Forum Settings
       
1 2 Next »
This Forum is Read Only

Has anyone actually went back and looked at WoW Graphics?Follow

#52 Nov 15 2010 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
***
1,606 posts
Irishclass777 wrote:
So what is the story of World of warcraft? What is the point of your character? How is our character impact the world? There is no story IN World of warcraft. there is story AROUND it. Its stupid that I need to look up a story just to understand what point in the time line my character is.

I think it all depends on how you play WoW or any other game. I went from FFXI to WoW to follow some of my friends and pretty much thought it was going to be a huge joke. I was raised with the whole lolWOW mentality and started off with that. Was more than a little surprised by the quality of some of the stories I did find there. The story is there but I found it wasn't nearly as obvious at times. Some of the best stories are in dungeons and depending who you are with, they can get overlooked because you're in there with guys/gals who are leveling up their 5th character to 80 and have already done it a thousand times and have no interest in waiting while you read a bunch of story related stuff. When I got a character to 80 I started doing lower level dungeons just for the story to them.
#53 Nov 15 2010 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
*****
11,539 posts
On a FFXI-related note, while I liked CoP's story best, I will say that something I really loved about ToAU and WotG was the split of "story CS" and battleground fight compared to CoP where your BG timer started ticking when the CS started, forcing many players to spam though the story (particularly on fights where time was a major factor) and miss it.
____________________________
[ffxisig]55836[/ffxisig]

Mikhalia: and FWIW, my posts are 95% helpful, informative, or funny.
Mikhalia: only 5% or less of my posts are utter crap.
Tyapex: 393 posts of utter crap...
Mikhalia: Sounds about right.
#54 Nov 16 2010 at 12:02 AM Rating: Excellent
***
2,202 posts
Irishclass777 wrote:
LockeColeMA wrote:
DomfranciscoOfIfrit wrote:
tmproff wrote:
I know that WoW has great gameplay and the story is good


If by "Good" you mean "Non-existant" then yes, the story is great.

Smiley: dubious
Several RL books, and three previous games beg to disagree with you. I can't say the storyline is amazing, but it is certainly not "non-existant."

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here. Several months ago I came to these boards looking for information on FFXIV. The thing that people were most able to say (keep in mind this was back in closed beta times) was that the game was gorgeous. It still is. Even with WoW's reworked graphics, it doesn't hold a candle to FFXIV. Heck, I just started playing Aion (to review it for the site) and even Aion outshines the new enhanced WoW graphics. I played FFXIII for 20 hours over a weekend at my friend's house, and I was blown away by the graphics. Say what you want about SE, they know graphics, and for FFXIV, they look beautiful.

That said, the best games I have played in the past few years?
1. Portal
2. Minecraft

Both of those games completely lack good graphics, but were without a doubt some of the best games I have ever gotten to fool around with.

I enjoy breath-taking graphics because I just stop and stare for a bit. But in the best games I have played, I prefer functional over flashy every single day of the week when it comes to looks.

So what is the story of World of warcraft? What is the point of your character? How is our character impact the world? There is no story IN World of warcraft. there is story AROUND it. Its stupid that I need to look up a story just to understand what point in the time line my character is.


To say there is no story in world of warcaft is just stupid and silly, as silly as saying that FFXIV is a sucess and has millions upon millions of subscribers.

You sound like the type of person that played and hated FFXII because of the gambit system(Wich was totally optional) because it played the game for you, wow is similar, it has a story, a backstory, and many side-stories Attached. Can you skip em? Sure, but is still there if that's what you are looking for :)
____________________________
MUTED
#55 Nov 16 2010 at 12:22 AM Rating: Good
**
568 posts
It's the design of the characters that has kept me away from WOW for all these years.

It's just not my thing. The actual trolls in that game with big ears are the real deal breaker for me. It's just personal preference nothing more.

And yes when seeing fire-imps for the first time I was a bit horrified but luckily the colour-scheme makes up for the generic medieval design it has.


I'm weird like that. Elf ears creep me out a bit too but at least they're not LOTR-looking elfs we see in Eorzea.
#56 Nov 16 2010 at 4:25 AM Rating: Default
*
73 posts
The story of WOW is , X famous lore character went crazy and turned evil , now go and kill them for phat lewt.

