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#1 Nov 15 2010 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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Having played the game, now, a little over a month, not once has fatigue come into play.... that is until yesterday. I began to experience a vastly reduced XP per kill, but the SP is OK. Doesn't matter conjurer or thaum, the xp is definitely impacted.

When I craft, however, I still get crazy XP, over 1K per synth item.

So all this leads me to believe that I have hit a fatigue wall, to some degree, not sure how severe, and that in SE's current design, physical fatigue only comes into play for battles, not craft (which, incidently, this is not fair at all).

When I first started playing, I was all worried about the fatigue factor design . I asked in a # of different forums how can you tell, other than begin to notice a reduction in SP/XP (yes I viewed the video a # of times lol).

Here are some of the responses I got:

- your text (for that impacted - SP or XP) will show as yellow.
- you will get messages indicating your surplus is going into some sort of holding bucket (which you never get back as it's designed right now)
- if you go to menu, in the upper left corner, either your job or physical will show as yellow.

Anyhow, I see NONE of the above. Can someone please help me to better understand this.

Regards.
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#2 Nov 15 2010 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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The info you got on other forums was correct and some of your assumptions are wrong. Your SP/EXP will definitely be in yellow in the menu when you truly have fatigue/bonus experience. It will tell you in the chatlog when you earn experience as well. Physical fatigue shows up just the same for battle or crafting.

What you might be noticing is that soloing experience gets pretty bad from the awesome early ranks when you got mad SP & Experience for slaying marmots & rats. You have to seek out tougher mobs or join parties to get better numbers.

Also, it's far easier to rack up mass amounts of physical experience through crafting. That part I think you're right on, but you're not in fatigue if you aren't seeing those messages and a yellow exp bar in the menu.



Edited, Nov 15th 2010 7:07am by TwistedOwl
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#3 Nov 15 2010 at 6:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks alot for the clarification. Allow me just a few more specifics, if you'd be so kind, so I fully understand this, and won't have to bother the forums about this again.

In my text log, since day 1, the SP/XP has always appeared in a very mild/faded yellow, never a pure white. What you're saying is, when I'm truly fatigued, the text for the affected category will show in a more pronounced yellow?

When I go to my menu, in the upper left it shows:

Conjurer Rank zz nnn/xxx
Physical Level yy aaa/bbb

If I was truly fatigued, the affected line(s) would appear in yellow? Am I looking in the right place? If so, both are white, and the text in the chat log is showing the same, pale yellow, it always has, and not once have I see any notification about surplus.

I wonder if the dramatically reduced XP I'm noticing is because my physical has hit 30. Maybe I'm seeing some sort of hard ceiling in XP because of this? Again, I only see the drop off in battle, crafting XP is still insane.

My main is conjurer (R 20), but I've noticed this on thaum (R 14), which I'm leveling up for sub spells/abi's. My last solo against an orange arbor squirrel resulted in 79 XP / 231 SP. Yay for the SP but the XP just seems low compared to what I'm used to seeing.

I'm going to go out and gather a few sample data points and I'll come back and post the mean results XP vs. SP on yellow/orange mobs.

Thanks again for your time & patience in helping me understand this better.
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#4 Nov 15 2010 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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Correct about the menu part...
Quote:
Conjurer Rank zz nnn/xxx
Physical Level yy aaa/bbb

^That would be yellow

If I remember right, the chatlog message for experience will stay the same colors.

What you're seeing in regards to physical experience drops makes perfect sense. Be it a flaw from some perspectives or "working as intended" = P
You're physical rank 30, but fighting lower mobs to gain SP on various classes. So the physical experience takes a big hit. It's always pretty **** good for crafting especially if you're doing synths @ or a little above your rank. I'm working on physical level 50 currently and I barely get any physical experience from fighting. Even killing mobs that con red yields crap experience on my r22 CON & THM. So what you're seeing is right, but it's due to the system rather than hitting fatigue.

I went so far with my crafting early on, that's really my only good source to rely on for physical experience now. I would "guess" the closer your ranks are to your physical would allow for better physical experience. That's tough to do unless you only fight since you're always gaining physical experience.

Edited, Nov 15th 2010 8:25am by TwistedOwl
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#5 Nov 15 2010 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Awesome.. thanks for the detailed explanation. Maybe I just haven't noticed the gradual deterioration in XP, because 99% of my interest is in SP. Or maybe there is some hard ceiling that comes into play @ physical 30, and that's why I'm just now noticing the big hit. Up until yesterday, it seems that in all cases XP > SP, but now, it's dramatically the other way around.

You can bet I'm going to test this out with some LS friends, just to compare. lol. Anyhow, thanks again.
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#6 Nov 15 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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XP is shared by all classes. If you hit fatigued xp, you'll get a message every time you earn XP saying that you have received "bonus" xp. Crafters are typically the ones who see bonus xp before anyone else. For the first 3-4 weeks of service I was hitting bonus xp every Sunday or Monday like clockwork. If you're seeing a reduction in xp/kill, it's probably because your physical level has increased. XP from kills is based on physical level vs. mob rank. I haven't seen actual xp from a mob kill since about the second week of service because I did so much crafting and my physical level vastly outstripped my rank with any combat class very quickly.
#7 Nov 16 2010 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to put this issue to rest, you guys are absolutely, spot on. Thanks again for taking the time to clear this up for me. Regards.
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