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#1 Nov 06 2010 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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OK, so I am trying to help a friend who has a 37" Emerson 720P TV get all setup and working. He hooked up everything tonight, got his desktop resolution perfect at 1216 X 680. I told him he needed to ensure in the FFXIV Config utility that the resolution needed to match his desktop.

Issue: In the resolution drop down within FFXIV config, there is no option for this resolution. All resolutions are different which causes his screen to go off the X & Y axis.

Given that his isn't even an option, I'm sure you could alter the core config file (if I knew where it was) to add that resolution as an option.

Anyone know how to do this? Anyone else have this problem and know how to solve it?

Thanks in advance!
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#2 Nov 06 2010 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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720p resolution is the same as 1280x720, not 1212x680.

The television is overscanning which is to say enlarging the input image by ~5%. This is a carry over from old analog broadcasting.
You need to turn overscan off, but cheaper TVs do not always give the consumer the ability to control this. Some TVs list it as image size +/-, others magnification.
#3 Nov 06 2010 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Every TV that I have seen hooked up to a desktop via HDMI never displayed properly at the standard resolutions of 720P & 1080P. 720P is 1280 X 720, however, when he selects that option it's over extended his view. Same thing happened on my 1080P Samsung, I had to scale it down to 1852 X (something) in order for it fit perfect.

The issue in this case, is that what works perfectly for his desktop, isn't an option in the drop down menu within FFXIV Config.
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#4 Nov 06 2010 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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KnocturnalOne wrote:
Every TV that I have seen hooked up to a desktop via HDMI never displayed properly at the standard resolutions of 720P & 1080P. 720P is 1280 X 720, however, when he selects that option it's over extended his view. Same thing happened on my 1080P Samsung, I had to scale it down to 1852 X (something) in order for it fit perfect.

The issue in this case, is that what works perfectly for his desktop, isn't an option in the drop down menu within FFXIV Config.


Yes, it is 5% larger than the viewing area. It is called overscan and reread my previous post.
#5 Nov 06 2010 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you are still missing my point. On the contrary, I will have him check to see if it's an option, but ive never seen that option listed on new LCD HDTVs.

To restate, his normal desktop, web browsing, all that FITS perfectly in his window, but XIV does not, and it's because the XIV Config option doesn't allow him to select the resolution his desktop is set at.

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#6 Nov 06 2010 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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It's a custom resolution. Windows will handle it fine usually. Many games do not. Like Pocketed said, it's overscan, still included from ancient times.

I remember back when games didn't support widescreen resolutions at all, only 4:3.
#7 Nov 06 2010 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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So, any tips on how to get around it? Is there any way I can mod the config file and add an entry for that resolution?
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#8 Nov 07 2010 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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KnocturnalOne wrote:
So, any tips on how to get around it? Is there any way I can mod the config file and add an entry for that resolution?


The television itself likely has a setting called either "just scan and move" or "wide" or "fit to screen". Set it to that and set it to 1280x720 for everything including the windows desktop.
#9 Nov 25 2010 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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haydyn323 wrote:
KnocturnalOne wrote:
So, any tips on how to get around it? Is there any way I can mod the config file and add an entry for that resolution?


The television itself likely has a setting called either "just scan and move" or "wide" or "fit to screen". Set it to that and set it to 1280x720 for everything including the windows desktop.


I've having this same Overscan problem. I'm playing on a 37" Magnavox. I've looked through every option in the menu and see nothing about Overscanning to turn it off. In my settings, all I can change is from Widescreen to Automatic (all other options are greyed out when on my PCs channel).

Is there any way to change options on the PC to decrease the size of it's screen to counter the Overscanning? No matter what resolutions I pick the edges of the windows are still just off the screen. If I could just manually adjust them somehow...
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#10 Nov 25 2010 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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If you have a Nvidia video card there is an option in the Nvidia tools to resize your deskstop.
#11 Nov 25 2010 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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c2alston wrote:
If you have a Nvidia video card there is an option in the Nvidia tools to resize your deskstop.


Indeed I do, I'll try in there. Thanks! Also, thanks for taking the time to sign up so you could answer me!

pt 2

Woo! It worked! Now I can see my whole screen. Thanks again. No idea why I didn't think to go to that config. It was the first freaking option there!

Edited, Nov 25th 2010 3:10pm by AshlarThePaladin
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#12 Nov 25 2010 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Have him try 800 x 600 for now
#13 Nov 25 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Every "720p" LCD HDTV that I have seen actually uses a 1360x768 LCD panel. Some will accept a native resolution signal but many will only accept 1280x720 (which gets scaled up) and 1920x1080 (which gets scaled down). Many 720p TVs also don't have a "do not overscan" setting, although almost all 1080p HDTVs have this.

Also, ATI cards by default will scale the image down by 5% when they detect that they are connected to an HDTV and you have to go into the driver control panel to set image scaling to 0.

Edited, Nov 25th 2010 6:28pm by Lobivopis
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Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#14 Nov 25 2010 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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KnocturnalOne wrote:
Same thing happened on my 1080P Samsung, I had to scale it down to 1852 X (something) in order for it fit perfect


On Samsung HDTVs go into the "Picture" menu and set "Size" to "Just scan" and problem fixed.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#15 Nov 25 2010 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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ispanolfw wrote:
It's a custom resolution. Windows will handle it fine usually. Many games do not. Like Pocketed said, it's overscan, still included from ancient times.


Broadcasters still sometimes transmit data in the overscanned area of a broadcast image.
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Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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