Iike WOW played it for 2 years , my issue with game tho was the community sucks, pple on there are boring , probably over half the poulation of the game dont do anything except do the dailies ( which are pointless) because there is Fok all to buy with gold.
Or they just level alts
PUGS are attrocious , I mean sometimes I wonder if I pug with bots because none of them speak or have any communication skills.
And I cant stand the gear progression or shallow crafting but other then that the game is amazing.

What I do like is the Great UI , lots of unique classes and trees, nice enviroments , everything is user friendly and I feel the graphics still work just fine.
____________________________
BLM-75 NIN 75 WAR 70
Odin
#57 Nov 16 2010 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
Other than your characters look a little too cartoony (I suppose that is where the name "toon" comes from.) for my tastes, WoW's graphics aren't all that bad. FFXIV's are amazing but not a huge deal to me, suppose I'm still stuck in the simplistic era.

Smiley: tongue

What gets me the most about FFXIV is how the scenery is more alive than previous games I've played. Trees actually sway, every so often you'll see a frog sitting on a rock from out of nowhere and next it's gone. Creatures even respond to your presence. Get near a marmot and it actually turns its head at you and runs away, some creatures will actually follow you (Dodo, Galago, etc.) when you move. No doubt you'll notice a big change going from FFXIV to something else, but by far it doesn't mean WoW's graphics are crap.
____________________________
FINAL FANTASY XIV Roleplayer

Sair Gammonari - Hyur Midlander Male - Conjurer (Somewhat retired.)
Mihana Zhralyia - Miqo'te Seeker of the Sun Female - Archer



#58 Nov 16 2010 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
***
2,010 posts
Quote:
The story of WOW is , X famous lore character went crazy and turned evil , now go and kill them for phat lewt.


Maybe, but it's still no different than just about any other game every made. In fact, I can sum up pretty much every FF story in the last decade by saying:

Previous hero of some sort goes mad and decides to take over the world, band of unlikely heroes rises up against him, lead male and lead female secretly are in love but it never gets revealed until the end and by that time it's a ******* relief, often lead male leaves anyway because he's incredibly emo and can't handle life.

There are four titles off the top of my head, all with Final Fantasy in their name, that follow that exact format. It's not like Square is any more creative than anyone else.

It's hard enough to keep interest in an MMO - once you do the story once you pretty much are done. It's no different in XI - everyone finished the stories. So now what? Grind for "phat lewt".

However, I don't think that folks should accuse WoW of being storyless just because they didn't stick around for it. Over the years the quality has improved, and they even have cinematics (Cutscenes, for us XI'ers)- such as the one when you finish all the quests the crazy warring dragons give you. Orcs and Humans vs Arthas in all his madness, and for some reason the Forsaken got a bug up their asses and just killed EVERYONE. Good cinematic, and interesting twist to the story. Then you get to see the queen of the dragons in her natural form, and she towers over even her consort. Biggggg dragon. Scary. Glad she's on our side.

So, folks please stop saying WoW doesn't have a story and doesn't have a point. It seems to me like you are just going by word-of-mouth from folks who kept their eyes glued to the QuestHelper arrow and didn't care about anything but "phat lewt".
#59tmproff, Posted: Nov 16 2010 at 8:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So you're saying that WoW sucked in the beginning and got better as time went on? Hmmm, what a great concept.
#60 Nov 16 2010 at 9:20 AM Rating: Default
**
588 posts
I Watched a buddy play wow last night and was like OMFG the graphics are way better now.

They did something with textures to make it look more colorfull and psycodelic.

Wow has the most pretty colors even if their models have fewer pixels then FFXIV (Supposidly)

Honestly FFXIV seems pretty crappy player model wise to me maybe because my expensive GTS450 with 1GB DDR5 can barely handle it at mid level settings. And on high settings where it does look good it plays in Extreeme slow motion. Wow never played at extreeme slow motion it always looked beautifull and always was crisp and colorfull no matter how amany explosions where happening on screen.

I would ahve to say Successfull Troll Successfull.

