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#1 Nov 05 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Default
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Just curious..... I still play a lot and love it.

Edited, Nov 5th 2010 2:02pm by tmproff
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#2 Nov 05 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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tmproff wrote:
Just curious.....



You?
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#3 Nov 05 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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tmproff wrote:
Just curious.....


How many whiners have come here and made posts whining about people who have quit coming here and whining?

Just curious....
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#4 Nov 05 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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This is the downside to fansites. Not consistantly hedged.......

All in all, if you have a look around, its the same people mainly being loud about thier distaste with the current product.
#5 Nov 05 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
tmproff wrote:
Just curious.....


How many whiners have come here and made posts whining about people who have quit coming here and whining?

Just curious....


How many whiners have come here and made posts whining about people whining about people who have quit coming here and whining?

Just curious....
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#6tmproff, Posted: Nov 05 2010 at 12:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow, I think I found them all :)
#7 Nov 05 2010 at 12:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Taemek wrote:
This is the downside to fansites. Not consistantly hedged.......

All in all, if you have a look around, its the same people mainly being loud about thier distaste with the current product.

Especially fan sites for a game that has no official forums people could post their complaints/concerns. This will be where the discussions are both positive and negative (though mostly negative right now).

Edited, Nov 5th 2010 2:12pm by MrTalos
#8 Nov 05 2010 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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I would not call myself a whiner. More Like a frustrated gamer dissatisfied with SE and thier recent games, as well as with 14.


So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours.Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'
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#9 Nov 05 2010 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours. Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
my opinion counts


No.

Also, when do all the complainers get sick of complaining? Isn't it tiresome to re-write the same thing over.. and over.. and over again? Especially AFTER you've left.. and you have no real investment in the game anymore?
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#10 Nov 05 2010 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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We stop complaining when the game we were promised arrives. Pretty simply really.
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#11 Nov 05 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.


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#12 Nov 05 2010 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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We stop complaining when the game we were promised arrives. Pretty simply really.


lol.. entitlement thats awesome....
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#13 Nov 05 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
^ lol (^^)b
#14 Nov 05 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
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Simool wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.




630.000 person bought FFXIV according to the official numbers (posted in another thread here)

Do you see even 10% of that online? in my server it's rare to find +1000 player online and that's when the game is STILL free with no monthly fees, Majority did not like the game and left

By Nov30 (When SE start charging money) there will be 2 people playing the game
#15 Nov 05 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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MaverickBG wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
We stop complaining when the game we were promised arrives. Pretty simply really.


lol.. entitlement thats awesome....


When money has changed hands and promises are made, you bet your sweet a$$ I feel entitled. And a lot of other people do as well, rightfully so.
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SephNex wrote:
Simool wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.




630.000 person bought FFXIV according to the official numbers (posted in another thread here)

Do you see even 10% of that online? in my server it's rare to find +1000 player online and that's when the game is STILL free with no monthly fees, Majority did not like the game and left

By Nov30 (When SE start charging money) there will be 2 people playing the game



crap only 630 were sold outta the 630,000 shipped?
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SephNex wrote:
Simool wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.




630.000 person bought FFXIV according to the official numbers (posted in another thread here)

Do you see even 10% of that online? in my server it's rare to find +1000 player online and that's when the game is STILL free with no monthly fees, Majority did not like the game and left

By Nov30 (When SE start charging money) there will be 2 people playing the game


630,000 shipped not sold. Take out every copy sitting at walmart, gamestop, best buy, amazon's warehouse, returned to SE etc, thats the number actually sold to potential players.
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#18 Nov 05 2010 at 2:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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SephNex wrote:
Simool wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.




630.000 person bought FFXIV according to the official numbers (posted in another thread here)

Do you see even 10% of that online? in my server it's rare to find +1000 player online and that's when the game is STILL free with no monthly fees, Majority did not like the game and left

By Nov30 (When SE start charging money) there will be 2 people playing the game


I'm not disputing the numbers...I'm actually enhancing them a bit. I am just saying its possible to both enjoy the game and believe the game was released too early. There is no need to pile on by stating those still playing think the game is in good shape. I think that number may be the 2 you are referencing.
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#19 Nov 05 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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MaverickBG wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours. Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
my opinion counts


No.

Also, when do all the complainers get sick of complaining? Isn't it tiresome to re-write the same thing over.. and over.. and over again? Especially AFTER you've left.. and you have no real investment in the game anymore?


Hmmm...
No real investment = years of waiting for Rapture and spending time searching out forums everywhere who might have new info maybe once every 3 months, months in the alpha/beta (totally wasted imo because they didnt want or listen to any feedback), over $1k investment in upgrading my pc (which I'll admit I didnt need to do except for the game, but I had to scramble to get it ready for the release), ordering the CE.
A lot of people did this. We figured SE's years of experience with FFXI would count for something, that they'd blow us out of the water with a first-rate game. Instead we received an unfinished, unpolished square wheel.

Our opinions..ALL of our opinions count. Without our whining/******************** SE would do nothing to fix the sad shape this game is in. My complaint took the form of canceling my account 3 weeks after release because I felt that continuing to play was just enabling SE to think they did good.
You control the mouse in your hand, you arent being forced to read every single post in the forums.
Alla is an official SE fansite. Where better than to express our opinions, good and bad?

