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#1 Nov 18 2010 at 9:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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In this week's Famitsu, Final Fantasy XIV Producer Hiromichi Tanaka and Director Nobuaki Komoto spoke again on the current state of the game, and how they intend to improve it over the coming months.

However, they also finally shed some light on the PlayStation 3 version, which is now "100% complete" and going through adjustments to make it smoother and better for the eventual release.

The main limitations faced on the PS3 are its limited memory and CPU performance when compared with the PC, which can continue to be upgraded by the user. While Tanaka admits there may be some minor differences such as texture resolution, the overall presentation will be almost identical between the two platforms.

Before announcing an official date, the developers will be hard at work bringing the quality of the PS3 as close to the PC as possible given the capabilities of the game system. In addition, they will continue to stamp out all the issues PC players have raised so far, which includes softening the game's steep learning curve. "We're planning to increase the amount of tutorials and beginner quests so players that start with the PS3 version won't have such a hard time," Tanaka stated.

PC users can look forward to a large version update, which will be implemented when the PS3 version goes live. At that point, Komoto says they "aim to deliver a world into which PC players will be eager to invite their new friends."

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#2 Nov 18 2010 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds good so far.
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Nifty, boffo, cool.
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I hate to be the one to say it, but how is the ps3 version complete when the pc version is still far from it?
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taliph wrote:
I hate to be the one to say it, but how is the ps3 version complete when the pc version is still far from it?


I think you know what they meant sir or madam...
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I think you know what they meant sir or madam...


I know what they meant... they are sending it to press. But that doesn't make their statement any less absurd.

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"100% complete" and going through adjustments


Seems mutually exclusive to me

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100% complete seems like an awfully loaded term, especially considering the state of the game now and that there hasn't even BEEN a beta for ps3 yet.
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#8 Nov 18 2010 at 9:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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100% complete seems like an awfully loaded term, especially considering the state of the game now and that there hasn't even BEEN a beta for ps3 yet.

And it's also "going through adjustments to make it smoother and better," i.e. not 100% complete.

I'm guessing they mean all of the game's assets are ported over but not optimized.
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I would assume it means they have an alpha build that actually runs on the PS3.
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100% complete means it is now playable on PS3, whereas it wasn't before. Making the game smoother and whatnot is all fine tuning. And for the record, no MMO is 100% complete.

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 10:37pm by Teneleven
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Teneleven wrote:
100% complete means it is now playable on PS3, whereas it wasn't before. Making the game smoother and whatnot is all fine tuning. And for the record, no MMO is 100% complete.

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 10:37pm by Teneleven


QFT^^.

Why can't people slow down when reading something and let it absorb before having a knee jerk reaction to try and post something intelligent?
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What they said seems pretty straight forward to me. It's playable, as far as they say, but needs some adjusting. I imagine it is in somewhat better condition that the PC version when it was released. Yet, it is possible it is in the same stat the PC version was when it came out. I'm pretty sure though that when it is actually released it will be in a better condition than the PC was. All the updates and fixes we are going through will affect the PS3. On top of that, I imagine they are going to be working harder for the release of the PS3. I really don't think they want the same thing to happen all over again. I'm sure that they will run into some issues when the PS3 version is up and running. But, for me, that is to be expected to some extent.

As far as most people consider, the PS3 isn't really %100. But, as far as SE sees it, it is. I'm hoping by now that most of us can read into what SE says and know what exactly they mean. Yeah, they are a bit more open now, but they are still using the SE language we have all come to know lol.
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Glad to see updates on this. I have a few old XI buddies who have to wait for PS3 launch before joining me in game, and hearing that things are moving along on that front is great. I can't wait for launch.
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By 100% complete, they most likely mean that the game is, in game industry terms, "final", meaning not only content complete, but also in a state of code lock. At this point, they are making adjustments to make sure that all of the major bugs are out, as well as preparing to submit this product for Sony (in SCEJ, SCEA, and SCEE) for compliance test.

Of course, no living MMO is ever "complete", even after release so...yeah...
#15 Nov 19 2010 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
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This gives me hope that the ps3 version will release on schedule.


Though I get the feeling that if there behind on the fixes and updates and the games not in the state they want it in they will push back ps3 release.


Its there best shot at getting some good reviews of the game and I'd bet they intend to use it to its fullest.
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Teneleven wrote:
100% complete means it is now playable on PS3, whereas it wasn't before. Making the game smoother and whatnot is all fine tuning. And for the record, no MMO is 100% complete.

