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#1 Nov 16 2010 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm new to a game that doesn't even tell you how to do things or what things are for until 10-15 minutes AFTER you need to start knowing how to do things. I'm new to a game where everyone's bazaar that I've seen seems to take for granted that nearly everyone in the game is rich and above level 20. I'm new to a game where many people are kneeling and crafting but if someone asks for directions or a little verbal assistance, they're presented with silence or "Everything in the game is made, buy from a player" or "There's npcs with lol goods. go to a market district" and my map shows no market district :/

I'm kind of looking for the helpful warmth I saw when FFXI launched or that I recieve in most other rp communities. Not looking for handouts or anything.. just please, keep in mind that new players DO come to this game. Show some welcome and courtesy, please?
#2 Nov 16 2010 at 10:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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This game does require some learning outside the game to get ahold of things. Zam's a good place to look.
New Player Guide
Fishing Guide, if you so wish
Retainers Guide
Crafting Guide
Market Wards Guide

Then there are the posts concerning the server. The best way to learn and meet people is to join a linkshell. There is a stickied list at the top of the Besaid forums: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=197&mid=1284223399180969879&page=1

Plus a Besaid starters guide at
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=197&mid=1285716638225654727&page=1

Welcome to the server :)
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#3 Nov 16 2010 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel ya man
but unfortunately alot of newer games will have this attitude

there are those of us who try to help others, but unfortunately, for every 100 people I personaly help, the one i dont, is the only one that ever gets noticed and makes a big deal out of it.


there are alot of good people in the game if you really look around and ask
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#4 Nov 16 2010 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry you've gotten this kind of experience, Licki! But please don't let this be your first impression.

I started on Rabanastre (because that's where some of my friends wanted to play), and got the big cold shoulder and a lot of rudeness. I then came to Besaid and found the community to be like night and day. People were generally talkative, friendly and helpful. I'm sorry that you have yet to see this side of Besaid, but I promise you there is a good community here.

Part of the issue right now is that things are a little quiet until some of the upcoming changes are implemented. Plus, when people are crafting, they have to stare at that colored orb. It can be difficult to pay attention to the chat log when you're in the middle of a synth.

If you're looking for a LS to call home, I would recommend browsing the Besaid linkshell list.

Welcome to Besaid and I hope you'll give us a chance to offer you a place to call home. =)
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#5 Nov 17 2010 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Selyne wrote:
I'm sorry you've gotten this kind of experience, Licki! But please don't let this be your first impression.

I started on Rabanastre (because that's where some of my friends wanted to play), and got the big cold shoulder and a lot of rudeness. I then came to Besaid and found the community to be like night and day. People were generally talkative, friendly and helpful. I'm sorry that you have yet to see this side of Besaid, but I promise you there is a good community here.

Part of the issue right now is that things are a little quiet until some of the upcoming changes are implemented. Plus, when people are crafting, they have to stare at that colored orb. It can be difficult to pay attention to the chat log when you're in the middle of a synth.

If you're looking for a LS to call home, I would recommend browsing the Besaid linkshell list.

Welcome to Besaid and I hope you'll give us a chance to offer you a place to call home. =)


since when do people stare at the orb
most i know standard spam while watching tv and only glance back now and then to reload their materials lol
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#6 Nov 17 2010 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Between looking at the orb, synth log, durability and available actions there isn't much I usually pay atention to, even LS chat. If you take into consoderation thta some people might actually using facilities which are on a timer then people might not have the time to spend on a lengthy conversation.

