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#52 Nov 16 2010 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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wouldnt be the first time they did this to someone


Thats why I form my own opinion by trying the product myself and not base my decision to play a game of reviews.

Too much shady bs with reviews these days.
#53 Nov 16 2010 at 6:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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I gotta agree with that; my general rule of thumb comes off of Jimmy Kimmel's Facebook friends suggestion; if I wouldn't loan someone $50, I wouldn't trust their review of a game.
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#54 Nov 16 2010 at 7:01 PM Rating: Good
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Taemek wrote:
Vedis wrote:
wouldnt be the first time they did this to someone


Thats why I form my own opinion by trying the product myself and not base my decision to play a game of reviews.

Too much shady bs with reviews these days.


you should see the game informer review of red dead redemption. if youve actualy played the game youll laugh your *** off at it.
sure they gave it a good score, BUT what they wrote pretty much admited to not even playing the game, since they basicaly made up some story that never happened in the game
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Taemek wrote:
Vedis wrote:
wouldnt be the first time they did this to someone


Thats why I form my own opinion by trying the product myself and not base my decision to play a game of reviews.

Too much shady bs with reviews these days.

Reviews are most beneficial to smaller game companies. They help good projects with modest budgets achieve success. Most people decide whether or not they will play big releases, like FFXIV, as soon as they are announced. Well established companies can often only be hurt by reviews because people expect a 9 or 10 out of flagship products from SE or Rockstar these days.
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#56 Nov 16 2010 at 11:35 PM Rating: Good
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Sure, I enjoyed the missions and would have liked to see them through. But, I've learned enough from my years with XI to fall for the trap. It isn't worth hundreds of hours of my time doing boring activities to grind, for a few hours of fun questing content.


This perfectly captures my sentiments. I'm sure I would love to do the quests in XIV. Unfortunately, I can't justify all of the unpleasant work that would be required to get to them. Especially when the main incentive is to see the story, which will probably wind up online sooner or later.

I use the GameFAQs user reviews when I want to get a general impression of a game. Critics are just glorified normal players, and most of the people who will rate a game too high or too low stick out in the curve. Of course I tend to assume that most games will be rated on a relatively normal curve.
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#57 Nov 17 2010 at 1:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lego Universe is not an MMORPG. The fact that the Op "beat" it in less than a week tells you that much. I've played it. It's fun (although glitchy), but it's just not the same genre as FFXIV.

IGN (to take one review site for example) has given several perfect 10's to DLC games. Does that mean that those games are better than every full disk-based game, since they're all on the same system but got a higher score? No, of course not. Those DLC games are being rated as fun, cheap diversions, not full games. Lego Universe and FFXIV are on a completely different scale in a very similar way. Lego Universe is pretty good for what it is, but it doesn't pretend to be the same thing as FFXIV, or WoW, or Aion. So, it's not being rated on the same standard.
#58Taemek, Posted: Nov 17 2010 at 1:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You competely missed the OP's point.....I am not sure how you did that when he clearly explains it out in his/her post.
#59 Nov 17 2010 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Lego Universe is not an MMORPG. The fact that the Op "beat" it in less than a week tells you that much. I've played it. It's fun (although glitchy), but it's just not the same genre as FFXIV.

IGN (to take one review site for example) has given several perfect 10's to DLC games. Does that mean that those games are better than every full disk-based game, since they're all on the same system but got a higher score? No, of course not. Those DLC games are being rated as fun, cheap diversions, not full games. Lego Universe and FFXIV are on a completely different scale in a very similar way. Lego Universe is pretty good for what it is, but it doesn't pretend to be the same thing as FFXIV, or WoW, or Aion. So, it's not being rated on the same standard.


When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and its developers market it as a duck then it surely can't be a duck right? Ammount of content does not make a game an MMO or not. It is, whether you want to believe it or not, an MMO. Read my post describing the game to Locke and explain to me how the game isn't an MMO? It follows the description of an MMO to the T and yet it's not an MMO? How does that make any sense to you?