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#20 Nov 05 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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hexaemeron wrote:
MaverickBG wrote:
hexaemeron wrote:
We stop complaining when the game we were promised arrives. Pretty simply really.


lol.. entitlement thats awesome....


When money has changed hands and promises are made, you bet your sweet a$$ I feel entitled. And a lot of other people do as well, rightfully so.


I'm ****** off as much as anyone...but I don't find being negative in an open forum a way to help the situation. I spent a couple grand getting ready for this game. If anyone is entitled it should be me.

Maybe its just a maturity thing. Maybe in my younger years I'd want to lash out more. I don't know. But it sure is depressing seeing people pile on when whats been said has been said and SE knows the issues and is working on them.
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#21 Nov 05 2010 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I am still playing, but also still come here to complain.
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#22 Nov 05 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I quit this past weekend but I'm still going to come here to read about what's going on with the game so I know when to start playing again, and of course laugh at all the nerd rage from both sides.
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#23 Nov 05 2010 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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If everyone stopped complaining, would SE think everything is fine now and go back to fudging up games as per norm making video games that we play how they want?
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#24 Nov 06 2010 at 2:36 AM Rating: Good
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MaverickBG wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours. Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
So ya I guess i should have just left this site but then again my opinion counts here as much as yours.


BriktheImmortal wrote:
my opinion counts


No.

Also, when do all the complainers get sick of complaining? Isn't it tiresome to re-write the same thing over.. and over.. and over again? Especially AFTER you've left.. and you have no real investment in the game anymore?




Actually .... I built a new pc when i did not need to, and purchased the game, all less than 2 months or so ago? Ya I feel i have the right to point out the obvious.

Comments to the people actually speaking the truth reminds me of when ff11 talked about wow and makes me wonder if i was one of those guys now.

Also if your still playing the game and planning on paying for it after the freebie session is over then your Obviously enjoying it.

I find it ridiculous that the people that left ( most of the people that bought the game) are flamed on for stating facts about a bad, poorly designed, and broken game by people who absolutely agree with every flaw and defect they state, but then go on to say the game is fun O.o
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I find it ridiculous that the people that left ( most of the people that bought the game) are flamed on for stating facts about a bad, poorly designed, and broken game by people who absolutely agree with every flaw and defect they state, but then go on to say the game is fun O.o


It isn't that people say it. It's that they won't stop saying it like they're on some kind of honorable crusade to open the eyes of the blind and nonbelievers to the "truth" of the game's flaws.

It's silly because if they quit, what the **** do they care how the game is doing if they have no intention on coming back? If you aren't playing the game anymore what the **** benefit is there in coming back to the forums time and time again, rehashing the same tired ******** everyone already knows about? If people really find the game that bad to the point of quitting, why can't they go find something else to do instead of sitting here and repeating themselves? It's borderline trollish behavior even if they aren't trying to troll.

In fact, you know what this is like? Landing a job with a popular retail company, but coming to find the job sucks so you quit. Instead of finding a different or better job or doing anything else more productive, you come back to the same store day after day and stand outside telling the customers and employees how much you hated the job and how much it sucks. The only thing it accomplishes is making you look like a jackass.

If you're sitting back and waiting for the game to improve you can do that without making yourself look like a troll. If you don't plan on coming back drop your strange attachment to that which you hate and go find something you actually enjoy so you can stop looking like a troll.
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#26 Nov 06 2010 at 7:45 AM Rating: Default
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Simool wrote:
BriktheImmortal wrote:
Your the small percentage that is still enjoying the game. We are the larger Percentage that has said' ya this is not ready to be released'


The way you say that implies anyone who is enjoying the game believes the game was released without issues. That cannot be further than the truth. And how do you quantify "enjoying"? If most still playing the game are enjoying it(still needs to be quantified), wouldn't that constitute a high percentage? And if you say "We" and most of those that you call "We" are still playing the game, and those "We" feel the game was not ready to be released...how can the "We" be a small percentage. I know I am a "We"...as I am enjoying the incomplete game that was released too early that will be fixed sometime.

These general assumptions are getting old. Let it go.




Funny that isn't it. "I am allowed my opinion", yes you are but your spamming a public forum which is used by all sorts of people who want "general" chat. This is not the "complain, cry, moan" forum.

I have yet to see a valid answer as to why people create more new threads complaining about a game that "EVERYONE" knows was a bad release.

Simple fact is:
It is playable
It is buggy/laggy/missing things
SE is aware of it
SE has two large patches coming to fix 95% of concerns
SE listened to the reviews
Complaining about it any more is useless
We know what everyones opinions are
Creating new threads for same old complaints is useless
Its not just FF Fan boys that are sick of seeing the same old threads
Old posters have given up posting because of these same old crappy threads

This forum is for general chat not to complain, moan, cry and have a hissy fit/tantrum while you toss your toys out of your push chair about the same old things.
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#27 Nov 06 2010 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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It isn't that people say it. It's that they won't stop saying it like they're on some kind of honorable crusade to open the eyes of the blind and nonbelievers to the "truth" of the game's flaws.


And whats even more stupid is the fact that the so called "Non believers" don't exist. Everyone knows the bad things about the game and they have chosen to stay playing the game. So what? people who love the game are "tolerating" the flaws, others like me are semi afk from it. Other people will come back in 6 months, some even later while others have totally quit.

As I said in all my posts, I dont get why people are saying complaints which we all know exist.
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