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#1 Dec 03 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey lovelies!

We had a bit of a hiccup with our podcast getting posted this week, but it's all up there to see.

Gary and I talk about the updates, SP confusion, and what we're looking forward to with December.

Expect the standard banter.....and of course a GANNON CONSPIRACY THEORY.

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/video/xiv-17-november-rain/2010/11

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#2 Dec 03 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been following XIV pod cast since ep. 1. I like Kenzies enthusiasm toward the game, but Gary seems just out of touch with it. It's like watching good cop bad cop. but the bad cop has no clue whats going on and is slamming the witness based of assumptions and hear say.

I guess it's difficult creating a pod cast for a game one of the hosts barely plays. weird.
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#3 Dec 03 2010 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Really enjoyed this. Only strange thing was Gary going on about the SP change without testing it out.

Keep up the great work!
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#4 Dec 03 2010 at 3:44 PM Rating: Default
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Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.
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#5 Dec 03 2010 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I've been following XIV pod cast since ep. 1. I like Kenzies enthusiasm toward the game, but Gary seems just out of touch with it. It's like watching good cop bad cop. but the bad cop has no clue whats going on and is slamming the witness based of assumptions and hear say.

I guess it's difficult creating a pod cast for a game one of the hosts barely plays. weird.


I actually like the 2 different takes. Kenzie is a FF fan, while Gary's an MMO in general fan who has a broader view of things, and compares it to other games.
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#6 Dec 03 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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KujaKoF wrote:
SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I've been following XIV pod cast since ep. 1. I like Kenzies enthusiasm toward the game, but Gary seems just out of touch with it. It's like watching good cop bad cop. but the bad cop has no clue whats going on and is slamming the witness based of assumptions and hear say.

I guess it's difficult creating a pod cast for a game one of the hosts barely plays. weird.


I actually like the 2 different takes. Kenzie is a FF fan, while Gary's an MMO in general fan who has a broader view of things, and compares it to other games.


I would like the two different takes if it ever sounded like Gary actually plays the game. Like I said - I would much rather hear someone like Aurelius - who has taken his crafting way up there talk about the crafting system. Aur gripes plenty but I appreciate his point of view cause it is obvious he actually plays the game seriously. He's also given advice that I've taken and used to save myself thousands of gil (his comment about guild buffs doing nothing unless a specific facility is called for in the recipe was BANG on).
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#7 Dec 03 2010 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.


o.O

I actually find Gary to be entertaining as a host. He and Kenzie do a good job. Gary's rant went a little over the top in the last episode, but I'd probably be worse :P
#8 Dec 03 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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A bunch of ppl from the BBB decided to do some research of their own. This is what they came up with regarding the SP breakdown:

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?id=486

Check it out. It's an interesting read.
#9 Dec 03 2010 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Aurelius wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.


o.O

I actually find Gary to be entertaining as a host. He and Kenzie do a good job. Gary's rant went a little over the top in the last episode, but I'd probably be worse :P


DAMMIT AUR.
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When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.


#10 Dec 03 2010 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Aurelius wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.


o.O

I actually find Gary to be entertaining as a host. He and Kenzie do a good job. Gary's rant went a little over the top in the last episode, but I'd probably be worse :P


DAMMIT AUR.


inorite? But you should know by now that I was actually willed into existence for the sole purpose of dashing hopes and dreams. It's nothing personal. Just doin' mah job.
#11 Dec 03 2010 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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Kenz0r wrote:
A bunch of ppl from the BBB decided to do some research of their own. This is what they came up with regarding the SP breakdown:

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?id=486

Check it out. It's an interesting read.


Great info. Looks like leves are the way to go now.
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#12 Dec 03 2010 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Aurelius wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Aurelius wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.


o.O

I actually find Gary to be entertaining as a host. He and Kenzie do a good job. Gary's rant went a little over the top in the last episode, but I'd probably be worse :P


DAMMIT AUR.


inorite? But you should know by now that I was actually willed into existence for the sole purpose of dashing hopes and dreams. It's nothing personal. Just doin' mah job.


See, but even when you **** me off I am still amused
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When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.


#13 Dec 03 2010 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Kenz0r wrote:
A bunch of ppl from the BBB decided to do some research of their own. This is what they came up with regarding the SP breakdown:

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?id=486

Check it out. It's an interesting read.