Just because your expectations for Lego Universe and FFXIV are on different planes entirely does not seperate the two game's genres.

Let me help you understand this by monetary standards. I paid the same ammount of money for the Lego Universe box as if I would have paid for FFXIV if I haden't bought the CE. After the first month Lego universe is charging 12.99 a month just like any other MMO.

- Sixty dollars for the game.
- Thirteen dollars a month following that.


I expect a game charging me just as much as FFXIV to be reviewed by the same standards as FFXIV.

edit: Can't seem to spell at this hour.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 2:48am by Wloire
#60 Nov 17 2010 at 4:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ultimately a game has to be rated and reviewed with respect to its target audience. I wouldn't deign to rate and review an FPS and ask for it to be considered as that of a critic, because I don't really like FPS, so anything I have to say about an FPS isn't really pertinent to the target demographic.

Not knowing, well, ANYTHING about the target demographic of LEGO Universe, I can't presume to say how it should be received by the people it's aimed towards. It's not just the genre that matters, either. Kirby is an Action/Adventure game alongside other much more mature titles. I can't judge them by the same standard just because they're in the same genre if they're not even remotely targeted towards the same group of players. There's not a market research analyst in the world who would make that mistake.
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#61 Nov 17 2010 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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Wloire wrote:
Read my post describing the game to Locke and explain to me how the game isn't an MMO? It follows the description of an MMO to the T and yet it's not an MMO?


After reading this bit from IGN:
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There's only one location where grouping and working together is encouraged, and beyond that, it feels detrimental to see other players near you.
perhaps it does not fall into the category of a true MMO yet. Lego Universe appears to be mostly a single player platformer RPG grind hybrid, neither massive nor multiplayer. The fact that it's online and they are charging a subscription is mostly incidental as well, as your subscription will likely just be a way to hold onto your virtual trophies a while longer and build more crap out of Legos in the build mode.

The game falls into a nebulous zone that defies simple classification.
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#62 Nov 17 2010 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Out of my own personal opinion I would have to say IGN is wrong, there are 2 areas where grouping would be beneficial, depending on your characters class level of course. There are only 3 areas where grouping is possible, the fourth area is the Hub and the 5th is the petland.

Like I said before lack of content doesn't make an MMO a single player game.

Take FFXIV for example. How often did you group of for level 1-10 leves? Some of us who came in with the party mindset probably grouped up right away but it really wasn't necessary. Then you get to the second camp, for the most part people probably soloed those leves as well. By the third and fourth camps there are still people who insist on soloing there leves.

Why?

Because they can.

Does that make FFXIV less of an MMO?

You don't need to socialize in Lego just as much as you don't need to in FFXIV but it will improve your experience and make your playtime more efficient.

Again if it's going to charge me the same price and it's in the same genre I expect it to be rated as such. Marketing the game to kids is an ideal goal but their bread and butter will always be 18-40 year olds who grew up with Lego's.

To circle around to my initial post, I didn't expect much more than what I got from Lego Universe, maybe another couple days worth of content but no harm no foul. Similarly, I didn't expect much from FFXIV and look, I'm still playing away enjoying the game. So why does the game get vilified when it simply didn't live up to YOUR(figurative your, not necessarily you) expectations.
#63 Nov 17 2010 at 3:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does FFXIV really deserve the lambasting it received (troll bait!)? Not quite this badly I don't think.
Sure it did, and if you actually read the review rather than saw that it didn't get a good score and started raging about that, you'd see that most of the criticisms are fairly reasoned.

One of the nice things about an aggregator like Metacritic is that you can see an overall picture of how a game is rated and you can check reviews from high and low scores to see what they're talking about and what is worthy of mention (both good and bad) for the game.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 3:38pm by bsphil
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#64 Nov 17 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Grown-ups play Lego Universe?

To be clear, my SIX YEAR OLD is playing it. By himself. Neither me nor my wife have helped him once in it. He's created his own characters, he's maxed out his friendlist, he's been getting zones. I have no idea what you do in the game, but I've watched him a few times and it's a gorgeous game (especially on my ultrabright CRT monitor - the colors are amazing and it runs so smooth).