Edited, Nov 18th 2010 10:37pm by Teneleven


QFT^^.

Why can't people slow down when reading something and let it absorb before having a knee jerk reaction to try and post something intelligent?
Isn't really that simple, they gave us this kind of approach with the state of the PC version.

It's alarming that company dear to call "100% complete" something that is barely playable, as the PC version was on CE release, I think the people how's wondering that they mean by that statement or not believing it right away is just being cautions, not jumping in a knee jerk reaction.

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#17ironmonk25, Posted: Nov 19 2010 at 3:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this game getting a good review!? ooo the dream world u are living in
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finally some hint of news about the ps3 release... I felt as if it was all but forgotten.
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taliph wrote:
I hate to be the one to say it, but how is the ps3 version complete when the pc version is still far from it?



The coding and framework are complete. Now the dev's only need to focus on content, Having two seperate UI's, and other things that do not involve bringing what's currently there and planned for PC out for the PS3.

The game foundation is complete, content and everything is all done after the basic game is done. Hence SE's approach get the game running and bug free, then release content and adjust as necessary.
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Does this mean possible release date before March 2011?
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Geffe the Meaningless wrote:
Does this mean possible release date before March 2011?


Somehow I highly doubt it. If they are smart they will wait til next year to release it. I think that will really be their best move. They will have a lot more of the issues fixed by then (hopefully) and the PS3 launch should be a lot smoother and successful than the PC one. If they do it now or really soon, I don't see it having the desired results. They want this PS3 launch to be, more or less, their second start or chance. It would be in their best interest to not launch the PS3 version too soon. At least that is my opinion. Not saying it will make or break them if they do, especially if they are going to really follow through with these updates.
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I guess that they will wait until they follow through with all the updates. The will try to make the current player base happy. Then when the time comes to launch the ps3 version. There will be large scale expansion content. This will make the game magazines and reviewers take another look at the game. A few questions that remain to be answered: Will there be a beta for the ps3? Will they renew the free trial until that time?
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I guess that they will wait until they follow through with all the updates. The will try to make the current player base happy. Then when the time comes to launch the ps3 version. There will be large scale expansion content. This will make the game magazines and reviewers take another look at the game. A few questions that remain to be answered: Will there be a beta for the ps3? Will they renew the free trial until that time?


I don't think there will be a large expansion @ PS3 release. If anything I see SE rolling out content here and there once these 'fixes' are implemented. Don't get me wrong, an expansion would be nice, especially one with 'advanced' jobs or something, but I just don't see that as their focus right now.

I'd think SEP/OCT of 2011 for the first big expansion. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
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I personally can't wait. I spent $75 on CE and my PC died. I really was looking forward to play still am issues and all. I'm just bored of auto attack in ffxi. And really wanted to have a fully customize character/ class.
So really relying on ps3 to play ffxiv.
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In this week's Famitsu, Final Fantasy XIV Producer Hiromichi Tanaka and Director Nobuaki Komoto spoke again on the current state of the game, and how they intend to improve it over the coming months.

However, they also finally shed some light on the PlayStation 3 version, which is now "100% complete" and going through adjustments to make it smoother and better for the eventual release.

The main limitations faced on the PS3 are its limited memory and CPU performance when compared with the PC, which can continue to be upgraded by the user. While Tanaka admits there may be some minor differences such as texture resolution, the overall presentation will be almost identical between the two platforms.

Before announcing an official date, the developers will be hard at work bringing the quality of the PS3 as close to the PC as possible given the capabilities of the game system. In addition, they will continue to stamp out all the issues PC players have raised so far, which includes softening the game's steep learning curve. "We're planning to increase the amount of tutorials and beginner quests so players that start with the PS3 version won't have such a hard time," Tanaka stated.

PC users can look forward to a large version update, which will be implemented when the PS3 version goes live. At that point, Komoto says they "aim to deliver a world into which PC players will be eager to invite their new friends."

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taliph wrote:
I hate to be the one to say it, but how is the ps3 version complete when the pc version is still far from it?



100% complete? now is this XIV PC version 100% (which means not ready but ready @ alpha/beta stage) or are we talking 100% ready (better then what PC was when released). I still want to know which they based XIV around, sounds like they hyped up the power so it can be impressive on the PC but they initially wanted it a PS3 version. I plan on buying the PS3 version because I want to wait a while before i upgrade my PC yet again. I got the awesome graphics card but I need a better CPU which means motherboard too...