Edited, Nov 16th 2010 10:24am by cornyboob
____________________________


Cornyboob Funnyname Wutai Phys 50 Conj 49 Weaver 49 LW 34 Alch 28 Pug 22 Archer 20 Glad 19 Thaum 20 GS 11 Bot 9 Miner 8 Shield 44 Maur 3

#61 Nov 16 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Good
**
451 posts
While we're on the subject on going back and looking at old games graphics,

Has anyone gone and looked at the gfx in Everquest?... Or Super Mario Bros 1... Or Donkey Kong.. or Chrono Trigger..
#62 Nov 16 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Excellent
***
2,010 posts
tmproff wrote:

So you're saying that WoW sucked in the beginning and got better as time went on? Hmmm, what a great concept.


No, I'm just giving some examples of my own personal favorite stories. I happen to like anything and everything that has to do with dragons - mythical and ancient beings that take humanoid form and watch over the "lesser" races. It's a recurring theme in a lot of fantasy stories, and those stories just stick out in my mind. There's so many stories and so much lore in the games that you can go to any bookstore and find entire shelves worth of novels using the characters and lore of WoW.

I loved stories in FFXI as well - and that's my main point here. This thread was started to make a jab at WoW's graphics, it then morphed to jabs at WoW's stories, and the whole thread just really doesn't even belong here. I think the admins have left it alone because we have remained civil about it, but the fact is that the thread has nothing to do with a discussion about FFXIV and a few people just use it as an opportunity to talk trash about things they don't even know anything about.

I do believe that XIV will get better with time, but that doesn't mean I am going to sit here and bash other games to distract from XIV's failings.
#63 Nov 16 2010 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
***
1,755 posts
KacesofCaitsith wrote:
I'll take game play over graphics any day. This applies to everygame. Maybe it's a generation thing.


Fo sure this I play FFXI love the game and I play wow as well ffxiv is like dating a model without a brain or a heart and a soul just a pretty shell. I hope they fix it and can't wait to see the changes they have in store. After playing FFXI since 2003 I know how SE can be when talking changes and then smacks you back to reality..
____________________________
....::: All Jobs 99 but GEO and RUN :::....
Genbu [O] Suzaku [O] Seiryu [O] Byakko [O] Kirin [O] In Loving Memory of Kirin RIP 3/6/05
xXIEOSIXx Forums on Shiva



#64 Nov 16 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
10 posts
WoW doesn't have an overarching story where you are the main character but the individual quest lines and stories were always fun. Best example is the initial series of quests in westfall for the Deadmines. You quell their population followed by escorting a traitor into the city to find the entrance to the dungeon. Then talk to multiple npc's to find out why Van Cleef is doing what he's doing then go through the Deadmines themselves to the boat in the cave.

The whole dungeon is nicely scripted with mini events that aren't cut scenes, blowing the door with a cannon, killing the shredder mech goblin to open a door, etc. Was tons of fun. It's why I liked the dungeon designs vs ffxi because they had a boss, they had something to fight through to get to an end instead of sitting by a bunch of rolanberries and killing crawlers.
#65 Nov 16 2010 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
***
1,755 posts
I will say now that FFXI has gone to abyssea and basically killed the need for bots the game for me is 1000% better and more fun. Standing in Dragon avery waiting for the best bot to claim niddy use to make my blood crawl since I wasn't a botter and never would. Nothing like a level 1 char claiming a HNM to show you how bad it got.....

Wow is fun for me once you start the 25 man raiding in a good guild on vent took team work and precision to do the end game raids most never get that far that bash wow and that's where the game began for me....
____________________________
....::: All Jobs 99 but GEO and RUN :::....
Genbu [O] Suzaku [O] Seiryu [O] Byakko [O] Kirin [O] In Loving Memory of Kirin RIP 3/6/05
xXIEOSIXx Forums on Shiva



#66 Nov 16 2010 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
***
1,606 posts
cornyboob wrote:
I Watched a buddy play wow last night and was like OMFG the graphics are way better now.

