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#1 Dec 09 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Would it be too much to ask for Local leves to have an Icon that indicated what lvl they were so you didn't have to wade through all the level 1-10 leves to get to the level 25-30 leves your looking for? It's not like they put them in any specific order. Today I had 12 leves DoH with rank 1 on both ends and high level mixed in the middle... come on SE have you ever heard of common sense?

And while were on the subject of Leves, why not allow 8 DoL with 8 DoW and 8 DoH leves, totaling 24 leves in a 36 hour period. Why do they group DoL with DoW and don't with DoH? Is it just me or is this a no-brainer duh!!! separate the DoL and DoW liek you do the DOW and DoH Please.
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#2 Dec 09 2010 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still against the change that made it every 36 hours instead of 48Smiley: nod. Last thing I want is more leves every 36 hours. Not with ya on that 1.

I don't have too much issue finding the leves I want, though obviously it could be done in a less time-consuming way. An easier to use menu/window would be appreciated.

My biggest source of rage with local leves that you didn't mention is the random rewarding of guildmarks! I would simply have skipped so many unnecessary trips to Broken Water, Bluefog, 9 Ivies, etc. had I seen no marks would be granted beforehand.

Edited, Dec 9th 2010 8:35pm by TwistedOwl
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#3 Dec 09 2010 at 10:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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SWSeeker wrote:
Would it be too much to ask for Local leves to have an Icon that indicated what lvl they were so you didn't have to wade through all the level 1-10 leves to get to the level 25-30 leves your looking for? It's not like they put them in any specific order. Today I had 12 leves DoH with rank 1 on both ends and high level mixed in the middle... come on SE have you ever heard of common sense?

I can't find myself but agreeing with this part. Why can't they make local leves like the field leves so I can get the rank leves that I'm looking for, if they are available for that class in that town.
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#4 Dec 10 2010 at 1:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Local leve's should be designed exactly as battle leve's are designed. Each as a tier that opens up on reaching the appropriate rank and is always available.
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#5 Dec 10 2010 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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TwistedOwl wrote:
I'm still against the change that made it every 36 hours instead of 48Smiley: nod. Last thing I want is more leves every 36 hours. Not with ya on that 1.

I don't have too much issue finding the leves I want, though obviously it could be done in a less time-consuming way. An easier to use menu/window would be appreciated.

My biggest source of rage with local leves that you didn't mention is the random rewarding of guildmarks! I would simply have skipped so many unnecessary trips to Broken Water, Bluefog, 9 Ivies, etc. had I seen no marks would be granted beforehand.

Edited, Dec 9th 2010 8:35pm by TwistedOwl

Now that you mention it I'm 28 Carp and I have yet to see a single GM for carp other than the 20 quest reward, and that's hitting every city for locals when they come available. just hit 20 GS and i already have enough GMs for a book thats broken...
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#6 Dec 10 2010 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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I would rather they allow you to save up leves to a certain point if you can't use them on the 36 hour timer (like if you only did 4 regionals on the last timer - the next timer you could do 12) because I don't actually want to do leves every frigging time I log in. I would rather save up like 20 or so and do them all in 1 fell swoop.

I am not in favour of more leves on the current timer though because it will just create untenable inflation (or they will have to nerf rewards - which would suck for someone who can't do leves every reset).

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#7 Dec 10 2010 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I just wish my main craftng job available leves weren't spammed with rank 1-5s.
What possible reason would I have to want to do 5 rank 1 leves?
I'm not going to get sp, i REALLY don't need anymore copper or brass ingots, and 600gil is not something I'm going to give up 10 minutes of my time to get.

I'm rank 34, and I can travel to all 3 cities and maybe get 4 rank 20+ leves, and most 20-25 leves aren't getting me any SP worth talking about.
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#8 Dec 10 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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Restyoneck wrote:
I just wish my main craftng job available leves weren't spammed with rank 1-5s.
What possible reason would I have to want to do 5 rank 1 leves?
I'm not going to get sp, i REALLY don't need anymore copper or brass ingots, and 600gil is not something I'm going to give up 10 minutes of my time to get.

I'm rank 34, and I can travel to all 3 cities and maybe get 4 rank 20+ leves, and most 20-25 leves aren't getting me any SP worth talking about.


yeah... I keep thinking that if it is this bad at R27... ugh
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#9 Dec 10 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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perhaps they could add an difficulty adjustment to local leves, similar to the star system on battleleves.
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#10 Dec 10 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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Restyoneck wrote:
I just wish my main craftng job available leves weren't spammed with rank 1-5s.
What possible reason would I have to want to do 5 rank 1 leves?
I'm not going to get sp, i REALLY don't need anymore copper or brass ingots, and 600gil is not something I'm going to give up 10 minutes of my time to get.