At least by 12 months time I would have completely upgraded my pc..

Either way cant wait for PS3 version. I bet it runs much better and smoother then what PC does currently.
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#26thehellfire, Posted: Nov 19 2010 at 3:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There is still time to get a mass email campaign to stop SE from releasing a console port.
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The "PS3 Version 100% Complete" statement just makes me want to throw up. It completely re-enforces the criticism that SE has no idea what it means to be complete with a game. Complete IMHO means that the game has been fully tested, is essentially bug free and all major components of the game are in place, none of which was true when FFXIV for the PC launched.
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The "PS3 Version 100% Complete" statement just makes me want to throw up. It completely re-enforces the criticism that SE has no idea what it means to be complete with a game. Complete IMHO means that the game has been fully tested, is essentially bug free and all major components of the game are in place, none of which was true when FFXIV for the PC launched.


Must admit a delay would of been nice but too late, at least they not doing a GT5 and delay.. delay... delay... delay God **** it!!!! :D

We wouldnt be happy either way in all honesty.
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It's 100% complete but we don't want to release the PS3 version until we've had a chance to fix FFXIV because if we release it right now we will have screwed the pooch with both launches and we would then be completely screwed


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Geffe the Meaningless wrote:
Does this mean possible release date before March 2011?


Considering the first and only version update scheduled for 2011 currently is in March, I doubt it. In fact, I'm assuming based on SE's info that the first content update will be added on the day of PS3 release.
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they mean its 100% complete as in ready to be tested.
You guys are twisting this 100% complete thing and really should learn HOW ganes are made it is not easy bugs happen. PC are NOT perfect machines. Not even for game devs.
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There is still time to get a mass email campaign to stop SE from releasing a console port.

You do realise ffxiv was made fore ps3 first well announced for ps3 first right? And that ffxi was out on ps2 first in japan?
So really if you thik about it ffxi/ ffxiv were ported to pc.
And also thay most jp play ffxi on ps2 and will mostly play ffxiv on ps3. They are not big PC gamers.
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Was gonna buy a new pc the other day, but thought I'd just wait on the ps3 release. I have the hardware and it just makes sence
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I find it hilarious that people will even attempt to define mmo "complete."
Bugs, glitches, exploits, and so on? They're all part of a normal MMO environment.If you were to test every single contingency for every single combination of every single equipment, text command, keystroke, positioning on the map, how x program interacts with y aspect of the game...you'd never release it. Even if you did roughly 20 years after development began, and somehow the graphics engine didn't need testing at all, you would then have to repeat the process for every single content update...and then again every time someone made a new program, and yet AGAIN every time someone found an issue.
MMO complete is closer to "working, not disconnecting you every hour, and no graphical errors." Does noone else here remember that Blizzard called Wrath of the Lich King "complete" without even testing Wintergrasp correctly? I did about 50 wintergrasps in a single day before they shut WG down for a month because of it. To this day, they still have not implemented the "Aerial Dogfights" promised on both the packaging and the official website.
How about when Microsoft called Vista "complete" and it how still doesn't work properly to this day? They simply repackaged and fixed it, marketed it as "Windows 7" and charged us again for it.
Even Lineage, a game that has been online for over a decade, has the occasional game-breaking bug.
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2010-01-06/ncsoft_lineage_besets_with_armor_bugs.shtml

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After the huge delay we've already experienced, I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop for cancellation. I'm glad to hear they're still committed.
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#37 Nov 20 2010 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Geffe the Meaningless wrote:
Does this mean possible release date before March 2011?

Hope not. I would rather hear about a delay than an early release. I like this game and would hate to see it flop again. PC version was released far, far too early even for MMO standards, and an early release is the last thing they should be thinking about right now. If anything it needs more time in development.

PS3 launch is a second chance, and I would really like them to use all the time they have to get it right. It may be the only chance this game has at a stable, active, player-base(and that's assuming people are even willing to look at it again after seeing the PC version).
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You guys do know the ps3 version runs on the same client right? So no chance it will flop. It will have the first 2 if not all 3 major updates to it. The only reson ffxiv "floped" was the bugs and buggy bata, they was fearful of putting to much data thinking the servers would crash to much. Since the servers are more stable they began working on the ps3 again, and fixing ffxiv. tbh my opinion is, mmorog are not about the furst launch, it about the longevity or life of it. Better put its replay ability. Which was apb lacked, wow mmo shooter, better off playing halo or something then its practically free.
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