I had initially believed it was because I had gotten a new video card but the water on max settings seems a lot prettier now. It's still the same cartoonesq designs but I think they are certainly leaps and bounds better than they were. The downside is they raised the system requirement some and a computer I had that I could play my second character on fine (relatively) before barely runs it now.
#67 Nov 16 2010 at 10:54 AM Rating: Excellent
10 posts
Lol, the makers of WOW were godly smart compared to FFXIV. They theorized that if they can scale the graphics just enough so that a majority of the computers can play then, then they could market WOW to a larger audience. Well it obviously worked with great success so who is the smart one, FFXIV or WOW?
#68 Nov 16 2010 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
***
1,755 posts
MrTalos wrote:
cornyboob wrote:
I Watched a buddy play wow last night and was like OMFG the graphics are way better now.

I had initially believed it was because I had gotten a new video card but the water on max settings seems a lot prettier now. It's still the same cartoonesq designs but I think they are certainly leaps and bounds better than they were. The downside is they raised the system requirement some and a computer I had that I could play my second character on fine (relatively) before barely runs it now.


Yeah if your system can handle it you can turn wows graphics up and they look great imho not on par with FFXIV or aion for characters but **** nice environment.
____________________________
....::: All Jobs 99 but GEO and RUN :::....
Genbu [O] Suzaku [O] Seiryu [O] Byakko [O] Kirin [O] In Loving Memory of Kirin RIP 3/6/05
xXIEOSIXx Forums on Shiva



#69 Nov 16 2010 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
***
3,530 posts
yfaithfully wrote:
Aion's characters are considerably better (and more customizable).


Yeah, they range from "realistic" to "ugly, dis-proportioned pile of sh*t with eyes clipping partially through the skull," which is better than only being able to make characters that actually look like they belong in the world they inhabit. >_>
____________________________
"... he called to himself a wizard, named Gallery, hoping by this means to escape the paying of the fifteen hundred crowns..." (Machen 15)

"Thus opium is pleasing... on account of the agreeable delirium it produces." (Burke para.6)

"I could only read so much for this paper and the syphilis poem had to go."
#70 Nov 16 2010 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
*
73 posts
kenshynOnShiva wrote:
I will say now that FFXI has gone to abyssea and basically killed the need for bots the game for me is 1000% better and more fun. Standing in Dragon avery waiting for the best bot to claim niddy use to make my blood crawl since I wasn't a botter and never would. Nothing like a level 1 char claiming a HNM to show you how bad it got.....

Wow is fun for me once you start the 25 man raiding in a good guild on vent took team work and precision to do the end game raids most never get that far that bash wow and that's where the game began for me....


Nah people often get that far and still dont like it. It's just preference man .
If somebody doesnt like the gear progression model and the shallow crafting system and the anonymous feeling of the community because of the ability to create alts then pple may never fully take to the game even if the combat and fight mechanics an UI and endgame of WoW ***** on ff11.

Im done with both games tho. man mmos are just so time consuming
____________________________
BLM-75 NIN 75 WAR 70
Odin
#71 Nov 16 2010 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
**
812 posts
I've always disliked WoW's graphics. They were the number one reason I quit the game after a month. That and the community on Icecrown was the worst I've experienced in an MMO to date. This comes as no surprise to me.
____________________________
Abaddon Active Player Roster
- All your Fabul Sever are belong to us! -


#72MclarenTAGPorsche, Posted: Nov 16 2010 at 12:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You trolling right? WoW graphics are blocky and childish. Only a girl a 12 year old kid or an adult male with some kind of mental ******/child regression problem would think those graphics are good.
#73 Nov 16 2010 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
**
305 posts
kenshynOnShiva wrote:
KacesofCaitsith wrote:
I'll take game play over graphics any day. This applies to everygame. Maybe it's a generation thing.


Fo sure this I play FFXI love the game and I play wow as well ffxiv is like dating a model without a brain or a heart and a soul just a pretty shell. I hope they fix it and can't wait to see the changes they have in store. After playing FFXI since 2003 I know how SE can be when talking changes and then smacks you back to reality..



It's not anything against ffxiv really, just a statement about gaming tastes. Graphics lend to immersion yes, but atmosphere is not limited to dx11 graphics.

Graphics to me are an accent, no where near the core appeal to a game.

