The SP bonus is granted if the entire PT is within +-5 levels of eachother.
You receive A bigger bonus for the more people you have that are within a +-5 rank range. so 15 members gets a bigger bonus than a group of 10.
If a single person falls outside that +- 5 rank range the entire groups bonus goes away. However, you don't get a penalty for partying over playing solo. You gain SP at the base rate (solo rate)
I'm nearly positive that that's not correct. I've noticed on multiple occasions when Sp'ing on Efts and other mobs with small and large groups that the bonus gets bigger and bigger the more people you have in the party. When you have 14 people versus 4 people on the same mobs, you can notice a huge difference in the skillups you get. I've been in situations where I've had 10+ people in the group all within 5 levels, then had another join making it a 6 level gap... If the entire party bonus was removed as soon as this person joined, it'd DEFINITELY be noticeable.
What information or scenarios have you been in that led you to believe what you're claiming?
He has no evidence, he's just regurgitating the erroneous mistranslation off lodestone (which unfortunately) is the case with most people. It is patently false that 1 (or multiple) players out of a 5 level range negates the SP bonus.
There is also no evidence that you maintain a SP bonus when you have someone outside the +- rank gap, as well as no evidence supporting SP bonus for people within your rank range.
The SP-PT bonus is either: increased SP/hit or increased proc rate.
THe amount of SP you gain from my experience is calculated by the amount of dmg you do. More dmg = higher SP. Therefor skewer II will result in more SP than light thrust, or why heavy thrust results in 2 SP gains 1) SP for dmg (low SP gain) and 2) SP for bind effect (higher SP gain).
Fighting Efts I think is a poor example. THese mobs are grinded on by rank ~25-30 players, the Efts themselves I believe are ~rank 40-45? At least thats what I've been told. The mobs themselves are higher than the players rank. you will receive excellent - decent SP 25-30 purely based on the rank difference. So seeign a difference when a lower rank player joins thats outside of the +-5 is hard to notice.
If you fight mobs that are closer to the groups rank range (turns blue with 4-5 members) and you have a member join thats outside of the +- rank range and you'll see your overall SP/mob go down.
It's purely a judgement call on the PT's part fight mobs that are far above the rank of the part (turns blue with 10+ people) and gain high SP/mob because of 1) length of battle and 2) rank differnce between player mob resulting in increaed SP gain.
or fighting things that are closer to the PT rank range and gettign less SP/mob but faster fights in a smaller PT where if you have someone fall outside that +- range you feel the effect of the no SP bonus more.
I honestly think people are makign too big of a deal of teh SP bonus granted. I don't think overall you gain that much of a bonus for having all members within +- ranks of eachother. The way SP is gained is so random that it's hard to say definite oneway or another.
But from my experience:
fighting monster close to your PT rank range with a person outside the +- rank range results in less SP/mob (no bonus)
fighting monsters close to you PT's rank range with everyone within the +- rank range result in more SP/mob (has bonus)
fighting monsters high above your PTs rank range with a person outside the +- rank range results in high SP/mob (no bonus)
fighting monsters high above your PT rank range with everyone within the +- rank range results in high SP/mob (has bonus)
How did I come to this conclusion?
I was in a 6 man PT fighting Yarzon in mistbeard all member within 3 ranks of each other, all gaining 250-400 SP a fight. Sometimes higher sometimes lower
I change to rank 11 thurm and have everyone say SP gained after each fight for 10 fights SP went down do 100-300 SP a fight. Sometimes higher sometimes lower.
I was ina 15 man PT fighitng Black Efts everyone gaining 250-500 SP a fight
I change to rank 11 thrum and everyone gains 250-500 SP a fight
Can I say definitively that adding someone outside the +- rank range drops SP bonus for all members? No. But from my observations of the test I did It seems when in a smaller PT the rank difference comes into more play because the mobs are closer to the PT rank range than the monster fought while in 15 man PT.
Now tell me your findings with SP rates of PT that are all within +- 5 of eachother in a small PT and in a large PT then what it's like when someone is outside the +- 5 rank range.
So my "regurgitating the erroneous" information is a result of what I've experienced in game, and it just happens to reflect the information on the loadestone. Edited, Nov 10th 2010 4:57pm by SevenLittleChipmunks