It hasn't crashed once. Servers seem to be up when he gets on. We had zero trouble creating an account for him or paying. It came with instructions which he read, and he seems to understand the game fine without having to spend all day on forums.

It seems to run amazingly well. My son absolutely adores it. And it's the first MMO from Lego.

And it's FOR CHILDREN. And you can buy it for $40, not $50 (even cheaper some places).

And it gets 4 stars on Amazon from USERS.

I could barely play the open beta of FFXIV for more than 2 hours. It got so freaking tedious. The graphics failed to impress after an hour of playing (on ultra settings). And if the FFXIV zones are "bigger," it's cuz of copy/pasta terrain.
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Wloire wrote:
Does FFXIV really deserve the lambasting it received (troll bait!)? Not quite this badly I don't think.
Sure it did, and if you actually read the review rather than saw that it didn't get a good score and started raging about that, you'd see that most of the criticisms are fairly reasoned.

One of the nice things about an aggregator like Metacritic is that you can see an overall picture of how a game is rated and you can check reviews from high and low scores to see what they're talking about and what is worthy of mention (both good and bad) for the game.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 3:38pm by bsphil


I did read The Gamespot review, the Gamespy review, as well as the 1up review and the Cheat CC review. I also watched the Gametrailers review. I can say the criticisms are personal preference for the most part and even considering them "fairly reasoned" that doesn't mean the game deserved the scores it received, which is what most human being's will care about. Not everyone is an intelligent, patient human being such as yourself. Many people look for the number and be on their way.

Take for example the UI problems. Now if they are referring to the UI lag then yes, that is a considerable problem. On the other hand complaigning about the UI functionality is personal preference. Hundreds of thousands of players got through FFXI without stirring up a sh*tstorm. The rest of us playing FFXIV also get through the menu's with no problem. I survived with just as many menu's in EVE online or the aforementioned Lego Universe. Why is it key for these three games but not FFXIV?

I'm seeing a disturbing trend. AoC, WAR, Aion, now FFXIV. Any game that hypes up expectations as a WoW-toppler faces absolute failure and ridicule upon it's release. None of these games were bad per se but because they weren't quite ready to meet expectations they get destroyed by the media. Is this fair?

Again don't get me wrong. I'm not saying FFXIV was ready for release. I'm not saying the game isn't critically lacking in content. What I am saying is the game isn't bad. It doesn't deserve a 51.

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Grown-ups play Lego Universe?

To be clear, my SIX YEAR OLD is playing it. By himself. Neither me nor my wife have helped him once in it. He's created his own characters, he's maxed out his friendlist, he's been getting zones. I have no idea what you do in the game, but I've watched him a few times and it's a gorgeous game (especially on my ultrabright CRT monitor - the colors are amazing and it runs so smooth).

It hasn't crashed once. Servers seem to be up when he gets on. We had zero trouble creating an account for him or paying. It came with instructions which he read, and he seems to understand the game fine without having to spend all day on forums.

It seems to run amazingly well. My son absolutely adores it. And it's the first MMO from Lego.

And it's FOR CHILDREN. And you can buy it for $40, not $50 (even cheaper some places).

And it gets 4 stars on Amazon from USERS.

I could barely play the open beta of FFXIV for more than 2 hours. It got so freaking tedious. The graphics failed to impress after an hour of playing (on ultra settings). And if the FFXIV zones are "bigger," it's cuz of copy/pasta terrain.


I can assure you without a doubt that at the moment (before they breeze through the content) the majority of the playerbase for Lego Universe is adult. Parent's such as yourself aren't yet the norm and most are very wary of allowing their kids play an MMO let alone paying 12 dollars a month for it. I offered to pay for my girlfriends brother to play (he's eight), her mother, who is a Pharmacologist with a PHD, i.e. a very intelligent women, and only 42 refused. This isn't because she is some random paranoid schizophrenic. There are legitimate fears to allowing your kid run rampant in a world filled with anonymous strangers who are not as they appear, especially when you have no control over it.

