People keeps comparing FFXIV to FFXI. Saying it has lots of content, things, more fun, quests, etc. Guess what? Took it 8 years to be like that.
As someone who picked up FFXI on the North American release day, I disagree with that statement. At the NA launch FFXI was in a more polished and more complete state than FFXIV.
I can appreciate what you're trying to do with this thread, to balance things out against the negativity, but it is not our job as the playerbase to defend the game for SE. The game will be defended by SE's own actions as they fix the current problems. Our job as the playerbase is to merely play the game.
Edit - I haven't read anyone arguing that FFXIV should be in the same state as FFXI is now after 8 years. The comparisons I've read have been about FFXIV release vs FFXI release. Obviously if you compare a game that's been out for 8 years its going to be in better shape than one that has been out for 2 months. Edited, Nov 8th 2010 5:47pm by theweenie
Yes FFXI was in a more polished state in NA release GUESS @#%^ING WHAT IT HAD 18 @#%^ING MONTHS IN JAPAN TO GET IN THAT @#%^ING WAY this game was release world wide at the same @#%^ing time.
Find out what ffxi was like at the Japanese release and you could be shocked, the clue for how long the game had in Japan is that at the NA release IT HAD A @#%^ING EXPANSION OUT, you are the kind of person that make americans look stupid.
This release was alot better than the JP release of xi, partly because from what i have read in xi's JP release THE @#%^ING SERVERS KEPT CRASHING.
Oh and I have done the research for you, took about 5 secs ffxi Patch notes for release
So stop saying "but ffxi was more polished at NA release" because it had 18 @#%^ing months to get to that state
Adding profane adjectives in front of every noun.. doesn't exactly increase your credibility :|
I dong give a @#%^ about that i'm just sick of people that think they know what they are talking about and when they dont, the post i quoted got me so ******* btw i swear alot when ppl **** me off
btw I do know the game has problems now but do you see me flaming it? no I just sit back let SE do their thing whilst giving them feedback and i do admit i do flame the flamers, constantly posting "omg this game sucks, omg this game has no content" guess what we have seen em somewhere before, where was it? oh yeah one every single general forum about ffxiv.
Give it a break, go get laid and come back in a few months when they fixed things, you cant fix a MMO overnight it takes time. Edited, Nov 9th 2010 4:55pm by scrish
The feed back phase is over.. Every single feed back now is just a reiteration of every problem since beta.. That's why people are raging, and that is why people are flaming.. if everything was taken care of by SE in the last several months of beta.. People will praise SE for trying so very hard to make a decent game.. Instead SE has done the opposite.. they have fixed nothing noticeable..
Every problem in beta is a problem now..
Square Enix use to be active and take every possible problem and fix it with noticeable results.. what we have seen in recent months is just laziness.. and do you feed lazy people? NO
The same reason I don't donate to people on the streets who are perfectly able to go to work or even attempt to apply at McDonalds.. I don't share sympathy to those that can do.. but choose not to... I do share sympathy for indie developers though, that is why I buy 100% of my indie games without prior testing.. it's simply because they deserve it for attempting a risky business... Can't say the same about most if not all of the big name brands (other than bioware because they just owns.. BIOWARE is king of the developers hands down)... I am a player that plays the demo if no demo exists I pirate to test.. if the game fails I don't buy it.. and the stupid lazy dev's get zero dollars for me.. It really is that simple..
If you are assuming I pirate most of my games, drop the accusations.. do you really want me to pull up my 100+ game steam account? Edited, Nov 9th 2010 5:15pm by nick2412
I know the feedback has probably already been mentioned to SE what I am trying to say is the differance between me and ppl that are flaming the game is that i am trying to get them to change things to improve the game.
More feedback (in the right places ie. Feedback forums and feedback forms on SE website, will make them change things, take this extreme example 1 person uses SE's feedback form to say somthing needs changing, but 10 million ppl (I said extreme example) flame the game in general forums which SE prolly dont check. What do you think they will do, they are aware of 1 person having a problem.
SE dont want to pay people to check through general forums which could have pages of people saying "help me out" or "looking for ls on x server" (btw the usual reply to the latter is "post in server forums")they want to pay ppl to go through forums that will have the relevent info.
Another example when you go shopping do you go to a shop that sells say bathrooms hoping that they will sell kitchens as well? I would say no, if you want a kitchen you would prolly go somwhere that advertise kitchens, its the same with SE
Use this forum for specific feedback and suggestions to the developer, not the players. This forum will be monitored by the game developers. To keep out general discussion and keep the true feedback from scrolling too quickly, it will be more heavily moderated than our other forums.
Thats from the feedback forum btw so that is advertised as feedback to the developers so they would go there to check for feedback not a general forum thinking theres a chance there will be feedback.
SE, and all companies that take constructive critisism do what the majority want so the more people that give feedback (not flaming the general forums) will make them change things faster even if they have heard them millions of times.
I would put money on it that 99% of the flamers havent posted any feedback they just expect things to change.
So the point of this post is to say no matter how much SE have heard the same feedback there is no such thing as too much, the more feedback about a certain issue means they should fix it faster, flamers are just trying to make the game fail.
PS sorry bout the long post, I can talk alot sometimes