FFXI's graphics, for example, are dated - they are nice looking, but lets be honest the game is fairly old. That does not detract one bit from the enjoyment that game brings. Nor the atmosphere it creates.

____________________________


#74 Nov 16 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
***
1,606 posts
MclarenTAGPorsche wrote:
DjinnRB wrote:
you trolling right?

Wow graphics are awesome. and they work efficiently unlike how this games graphics bog the game down to **** even on the best computers.



You trolling right? WoW graphics are blocky and childish. Only a girl a 12 year old kid or an adult male with some kind of mental ******/child regression problem would think those graphics are good.

Have you seen them since the upgrade? I'm not saying that they look insanely realistic since they went with a more "playful" type of design but they have improved a good deal since I had last played earlier this year.
#75 Nov 16 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
**
676 posts
Quote:
Have you seen them since the upgrade? I'm not saying that they look insanely realistic since they went with a more "playful" type of design but they have improved a good deal since I had last played earlier this year.
They've certainly prettied up the lighting effects, added some nice reflections here and there, but the characters, buildings and landscape retain the same blockiness they've always had.

I see it more as window dressing for those with more powerful machines, while those with older ones can still enjoy backwards compatibility. Blizzard are genius if for no other reason than they can cater to a very wide audience.
____________________________

FFXI: Siren Server: Seiowan Lvl 99 WHM, SCH, BLM
FFXIV: Ragnarok Server: Lemuria Glitterhands All Classes 50
#76 Nov 16 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
****
9,997 posts
Quote:
While we're on the subject on going back and looking at old games graphics,

Has anyone gone and looked at the gfx in Everquest?... Or Super Mario Bros 1... Or Donkey Kong.. or Chrono Trigger..


EQ maybe debatable for me, but I'd actually prefer the graphics of those others to WoW. Again, it's the art direction. Back in the days of the NES and SNES, they couldn't do a lot other than make it as appealing to look at as the technology allowed. A lot of us older gamers are used to sprites and we have no problem with them in principle. The move to 3D polygons opened up a whole new world of possibilities, and a lot of those possibilities were crap.

I think it's the characters more than anything that I can't stand in WoW. Graphics and even bad art will rarely turn me away from a game, but I guess the fact that I have to look at it for so long just tears it for me.
____________________________
Hyrist wrote:
Ok, now we're going to get slash fiction of Wint x Kachi somehere... rule 34 and all...

Never confuse your inference as the listener for an implication of the speaker.

Good games are subjective like good food is subjective. You're not going to seriously tell me that there's not a psychological basis for why pizza is great and lutefisk is revolting. The thing about subjectivity is that, as subjects go, humans actually have a great deal in common.
#77 Nov 16 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Excellent
Annoying Ass
ZAM Administrator
Avatar
*****
12,049 posts
Quote:
So what is the story of World of warcraft? What is the point of your character? How is our character impact the world? There is no story IN World of warcraft. there is story AROUND it. Its stupid that I need to look up a story just to understand what point in the time line my character is.


This is completely incorrect, but I understand how you could think it if you have not played the game much. Your character is not the main hero - you play a role in the story and with your compansions. However, your actions do effect things, especially since the most recent expansion introduced "phasing," where the world literally changes depending you the quests you do. Your character also can be recognized - through titles, special mounts, etc. Most of the story originally comes from WC2 and WC3 (and expansion) - lore is constantly added in-game to expand the story, and your character is part of it. Just yesterday I helped fend off an elemental invasion, hopped through a portal, and downed a boss with the King of Stormwind fighting by my side; and after he cheered my name for the entire city to hear!

Sorry it's off-topic for the graphics discussions, but it made more sense to me than in FFXI for example. I installed a new expansion (Crystaline Prophecy?), walked into Jeuno at level 30, and suddenly experience a bizarre event that signifies me as one of the most important people in the world. Are you kidding? I still run from crabs!

Sorry again to derail, I just don't like people making assumptions like the above.
____________________________
Retired News Writer for the ZAM Network
WoW - Aureliano the Insane - level 90 Druid on Sen'Jin
Nanaoki - level 90 Mage on Sen'Jin
1 2 Next »
This forum is read only
This Forum is Read Only!
Recent Visitors: 20 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (20)