Not to mention yes kids who grew up with Lego never grow out of it. Lego is an amazing toy for all ages and nothing but your imagination can restrict the fun you will have with a box of blocks. That doesn't change the fact that the MMO in itself isn't worth 13 dollars a month. The only content of the game past day 4 is the block yards.

I find it harder to believe an adult would use the term copy/pasta. The FFXIV zones aren't only "bigger" they are 100 times bigger. The largest zone in Lego Universe might be about the size of one section of a single zone in FFXI, i.e. South La Noscea. Can you tell me what in Lego Universe isn't copy and pasted? Is it the same trees in Gnarled forest used over and over and over? Thats too easy.Maybe its the way the maps are layed out as hallway to zone where Maelstrom spawns to hallway to zone where maelstrom spawn. There are 8 enemy units in the entire game, 3 of which are the same unit in basic design, with a pirate hat on and with samurai armor on. What exactly in Lego Universe isn't copy and pasted in the entirety of their 5 zones?

I'm glad the pretty colours dazzled you though.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 5:33pm by Wloire
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OP, you like FFXIV? Write a review.

Whoever has a kid that enjoys playing Lego Universe, have them write a review.

Then, we can compare the 2 reviews.

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When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and its developers market it as a duck then it surely can't be a duck right? Ammount of content does not make a game an MMO or not. It is, whether you want to believe it or not, an MMO. Read my post describing the game to Locke and explain to me how the game isn't an MMO? It follows the description of an MMO to the T and yet it's not an MMO? How does that make any sense to you?

I never said it wasn't an MMO. I said it wasn't an MMORPG. Frankly, my personal sense is that it's a single-player game that happens to run in a persistent world with other people playing the same single player game, but there's no denying that it's not the same kind of game as FFXIV. Lego Universe is a fun game for kids and kids-at-heart. It doesn't look like a "grown-up" MMORPG, it doesn't play like one, and it doesn't sell like one. If you genuinely thought that Lego Universe would offer the same scope and depth as FFXIV, WoW, or Aion, then I don't know what to tell you, but the differences seemed clear to me.
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Ever heard the saying, never judge a book by its cover? That applies here.

What an odd metaphor to use here. Should all books be reviewed by the same standard, even though they sell in a half-a-dozen different sections of the book store, to completely different audiences? An adult who sees a positive review for a children's book should scream "hypocrisy" because it received the same four stars as a longer, deeper, more satisfying book for an adult? Goosebumps and Steven King are both horror books, so they need to be reviewed on the same scale?

The genre differences here just seem really, really obvious. If there are people are there buying games based on a title and a review score, and literally nothing else, then I can see how they'd be confused. But, I just don't see that as a large section of game buyers. Everyone I know at least looks at the box.

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Disregard my previous post. You're only R23, you don't have enough "experience" with FFXIV to write a review.
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Disregard my previous post. You're only R23, you don't have enough "experience" with FFXIV to write a review.

O.O

What is the point you're trying to make? You just admitted that none of the official reviewers who wrote reviews for this game had enough experience.

Unless I got hit on the head and have forgotten a key part of my argument, I never said anything about the reviewers not playing enough of the game. That never figured in anywhere. That's a different thread entirely.
#70 Nov 17 2010 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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My point is this:

Soon (well, in your case maybe not soon, LOL), you're gonna have to grind for SP, and I can guarantee that you won't be enjoying the grind.

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Grown-ups play Lego Universe?

To be clear, my SIX YEAR OLD is playing it. By himself. Neither me nor my wife have helped him once in it. He's created his own characters, he's maxed out his friendlist, he's been getting zones. I have no idea what you do in the game, but I've watched him a few times and it's a gorgeous game (especially on my ultrabright CRT monitor - the colors are amazing and it runs so smooth).

It hasn't crashed once. Servers seem to be up when he gets on. We had zero trouble creating an account for him or paying. It came with instructions which he read, and he seems to understand the game fine without having to spend all day on forums.

It seems to run amazingly well. My son absolutely adores it. And it's the first MMO from Lego.

