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#1 Nov 08 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Good
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Is there a general rule of thumb for what the minimum rank is for repairing a particular item? Do you have to be within a certain amount of ranks from the rank needed to actually synthesize the item itself, or does it have to do with the rank of the repair material?
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#2 Nov 08 2010 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I think is -10 ranks under the item rank. Like a sword rank 25, can be repaired from a class rank 15.
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#3 Nov 08 2010 at 6:07 PM Rating: Excellent
I was unable to attempt to repair my Copper Choker at Goldsmith level 3. Was able to repair it at level 4, however. It's supposed to be a rank 3 GS synth.
#4 Nov 08 2010 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I was unable to attempt to repair my Copper Choker at Goldsmith level 3. Was able to repair it at level 4, however. It's supposed to be a rank 3 GS synth.

It's the rank of the item, not the recipe.
#5 Nov 08 2010 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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SO, since the item rank is 9, and was able to repair at 4, its 5 ranks difference for an accesory, so maybe for accesories is -5 ranks under the accesory rank, and -10 ranks for weapons and armor? I know is -10, cause I started repairing my brass knuckles, rank 23, when I had goldsmith 13.
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#6 Nov 08 2010 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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It is 10 levels under item level, no matter if it is a weapon, armour or ornament. Sometimes you just need several tries. I know how annoying it can be but at the moment this is the way it is.

If the item is +1 you need to be 5 levels or less under item level, +2 means item level and +3 probably 5 levels above item level.
#7 Nov 08 2010 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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I think having an absoulute number for the ability to repair is somewhat odd and ... dumb.

I would like to see a percentage of minimum ranks, for example like item X which has optimum rank of 20, and can be repaired when you are within 70% of the rank, meaning you can repair item X at rank 14.

The reason I say this is that, while it might be easy and fun to easily repair items into the 20s, it gets increasingly harder. leveling crafting job to 10 can be done in literally 2 days, but the rank 30 to rank 40 stretch may take 2 weeks with considerable dedication.

What I am trying to say is that 10 levels between 0-10 requires so much different rank points compared to 10 levels between 40-50. Why would they just slab a number 10 in there and pretend this absolute 10 is the same?

Why wouldn't a percentage work more fairly?

And going to Osarion's observation, I think the recipe levels are a little strange as well. You can make the whole thing from scratch, but you can't repair a little blemish? that's so incredibly unintuitive.

Edited, Nov 8th 2010 11:25pm by triangold
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#8 Nov 08 2010 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
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Unfortunately, I am obligated to put a dent in the "10 ranks under optimal rank" theory.

I have a Bronze Chain Coif that is level 27.
My Armorsmithing rank is 15.
I am still able to not only try and repair it without being told to be a higher level, but do so successfully.

So with that in mind, it could mean one of two things:
-You must be either within 10 ranks from the item's craft rank or the optimal wearing rank (the coif is actually a rank 10 craft).
-Something else entirely.
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#9 Nov 08 2010 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Lets just wait for a "ask the devs" about repairing in the lodestone :P
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#10 Nov 08 2010 at 11:30 PM Rating: Good
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I was unable to attempt to repair my Copper Choker at Goldsmith level 3. Was able to repair it at level 4, however. It's supposed to be a rank 3 GS synth.


Sounds like it was +1.
#11 Nov 09 2010 at 2:29 AM Rating: Default
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ResidentLune wrote:
Unfortunately, I am obligated to put a dent in the "10 ranks under optimal rank" theory.

I have a Bronze Chain Coif that is level 27.
My Armorsmithing rank is 15.
I am still able to not only try and repair it without being told to be a higher level, but do so successfully.

So with that in mind, it could mean one of two things:
-You must be either within 10 ranks from the item's craft rank or the optimal wearing rank (the coif is actually a rank 10 craft).
-Something else entirely.


i was unable to repair this at 14 when i started to make them, so that theory is shot
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#12 Nov 09 2010 at 7:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Silly question: How would you repair a lvl50 +3 item? Do these even exist or would you have to vendor repair it since you cannot become rank65 crafter (yet)...
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#13 Nov 09 2010 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Do what I am doing get your Craft ranks to 10 :)
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#14 Nov 11 2010 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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i think we are saying item -10 of optimal rank not +10~+15 of repair item.
So i suppose u r saying r45 crafter to repair r50 optimal item.
#15 Nov 11 2010 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good
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it's -10 ranks from the OPTIMAL rank, not the rank it takes to make the item.

So look at Walnut Spinning Wheel, R27. It takes a R17 carpenter to repair it, however it takes a R40+ Carpenter to make it.
#16 Nov 11 2010 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Meowshi wrote:
it's -10 ranks from the OPTIMAL rank, not the rank it takes to make the item.

So look at Walnut Spinning Wheel, R27. It takes a R17 carpenter to repair it, however it takes a R40+ Carpenter to make it.


Exactly what i trying to say too... lolz~
#17 Nov 11 2010 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Well so far it's confirmed that it's -10 from the -Optimal Rank-. I was at 14 carp and I could repair the Plumed Willow Shortbow, which was Optimal Rank 24.
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#18 Nov 12 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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To the person with the Bronze Coif comment, I can now repair the whole Bronze chain set at 17 armorsmithing. So it seems to be the items opitmual rank -10 for when you can start repairing them. At least so far.. more testing to come.
#19 Nov 12 2010 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Lineerlay wrote:
It is 10 levels under item level, no matter if it is a weapon, armour or ornament. Sometimes you just need several tries. I know how annoying it can be but at the moment this is the way it is.

If the item is +1 you need to be 5 levels or less under item level, +2 means item level and +3 probably 5 levels above item level.



I tried to repair an iron head-knife (optimal rank 32 from memory) while lvl 23 smith (again from memory, only thing I remmember clearly is that I was thinking I should be able to do it since I was less than 10 lvl below the optimal rank for the knife, after reading your statement) and it didn't work so I don't think it is that simple...

edit before anybody says it: it was an NQ knife, not HQ.

Edited, Nov 12th 2010 1:38am by Anurid
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