Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Sorry, the "fair weather fan" thing doesn't fly, or we'd have been gone at release. This is most definitely NOT the "first sign of trouble" with FFXIV, or SE for that matter.
Edited, Nov 15th 2010 4:40pm by Zorvan
Technically speaking, the game is still in it's release state and according to most here, majority of you have left.
Technically speaking, the game has a few months to go before it is in its release state, and yet I've already paid $150 for two copies.
You can say that "no other MMORPG has ever extended its free trial period" but I'd have to counter with the fact that no other MMORPG has ever charged its players to play a game of beta quality. In terms of this game's features, it is still in beta in all aspects except that it is on shelves.
Vangaurd is the only one I can think of.
Most games truely aren't complete upon release, I am sure there is a mountain of things they would like to release thier titles with, but are simply limited to time.
It could be highly possible that SE was pressed for time, they took all your feedback in during Beta and the Nov/Dec patch will be the result of it. Seeing the customers that have unsubscribed from the product which thier Board of Directors would be keeping a close eye on, they chose to save face acknowledging there is an issue and publicly announce that they are looking into and here is a list that was generated that will be implemented.
The point is though, every game has a few game changing updates early on in the peace following release. I never beta tested FFXIV, so I can't relate, but it sounds like it is in the same state it was during its final Beta minutes to what it is now, which leads me into thinking that the coming updates are a fix for all the issues during beta. Maybe they didn't expect such negative feed back upon release and they would have a month or two to polish them up.
SE knew your feedback was going to be rehashed in public and they took a chance with it knowing that they had at least a month or two before mass exodus started to happen but also knowing that the PS3 release will top up the kitty.
I assure anyone reading thus far that when you are a company dealing with millions upon millions of potential dollars, there is always a plan A, plan B and plan C. I believe what we are seeing is plan A. Plan B will be the help the game gets from the release of the PS3 version and plan C, well, we don't want it to get there.
Question, if the overall FFXIV fan base had a majority of good things to say about the game in its current release, what do you think SE's attitude would be?
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
It's one thing to be a fan of a company and to be a loyal customer, but it's another entirely to start paying to continue beta testing a game, especially considering that the current situation is "We promise to fix it, but you'll have to cough up the cash for a month before you'll know if we did or not."
I thought the term was "try it before you buy it", not "buy it before you try it".
Thats why I am under the impression we got an extra 30 days free because they were still focusing on the feedback recieved during beta and polishing up. Limited on time again and running out of it fast, they give customers 30 days free, things calm down for a little while but players kept in the dark. 1 month later, news is released about changes at the end of Nov.
However, you do have a very valid point, the 30 days free is meant to be a try before you buy kind of deal. The basics of the game are still here though, that much is known and the changes are pretty much based of peoples experience from other MMO's and how they would play here with the suggestions and changes that they have taken into consideration, so in a sense, you can pretty much picture how it will play out.
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
I'm -trying- to -force- myself to enjoy the game, but I just can't. Whenever I log on, I feel like the life has been sucked out of me. I have been looking forward to this game for years, reserved two copies of the collector's edition for myself and my fiancee, and whenever either of us log on, we can't go five minutes without wanting to play something else. Anything else. Anything at all.
I want to -want- to play the game. I remember when I played XI; when I'd stay up as late as I could, and as soon as I got home from college, then later work, I would hop on FFXI and waste away 6-12 hours a day ON AVERAGE (sometimes 20+ on weekends) playing a game I -LOVED-.
I -want- that out of FFXIV but it's just not giving it to me. Not unlike FFXIII, I find myself -forcing- myself to play a game that I just can not get in to.
I think we all go through this once in our gaming lives, to try and find the next best thing compaired to that one epic moment in time where you felt that way about a game that you just couldn't stop playing or thinking about during some point of the day and come home time or end of the day for work, rushing home to play it.
The truth is, you will never find it, because I think we only get attached to a game like that once and then nothing else suffices. Everything is bland after time, things don't feel right. We turn around and are forever relating things that were great in our previous games and we try so hard to get people to get the point that in all your efforts, you know it most likely not going to happen.
The gaming genre has changed and not for the better I am afraid. Games today are pushed for release, they are strategically released within a certain timeframe of other releases/expasions from other MMORPG's to try and attempt to get some life out of thier subscribers and whats worse is, they release too many of them with at least 1 new MMORPG being released a year and peoples curiousity gets the better of them and they are for ever game hopping, like you and I, searching for that next best thing to what we had some much memorable moments in.
My posion was Everquest 1 & 2.
I truely have come to expect nothing from games these days, this way I have nothing to lose from my expectations being burnt down form getting myself worked up over the hype that is spun during release and beta. I don't even do much reading up on them and the only real thing I do now days is read the story line, if it appeals to me, I check it out, as you said, try it before you buy it. If I don't like it, on the back burner it goes. What this does it keeps me fresh, I don't get the feeling of being sucked dry from following it for years on end and being let down.
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
I'm not going to rage and throw my box in the trash. I'm not going to post some video to youtube of myself smashing my CDs... Barring some magical changes between now and the 22nd, I'm probably just going to let my free trial lapse, uninstall the game, and go back to playing other things.
I'll still be around here, talking about the game, talking to all you nice forum folk, hoping for the day when I see this board flooded with "OMG FFXIV is @#%^ing awesome!" because of how SE turned it around. Will that be in a month? Three months? Six months? A year? I don't know.
All I know is that I'll be back with my money once it is, and I'll be thrilled to play it, if they really have made it that much better. My only regret is that I don't know what day that will be so that I can mark it on my calendar.
Considering that FFXIII sold 5+ million copies, it safe to assume that when the PS3 version is released a massive wave of these players will be injected into this community. We can rule a certain percentage of these sales out to PC avid users.
The real question is, will they like it?
Only time will tell.