Outside of leves, what we've seen so far suggests that killing mobs in groups splits the base SP award from that mob amongst the number of people in your party and then applies the party bonus to that. So if a mob you killed solo would have earned you 100SP, killing it in a duo would split the base SP between the two of you (50 SP each) and then the party bonus would be applied (~40% for a duo) netting 70 SP each. That doesn't account for differences between ranks amongst the players. The relevance is that people claiming there is no group bonus for non-leve grinding are simply wrong. They're seeing numbers lower than what they might like and are jumping to conclusions.

I think that SE is trying to encourage people to group for leves. I remember shortly after launch Komoto made a statement that players were doing a lot of their battlecraft leves solo and that the devs would like to see them used for sort of a group thing. I think the difficulty is that it's just too **** much coordination involved to make it a truly group-worthy kind of activity. Not from the combat perspective, but just sorting out who is initiating the leves and this and that and...people just want to play. I don't think it should be necessary to have a "strategy" briefing for basic mid-rank content just to get people on the same page about starting the leves much less what they're going to do when they get to the fighting.

There's a lot of streamlining that needs to be done, and I think also that when the devs make a major change like the one to the SP system with the November patch that they need to be a little more descriptive in just how the new system works. Their communication has been far and away better than it ever was in FFXI, but there's still room for improvement there, too.
#14 Dec 04 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Kenz0r you're awesome sauce - Gary is the weak link. I vote Aurelius for new host. That guy has lots of anger around the game but he actually plays it... so I bet he would do a better job. Plus that Aur is funny, Gary is not.


^^all this^^
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#15 Dec 04 2010 at 2:14 PM Rating: Default
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Gary's more of a critical thinker than Kenz, but they're still both not very critical. Gary brings something up that he's not totally happy with, and Kenzor says "but that's SE trying to make it different!" or "I dunno, I'm having fun." and that's how deep most of the 'critical discussions' go.

The legendary show is much more critical and interesting to watch due to critical thinking, even though it's not about FFXIV.
And even there, Gary just usually acts befuddled when the other guys say something involving critical thought, like he's more of a mediator than someone who actually digs deep. And when he does dig deep, he makes it sound silly by calling it a conspiracy theory, and behaving as if it's the most amazing thing he's ever told someone. Meanwhile it's not that big of a deal. He doesn't have too much to offer, I agree.

Are there any other FFXIV podcasts?



Edited, Dec 4th 2010 3:15pm by maxmad
#16 Dec 04 2010 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I like how everyone is sugar coating that they "dislike" gary by calling him the "weak link" or the "weak sauce"...imo Kenzy laughs way too much and half the time about nothing funny at all, and she's clearly a blind fan girl, Gary atleast keeps it real. The guy was legitly excited for the game before release and is still optimistic about it, but he's keeping things real - I can argue with Gary on many things but its not like he's flat out saying this game blows it has no living chance any more.
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#17 Dec 04 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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KujaKoF wrote:
SevenLittleChipmunks wrote:
I've been following XIV pod cast since ep. 1. I like Kenzies enthusiasm toward the game, but Gary seems just out of touch with it. It's like watching good cop bad cop. but the bad cop has no clue whats going on and is slamming the witness based of assumptions and hear say.

I guess it's difficult creating a pod cast for a game one of the hosts barely plays. weird.


I actually like the 2 different takes. Kenzie is a FF fan, while Gary's an MMO in general fan who has a broader view of things, and compares it to other games.



I don't mind the two different views on XIV. I welcome it. But Gary himself said something to the effect: "I haven't logged in, in two weeks" (not a direct quote) I just feel if you're making a weekly podcast, play the game at least that often if you're going to comment on it.

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#18 Dec 04 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Default
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Agreed about kenzie just being a fangirl. Gary's got at least a perspective that warrants being on a podcast, kenzie does not. Get any uncritical fanboy/girl who only sees their own point of view, and they'll say the same things kenzie does.
#19 Dec 04 2010 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
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maxmad wrote:
Agreed about kenzie just being a fangirl. Gary's got at least a perspective that warrants being on a podcast, kenzie does not. Get any uncritical fanboy/girl who only sees their own point of view, and they'll say the same things kenzie does.


They complement one another based on their views of the game, and even Kenzie said in the last podcast that she's playing way less than she might normally because there are so many issues that are sapping the entertainment value.

If you're going to have two people doing a podcast and both of them share the same views, you might as well just have one person. And if you're going to have two people with differing views, I'd rather one be neutral and disappointed and the other positive and disappointed than a neutral guy and a sniveling crybaby.
#20 Dec 04 2010 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Gary says something mildly critical, like "the targeting annoys me"
Kenzie says "they're trying to make it different, who knows!"
Gary says "bah alright next topic"
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