I would advise to have patience and maybe take your quetsions to areas where people gather to RP, if you stay in character there is a good chance some good sould will help you out.
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#7 Nov 17 2010 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
since when do people stare at the orb


I do. And so do a lot of people. Not paying attention to color and to the progress bar makes for lazy crafters. =P

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 4:16pm by Selyne
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#8 Nov 17 2010 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
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Selyne wrote:
Vedis wrote:
since when do people stare at the orb


I do. And so do a lot of people. Not paying attention to color and to the progress bar makes for lazy crafters. =P

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 4:16pm by Selyne


id rather be lazy then crazy pulling my hair out over it lol
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#9 Nov 18 2010 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
Selyne wrote:
Vedis wrote:
since when do people stare at the orb


I do. And so do a lot of people. Not paying attention to color and to the progress bar makes for lazy crafters. =P

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 4:16pm by Selyne


id rather be lazy then crazy pulling my hair out over it lol


Thats the same as saying that as a Gladiator you don't pay atention to when u can use Phalanx because Light slash is good enough!
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#10 Nov 18 2010 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Hugus wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Selyne wrote:
Vedis wrote:
since when do people stare at the orb


I do. And so do a lot of people. Not paying attention to color and to the progress bar makes for lazy crafters. =P

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 4:16pm by Selyne


id rather be lazy then crazy pulling my hair out over it lol


Thats the same as saying that as a Gladiator you don't pay atention to when u can use Phalanx because Light slash is good enough!


when battlecrafting you can die
so the comparison doesnt work unless they somehow changed it so your synths can jump out and attack you
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#11 Nov 20 2010 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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Hugus wrote:
Between looking at the orb, synth log, durability and available actions there isn't much I usually pay atention to, even LS chat. If you take into consoderation thta some people might actually using facilities which are on a timer then people might not have the time to spend on a lengthy conversation.

Not to mention the pesky chat log resets that you get with every completed synth step, so there's not much possible to do mid-craft other than grunt. :\ (I'd love to be able to hold a conversation while I work, but at least for now that's not really possible. :( )
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#12 Nov 20 2010 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Triane wrote:
Hugus wrote:
Between looking at the orb, synth log, durability and available actions there isn't much I usually pay atention to, even LS chat. If you take into consoderation thta some people might actually using facilities which are on a timer then people might not have the time to spend on a lengthy conversation.

Not to mention the pesky chat log resets that you get with every completed synth step, so there's not much possible to do mid-craft other than grunt. :\ (I'd love to be able to hold a conversation while I work, but at least for now that's not really possible. :( )



You could always blow ten minutes of your time to stop the synth, emote, then start the synth back up
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#13 Nov 21 2010 at 1:00 AM Rating: Good
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chopstx wrote:
You could always blow ten minutes of your time to stop the synth, emote, then start the synth back up


This just shows that some people here don't synth and end up not understanding how interrupting a synth to emote or to give directions can cause a loss of more than just ten minutes.
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#14 Nov 21 2010 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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Triane wrote:
Hugus wrote:
Between looking at the orb, synth log, durability and available actions there isn't much I usually pay atention to, even LS chat. If you take into consoderation thta some people might actually using facilities which are on a timer then people might not have the time to spend on a lengthy conversation.

Not to mention the pesky chat log resets that you get with every completed synth step, so there's not much possible to do mid-craft other than grunt. :\ (I'd love to be able to hold a conversation while I work, but at least for now that's not really possible. :( )


The synth steps no longer reset the chat logs. The UI windows can, but at that point you're usually hitting a bunch of buttons. Anyways, if the UI resets the chat log, reopen the chat and hit the up arrow.
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#15 Nov 22 2010 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
Hugus wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Selyne wrote:
Vedis wrote:
since when do people stare at the orb


I do. And so do a lot of people. Not paying attention to color and to the progress bar makes for lazy crafters. =P

Edited, Nov 17th 2010 4:16pm by Selyne


id rather be lazy then crazy pulling my hair out over it lol


Thats the same as saying that as a Gladiator you don't pay atention to when u can use Phalanx because Light slash is good enough!


when battlecrafting you can die
so the comparison doesnt work unless they somehow changed it so your synths can jump out and attack you


Between the time it takes you to gothrough Weakened and be ready to fight and stop crafting, doing the repair and to back to crafting again, even if you dont need to get more support ... you probbaly take less time and effort just waitting for weakened to go and runing to camp.
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#16 Nov 22 2010 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I think my head just exploded.
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