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#1 Nov 22 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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With the nifty weather effects and stuff I haven't had to opportunity to fully scan a clear sky, but I'm wondering if any one has seen anything that they believe to be a constellation of some sort. Some of the FF games have had a heavy emphasis on Zodiacs or symbols of an astral diety or two.

The only thing I've seen so far is a group of stars that make a perfect triangle, tried to take a pic but the clouds moved too fast.
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#2 Nov 22 2010 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I've had the same idea....I've spent some time looking up at the stars looking for patterns, but nothing prominent so far. There is a bright blue star that is bigger than the rest, but smaller than the moon....I'm curious what it is.
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You mean they didn't just copy/paste the sky? That's great: very few games even bother with that, though the lack of it always bothers me.

To see the same pattern of stars one, two, ten times in the night sky really breaks the feeling of an actual world; it towers over half of the screen, developers should spend the extra twenty minutes to make it unique!
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#4 Nov 22 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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KaneKitty wrote:
You mean they didn't just copy/paste the sky? That's great: very few games even bother with that, though the lack of it always bothers me.


IMO of all things on planet Earth, the easiest thing to faithfully replicate would be the stars in the sky... it's tiny sheet (from our pov) compared to the small details we can see in focus.

As to XIV I'm pretty sure it's the same rotating star pallete, but I dunno. I've seen the triangle twice now (both time quicky obscured by clouds), but I was really hoping there'd be something even semi-zodiac considering our dieties have a zodiac like symbol attributed to each of them.
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#5 Nov 22 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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PerrinofSylph wrote:
As to XIV I'm pretty sure it's the same rotating star pallete, but I dunno. I've seen the triangle twice now


Oh, really? That's rather disappointing; like you said, it's one of the easiest thing to replicate, so that would be lame if they didn't even bother to make a full sky. (._. )

Well, I'd still like to know for certain, though...
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KaneKitty wrote:
PerrinofSylph wrote:
As to XIV I'm pretty sure it's the same rotating star pallete, but I dunno. I've seen the triangle twice now


Oh, really? That's rather disappointing; like you said, it's one of the easiest thing to replicate, so that would be lame if they didn't even bother to make a full sky. (._. )

Well, I'd still like to know for certain, though...


How is a rotating star palette not a full sky? Our real sky is the same.
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
KaneKitty wrote:
PerrinofSylph wrote:
As to XIV I'm pretty sure it's the same rotating star pallete, but I dunno. I've seen the triangle twice now


Oh, really? That's rather disappointing; like you said, it's one of the easiest thing to replicate, so that would be lame if they didn't even bother to make a full sky. (._. )

Well, I'd still like to know for certain, though...


How is a rotating star palette not a full sky? Our real sky is the same.


I thought he was referring to a palette -- that is, a tile -- that was pasted over several times; because of this, I interpreted a "rotating palette" to be something like a copy/paste/rotate 30º technique. Then, when he said that "I've seen the triangle twice," I thought he meant that he had seen the formation of stars twice in different places on the "celestial sphere."

I think, with pleasure, that I may have misunderstood. This leads us back to the beginning, however... so, are the stars unique or not? XD




Edited, Nov 22nd 2010 6:59pm by KaneKitty
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#9 Nov 22 2010 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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It looks to me like the full circle is different. There are a few bright stars that are quite large. I actually think the sky is really well done, I love seeing the stars.

Funny enough I was also wondering about star lore. I'd love to see some.
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#10 Nov 22 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I enjoy looking up at the night sky too, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned how terrible objects up there rotate. It's in steps rather then smooth movement. This kills alot of the immersion for me.
#11 Nov 22 2010 at 9:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm so happy to see this thread! I've been trying to find constellations as well, and I'm pretty sure that they're there, but it's so difficult to get a clear sky and a good angle to get a really good view.

There are quite a few larger stars of different colors, and then the second small star/moon that is always right by the larger moon. I'm curious to know if one of the moons is the astral, and the other umbral, and if the smaller one orbits the larger and that's how we get the different phases? (Idle thinking, probably not much of anything to that one...)

I remember back in the Making of Eorzea #4 that they talked about developing the whole planet of Hydaelyn, its geography, climate, and its relation to other celestial bodies. I would be greatly surprised if there weren't constellations that had meaning.

Edited, Nov 22nd 2010 11:08pm by Serielley
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#13 Nov 22 2010 at 11:41 PM Rating: Good
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So it seems FFXIV does have a well-designed sky. Now I really really hope that it does well!

Honestly, I am very happy that they did not cut (and paste :P) corners on that, like so many others do!
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#14 Nov 22 2010 at 11:46 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, FFXIV has nice skies. Both day and night, much better than the ground.

Nothing holds a candle to Monster Hunter's night skies, though. They're absolutely stunning.
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#15 Nov 23 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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youthcom wrote:
I enjoy looking up at the night sky too, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned how terrible objects up there rotate. It's in steps rather then smooth movement. This kills alot of the immersion for me.


I used to see the same thing too. It'd look like there was just 3 screens for the 'star twinkling'/movement, and it would just cycle through the three. Then I got a new graphics card and looked at the sky again. Rather than have the 3 cylcing sets, the starts actually twinkled and slowly grew brighter/darker. They also slowly slid across the sky rather than the jerky motion it had before.
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#16 Nov 23 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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AshlarThePaladin wrote:
youthcom wrote:
I enjoy looking up at the night sky too, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned how terrible objects up there rotate. It's in steps rather then smooth movement. This kills alot of the immersion for me.


I used to see the same thing too. It'd look like there was just 3 screens for the 'star twinkling'/movement, and it would just cycle through the three. Then I got a new graphics card and looked at the sky again.


Hmm a specific GPU/driver issue? I just did a search & found a thread where couple ppl mention this same issue. http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=173&mid=129002415268733795

I'm using a GTX460 1GB with the latest drivers.
#17 Nov 23 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Excellent
No constellations but I have noticed a blue star that I always look for now.
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