Oh lawdy. I haven't been to BG since release, but I was active there for quite a while. If it's anything at all like it used to be, BG will eat OP alive.
I come from PvP and FPS forums and tbh, I am just sick of the smack talk, I have no patience for it anymore like I used too. Problem here though is it's not smack talk, it's simply downright abuse of free speech. Which by the way has nothing to do with the rating system, what so ever.
Ok, I'm just going to come out and say this. I am not really one to take notice of people's names. In fact, never in my history of posting here have I even used the handy feature that puts "So and so wrote" in the quotes. I generally just respond to what was said without any regard to who said it. So if I took note of your name, it was either because of something particularly good, or particularly bad. There are a few exceptions to the regulars, and by that I mean people I've seen around zam for a couple of years or so.
Taemek and HallieXIV are names that I have noted for not being intelligible or constructive posts. I absolutely will not give someone a hard time or even a ratedown for liking and defending the game. The simple fact that I recognize your names indicates to me that you've been habitually making posts that are rude or plain asinine, and even though some people have been downrated unfairly lately, I don't think your lack of scholar status can be attributed solely to trolls and haters.
You may want to do some back ground checks on your assumption there. I used to be a Zam premium member for years until I stopped playing Everquest 1 & 2.
Plain asinine you say? So, sharing my ingame experiences that are succesful for me (not only on one game, but across multiple MMORPG's) with other people hoping it helps them maybe improve thier gameplay and morale towards the game by using them as suggestions on how they might be able to improve themselves is plain asinine? Hmmmm, maybe you should read the context of a post before assuming things I would dare say.
The issue in this part of your post is you forgot to mention that when someone thinks they are right, no matter how well your word anything, they are going to think they are right and nothing you write will change that and your going to be taken offensively OR moronic and plain asinine because we simply don't share the same opinion, point of view OR experience ingame. This is called a difference in opinion, it's what makes us all unique and different, special if you will, without the ed. 8- )
So this is not intended to be a personal attack, flame, or anything of the sort. This is just a friendly suggestion that maybe for some of you, it's not the site or the community, but the way you come across. I know it seems unfair that people on one side of the fence can rant and rave, while others are expected to disagree agreeably, but there you have it. Those people don't have to care about the community... they're already prepared to leave it. But you also have to notice that a lot of criticism has been fair and measured, and at worst hyperbolic or joking at the game's expense. People like myself who are highly displeased with the game but still want to discuss what exactly is wrong with it and see where it eventually goes... we're going to be around for a while. Several of us have been around for years, and this isn't the only forum on zam to visit. You don't have to agree with us, but save your disgust and contempt for the few people that go out of their way to be rude, not every person who vocally disagrees with you.
You can't simply tell us you have purposely *noted us for not being intelligible or constructive posts
* and then say, *this isn't intended to be a personal attack
*.....obviously, while your friendly suggesting that it may very well be our attitude towards some people, using it as a way to mask up the fact that you very well are, personally attacking us by singling us out, otherwise, you would of just used a generic saying *This is just a friendly suggestion that maybe some of you
.....* and not called or singled out anyone in particular.
The thing you fail to understand is, again, there is a huge difference between discussion and just pure ranting for the sake of malice and destruction towards something. Yes some of you are displeased, we get it, we have read the threads, over and over again, like a bunch of broken records, BUT it doesn't hurt to try new things that the people who enjoy the game, suggest trying. If this is somehow taken out of context on some level I cannot comprehend and seen as the way we *vocally come across
*, then I ask that people take a step back and re-read, closer between the lines or do you prepose we just submit to you because you for some reason think you are more superiour with your fancy speech and status that has yet to be knocked down like a title fight night. /queue rocky music.
Truth is Kachi, I don't know you nor do I truely care for you (just being honest), but I do know your types, word smiths with the act of looking intelligent without really reading the context of a post and skipping its whole meaning thinking it is nothing more then *plain asinine* because it doesn't agree with your opinion, period. Yes, if you haven't gathered by now, I take offence to what you said thus far and how you have said it without truely knowing what sort of person I am or my real meaning in my posts, hence the beginning of this thread to begin with in reguards to people who are not so constructive with their posts as you are, but with the exact same intent.
People in general are quick to judge in todays age, that much is known. This blankets peoples abilities to see things staring them in the face and they tend to look at the warts instead of the personality or expression within, which is what truely counts, my subtle but very vocal friend.
Some people (like Hyanmen there) have lost their scholar status because they defend unpopular positions frequently and catch **** for it. I've certainly done the same many times in the past. But most of you who aren't brand new posters and don't have Scholar status honestly haven't earned it. Scholar comes easy... the fact that I have it is proof of that. Entire forums have tried to take it away from me, but the fact that even a quarter of my posts were constructive has meant that my karma score (which you can't see these days) has barely budged an inch. Almost all of my criticism of the game has been civil, and the one's that were overly harsh were rated down. I have disagreed with many people about the game, and while neither of us were on the same side, we are both rated up. So clearly this is not such a community of haters.
I've never been a scholar so I fail to see the point of you beating your chest telling us how easy it is to get it or how you have fended of hordes of angry posters who have somehow not been able to karma bomb you, nor do I care for the rating system here because when things are left upto the community to police itself, well, we know how well the human race polices itself, dont we.
I agree, it would be easy to get scholar, I could easily jump into all the threads that are haters towards the current game design and flame away and get rated up, np. Then on the back foot, double back and goto all the ones saying good things and post good things in those and get rated up also, not hard at all.
Criticism and skepticism don't equate to whining, and some of the worst whiners have been the ones whining about all the whining... which hasn't been whining at all. People also aren't receptive to rude and condescending remarks regardless of which side you take. Keep these things in mind, and maybe reread your posts the next time you're about to hit the "Post Message" button.
I truely don't think we need a lesson from your behavioural psyhcology book in regards of how to interact with people over the internet when emotions or tones are not present.
People ethier have reading comprehension issues or they don't, period. Something I see lacking in alot of the younger generation these days. Maybe they should spend more time reading books then playing video games, it might just help them a little on how to percieve peoples tones and emotions via words instead of videos/VOIP programs instead.
If I have offended you in anyway or manner Kachi I am sorry, if I have taken you out of context in anyway Kachi, again, sorry. If I have misread anything you have said, again, sorry. After all, we are only human, correct? Handling constructive criticism has never been one of humanities strong suits, however, it is one of mine when rightfully required of me to do so, which is not one of these times I am afraid. Just being honest.
Yes, I double read and triple read this post before hitting submit. Edited, Nov 13th 2010 11:24pm by Taemek