I'm rank 34, and I can travel to all 3 cities and maybe get 4 rank 20+ leves, and most 20-25 leves aren't getting me any SP worth talking about.


I get the same bad selection of leves.
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#11 Dec 10 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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I would have to agree, I keep getting the same Leves every time I go to get them. Still in the teens in Rank on most of my Crafts, but Rank 1 leves give next to nothing in Gil, SP or XP thought the 30+ shrads at times are nice. Even the 3 to 4 crystals are nice, but on the other hand I get Rank 20 Leves that I fail each and every time so far. It is just so random thus far. For those that really only focus on a few Crafts, they must be miserable.
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#12 Dec 10 2010 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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My biggest problem with them is I have 2 crafts close to 20 but 99% of the time, rank 5 is the highest leve I can find for them at any city. its mostly just all rank 1 leves. And those are not even worth bothering with.
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#13 Dec 10 2010 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
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Restyoneck wrote:
I just wish my main craftng job available leves weren't spammed with rank 1-5s.
What possible reason would I have to want to do 5 rank 1 leves?
I'm not going to get sp, i REALLY don't need anymore copper or brass ingots, and 600gil is not something I'm going to give up 10 minutes of my time to get.

I'm rank 34, and I can travel to all 3 cities and maybe get 4 rank 20+ leves, and most 20-25 leves aren't getting me any SP worth talking about.


If you look at Quest database like YG, you can see that for certain classes like Carpenter, there is only 1 single leve for r40+ that is "Cane for Citizen", r45. The only other r35+ leve also happens to be "Cane for Citizen", r35. The intention is clear, they don't want you to rank up too fast :P

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 10:24pm by Khornette
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#14 Dec 10 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I did notice though, that the "higher" Rank leves are always behind the "??? wants ???" Leve that are the starting ones.

For example I get to choose between 7 Leves. Lets say the first 3 are Rank 1-10, then there is "Momodis Daggers" or w/e you want, and all after the Momodi one are Rank 20+.
It was this way for several leve resets on any craft for me that is Rank 20+. It didn't apply to crafts lower then 20 though.
#15 Dec 11 2010 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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According to the Leve Database here on ZAM, the Local Leves are suppose to rank up as you get higher. Take Quelling Bloody Rumors, a Weaver Rank 1 Leve in Gridania. It's info is:

Objectives and Rewards
Create and deliver the following items:
Rank Objectives Rewards
1 Hunting Tunic (Brown) x2 Moko Grass x3
20 Trapper's Tunic x3 Cotton Boll x3
30 Tracker's Tunic x4 Cotton Boll x4
40 Bowman's Tunic x5 Cotton Boll x5

But for me, it isn't ranking up at all and none of the others are as well. I am still only getting the Rank 1 Objectives. I am not sure if I have to be at Rank 20 for it to finally to rank up or not. When I hit Rank 15 I started to get some Rank 20 Leves.
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#16 Dec 11 2010 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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You need to be r15 for the r20 to have a chance to appear. A chance.
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#17 Dec 11 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I glade to see I'm not the only one seeing these annoyance with local leves.

1. grouping should be by level or camp or both.
2. Put the mark amount on the leve. Not a random turn in. I took me over 2 weeks of leve cycles to get my first wever marks.
3. Upgrade the lower leves to +/- 10 of our current rank. I too am sick of only finding 1 leve that is my level and its only in broken water while the rest are r1 or r5.

I did get my first book last night weaving trait is very nice.
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#18 Dec 11 2010 at 7:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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I know I'm the very slim minority, but I like the fact that we are riddled with low rank leves, and this is why;

I don't think we should be able to rank up to 50 on EVERY craft for free... If everyone can easily rank up to 50 on crafts relatively fast with NO expenses whatsoever, then there will be nothing special about having a craft at max rank. It is actually too late anyways, we can already reach max craft ranks for virtually free. In FFXI, if you had a craft at 100, that was something special and could sometimes be very profitable. In 14, it will be worthless to max crafting ranks. Oh wait, you can repair you and your friends' gear!!!!!! wow

I know, I know, everyone wants to fight colibri from rank 1-50, unlimited anima, 500 SP per mob, mobs that die in 5 hits, lower all exp and sp required to rank up reduced to virtually nothing, rank up all craft jobs for free, I get it. I just don't like kid games that are made on easy mode so that everyone can 'win' I like a challenge, and I want to have to work hard and long to reach max level/rank. There is a much bigger appreciation and sense of pride when you actually have to put a lot of time and resources into something.

Now I will be quiet, because 0.0001% of people agree with this.
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