And it's FOR CHILDREN. And you can buy it for $40, not $50 (even cheaper some places).

And it gets 4 stars on Amazon from USERS.

I could barely play the open beta of FFXIV for more than 2 hours. It got so freaking tedious. The graphics failed to impress after an hour of playing (on ultra settings). And if the FFXIV zones are "bigger," it's cuz of copy/pasta terrain.



im 31 and i play lego universe
of course my goal isnt in the gameplay, but in the building aspect(working on gathering the materials in it to build a full scale cafe/shop for socializing, with interior decoration and everything)
and ffxiv here has taken all my time away from doing that
my 8 year old plays it alot too

as far as graphics...its lego, did you really expect awesomeness graphics....lol
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My point is this:

Soon (well, in your case maybe not soon, LOL), you're gonna have to grind for SP, and I can guarantee that you won't be enjoying the grind.



What do you mean soon? I've had to grind since level 20 if not before. Who cares? I'm in no rush to 50 for the non existent end game. I'll take it one party at a time and I can tell you grinding with a party is a **** of a lot funner then grinding solo, but who am I to suggest all the soloers group up in an MMO? Do you not remember FFXI before ToAU (maybe you weren't there)? Did you ever play Everquest? Some of us have the patience to deal with it.

Now whether it's worth dealing with, what with the lack of content, is another question entirely.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 6:39pm by Wloire
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Okay, let's completely forget about the brand names that the 2 games have for a moment here.
Both games market as MMORPGs.
Both games launched with buggy, unfinished content and charged you for the game itself.
One of these games is already charging you fees to play it.
One of these games has many updates on the way.
The game that is charging you fees already is not the one with constant updates on the way.

Which game is better? By descriptions I have given, not by the name of the games.
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According to reviews, one game is fun to play.

As for the OP, I am referring to the horrible combat mechanics, aka random SP, boring gameplay, button mashing brainless combat. And don't forget the broken party search system, that in itself is a huge time sink.

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Uryuu wrote:
Okay, let's completely forget about the brand names that the 2 games have for a moment here.
Both games market as MMORPGs.
Both games launched with buggy, unfinished content and charged you for the game itself.
One of these games is already charging you fees to play it.
One of these games has many updates on the way.
The game that is charging you fees already is not the one with constant updates on the way.

Which game is better? By descriptions I have given, not by the name of the games.


Mis Info here

LU does have updates on the way they announced the first already that comes out next week
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http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/newsnetwork/default.aspx

LOL this game looks like it might be a decent time waster till they fix FFXIV. It even has user created content:

http://messageboards.lego.com/en-us/showpost.aspx?PostID=3128970

#77 Nov 17 2010 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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According to reviews, one game is fun to play.

As for the OP, I am referring to the horrible combat mechanics, aka random SP, boring gameplay, button mashing brainless combat. And don't forget the broken party search system, that in itself is a huge time sink.



The combat system is a button mashed because you make it so. It's not efficient for damage or SP to hit 1-1-1-1-1. I use every skill on my toolbar except for legsweep. Is that too much effort for you? You can't blame your own poor habits on the game.

Also you seem to think because you don't know how to usethe party system that it's broken. Just because I don't know how to program in C++ doesen't make it broken. Just because I tend to stall a car while driving stick doesent make the system broken. Learn how to use the system and it won't feel so broken.

As for the random SP, yea it's random, yea it sucks. Yea that's all I got for that one, touche. Although theoretically if you were to have a doppelgänger who exped when you exped, wore the same gear you do and leveled the same class as you, even though you get different amounts of exp you would hit 50 at the same time. Bleh statistics.

