphics are very good for an mmo as well.

FFXI yep I said it lol, but the new director for the game has made some crazy changes to the endgame and leveling which sounds pretty fun. just a suggestion haha
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KristoFurwalken wrote:
I would suggest giving DDO a shot, it's free to DL and free to play.

It's one of those games you either love or hate. The entire game is instanced, which gives it a different feel than alot of MMO, but it wont take long so know whether you're going to be ok with it or not. There's no real grind, all your leveling is done in dungeons/instances which I kind of think is it's strength. It's not a game you grind till max level to get to endgame. Playing at level 3, 5, 7, 20(max) is all equally fun.

The combat is very fast paced, and mobile, not like FFXIV where you stand in one spot and push a few buttons till a mob dies. There's alot of multiple enemy fights where you may have to run allover the place, jumping and climbing and swimming.

The UI is kind of a ****, it isn't nearly as bad as FFXIV, it's actually quite efficient, just an ugly GUI. There is an AH for what its worth. It's also understandably full of D&D nerds, so take that how you will.


This is what I was going to recommend. I played DDO for about a year or so (only reason I quit is due to irl issues). It was very fun...but maybe due to the fact that I'm a D&D fan. And as the above poster mentioned, it's probably a game you either love or hate. At least give it a try. It has a VERY different feel than FFXI and FFXIV, both visually and gameplay-wise.

From what I've played and seen and heard, DDO has the best jumping mechanics in any MMORPG I'm aware of. It beats the crap out of jumping in WoW and WAR. I know a lot of people are anti-jumping in MMOs, but the only reason I wanted to see jump in XIV was because of the experience I had with jumping in DDO.

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#24 Nov 08 2010 at 2:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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I only played WoW for a while because of a IRL friend, and I never played Guild Wars despite hearing many good things about that game.

Guild Wars 2 is looking really good and interesting from the information I've been reading and seeing. I believe that it will also be on a free-to-play model.
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