Edit: ya I mentioned the user created content multiple times, thanks for joining the thread. Iv also mentioned how that content is restricted to instances zones which are un helpfully sorted in a list with mo method of seeing what's in the instance without taking the time to load it up.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 8:12pm by Wloire
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Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity
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Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


Are you seriously going to pretend to not understand what I meant just so you can conjure a chuckle over my poor grammar? I mean I did laugh so you win but it doesen't say much to your participation in the discussion.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 8:28pm by Wloire
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Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


I say we need an MMORPG that requires a 2 year college degree or higher to create an account. That will keep out all the ******* casuals!
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
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Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


I say we need an MMORPG that requires a 2 year college degree or higher to create an account. That will keep out all the @#%^ing casuals!


oh god thatd probly be worst cuz then youd have everyone saying "i coulda made it better" regardless of how good or bad it is, and then posting 50 page essays on the exact way they would in detail......
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Wloire wrote:
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Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


Are you seriously going to pretend to not understand what I meant just so you can conjure a chuckle over my poor grammar? I mean I did laugh so you win but it doesen't say much to your participation in the discussion.

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 8:28pm by Wloire


I'm not pretending anything, the way it sounded was as if you needed to make a macro or something to properly search for a party in the game, i never made it to the point where i wanted to search for a party so thats why i was asking :)
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


I say we need an MMORPG that requires a 2 year college degree or higher to create an account. That will keep out all the @#%^ing casuals!


Why hate the casuals ? More casuals = more money, look at World of Warcraft
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Ostia wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Why would you need to know how to program in C++ to be able to use the search party function ? just out of curiosity


I say we need an MMORPG that requires a 2 year college degree or higher to create an account. That will keep out all the @#%^ing casuals!


Why hate the casuals ? More casuals = more money, look at World of Warcraft


WHOOSH
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(He was joking). Although I hope you are too if you believe World of Warcraft is the be-all-end-all of MMO's. Then again, some tweens think Justin Bieber is the be all-end-all of music so I guess the above wouldn't be so farfetch'd.

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 1:04am by Wloire
#86 Nov 18 2010 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
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i will refer you to my signature
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This is all just a fanboy civil war. Some are hurt that SE gave them such a crap game, the others are hurt that anyone would call it crap.
#87 Nov 18 2010 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Wloire wrote:
So I just "finished" Lego Universe, that is to say my character is maxed out as far as I can currently take him, I have completed what seems to be all of the achievements and missions in game and other than collecting more blocks to add to my personal creations. I seem to have done all I can do in the game. I started playing on Thursday.

Disclaimer: I love Lego, I enjoyed Lego Universe.

But that doesn't change the fact that the game has at best 5 zones all of which are infinitely smaller then FFXIV's, one of which, Pet Cove, has next to nothing to do. The content took me significantly less time then FFXIV to burn through. The UI is menu based and strikingly similar to FFXIV's (except NPC Buy/Sell oh god did they do that right). There are some pretty glaring, although not game breaking, bugs/flaws (I can't program my door on my creation to open upon contact?).

Now don't get me wrong, there are a couple of reviews, notably by IGN that mention all these problems and score accordingly but overall Lego Universe receives rave reviews while FFXIV does not.
According to Metacritic while Lego Universe sits at and average 66 review score and a stunning 8.1 user rating. FFXIV sits at a 51 review score and dismal 3.8 user score.

So what's the difference between the two games? Is Lego rated more leniently because it's more childish fare? Is it simply our nostalgia for Lego?


Edited, Nov 15th 2010 9:34pm by Wloire



oh also will mention this after reading the thread.

Lego has always made fun games, but nothing ever serious. They are usually games made for those 12 and under.... just like the blocks themselves. They make good games but lego has not changed the face of the gaming industry. SE when it was SquareSoft did this with almost every game it released up to FFX. FF left is competitors going " omfg seriously ....uhhh.... hmmm". I can think of like 2 true rpgs from the day that even had a partial foot in the door when SS was in the room. Lego has not they make fun games that even make fun of the game itself. Thats why no one takes lego seriously, they take old technology copy and paste some lego men do some art and wamoosh they have a game, that is 90% rehashed off of something from 2+ years before.

now that said Lego starwars was hella fun.... but it was not mind blowing, and i generally enjoy most lego games, that is all
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This is all just a fanboy civil war. Some are hurt that SE gave them such a crap game, the others are hurt that anyone would call it crap.
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