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#1 Dec 10 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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First of all, I would like to apologize for our inability to fully satisfy our users with the initial release of FINAL FANTASY XIV. I take full responsibility for the game's current situation, and have therefore made the decision to step down from my role as producer. A number of concerns that have been voiced by users, such as the design of the user interface, availability of tutorials and game content, and battle system functionality, represent key issues that must be addressed. While improvements are already well underway in many areas, we were unfortunately not able to incorporate player feedback as quickly as we would have liked. We are aware, however, that in many cases, addressing these issues will call for a reworking of game elements. As these changes are our first priority, they will be commanding our full attention and efforts. It is to that end that we have put a new organizational structure into place for the development team. Under this new system, FINAL FANTASY XIV will see changes and additions in line with the desires and expectations of players. Though no longer producer, I will be continuing to support the development team in other capacities, and personally hope that you will continue your adventures in the realm of Eorzea.


Hiromichi Tanaka

A lot of people seem to think Hiromichi Tanaka
lost his job but he is ok and well still working on the FFXIV project/ Supporting the Dev team.
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#2 Dec 10 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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People are just extremely jaded towards him. He clearly didn't lose his job, just position on the FFXIV project. It's like saying Uematsu lost his job at Square.
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#3 Dec 10 2010 at 12:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Perhaps he should tighten his job, to be safe?
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#4mitmystria, Posted: Dec 10 2010 at 12:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) he resigned so he dont get fired, guess he a worker again.
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mitmystria wrote:
he resigned so he dont get fired, guess he a worker again.

wonder who's taking his spot.

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 1:57pm by mitmystria
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....really? Did you read the post?
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mitmystria wrote:
he resigned so he dont get fired, guess he a worker again.

wonder who's taking his spot.

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 1:57pm by mitmystria



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#7 Dec 10 2010 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Perhaps he should tighten his job, to be safe?


Lol awesome, internet high five for you good sir! :P

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#8 Dec 10 2010 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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how loose WAS it?

P.S. Loose = lose and you emphasized the wrong word?

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 5:34pm by SolidMack
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#9 Dec 10 2010 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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SolidMack wrote:
how loose WAS it?

P.S. Loose = lose and you emphasized the wrong word?

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 5:34pm by SolidMack


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mitmystria wrote:
he resigned so he dont get fired, guess he a worker again.

wonder who's taking his spot.

Edited, Dec 10th 2010 1:57pm by mitmystria


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It is naive to believe the words they published was 100% what has happened internally. Ever heard of PR?
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It is naive to believe the words they published was 100% what has happened internally. Ever heard of PR?


Yeah, I'm sure he was "asked to resign" from the position. i.e. "step down or you're fired". I'm sure it wasn't "I think I'm doing a bad job, I'm going to let someone else do it"
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I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".

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I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".



Agreed.
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#16 Dec 10 2010 at 11:43 PM Rating: Default
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He gave me the feeling that he would have been able to handle the situation well enough as-is. But I don't think he was fired because of that, but because of the past 5 years.
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#17 Dec 11 2010 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Just wanted to point out the wrong word is capped in the title...
Sorry couldn't help myself.
#18Frebaut, Posted: Dec 11 2010 at 3:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The wrong words were not caped wrong in the title. I did it to symbolize that he was not fired from ffxiv. The thread i was reading and most people that were writing in it thought he was fired from ffxiv. So i thought i would cap the the word that lead you to believe he was fired cause everyone/ most thought he was. Some get it and most did not. I guess your in the ones who didn't get it.
#19 Dec 11 2010 at 3:15 AM Rating: Good
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Frebaut wrote:
The wrong words were not caped wrong in the title. I did it to symbolize that he was not fired from ffxiv. The thread i was reading and most people that were writing in it thought he was fired from ffxiv. So i thought i would cap the the word that lead you to believe he was fired cause everyone/ most thought he was. Some get it and most did not. I guess your in the ones who didn't get it.


I really don't care one way or the other since I understood what you meant but if you're going to capitalize letters it should have been; "Hiromichi Tanaka did NOT lose his job" or "Hiromichi Tanaka DID NOT lose his job".
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#20 Dec 11 2010 at 7:44 AM Rating: Default
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Sasorex wrote:
I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".

This is Japan. Traditionally, Japanese "salarymen" put their company's interests above their own. In exchange, they have lifetime employment. In fact their company is their real family, even more than their wife and their kids. And don't forget about honor, stories of samurai doing seppuku may be unfounded but they are bound to leave a trace.

This is changing but the spirit is still there, so it is not unlikely that he did step down voluntarily.
Another thing is that we don't know how much power he retained, maybe he is still in charge and it was just a PR move.
#21 Dec 11 2010 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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he kinda did though. He was the producer/project manager (or whatever fancy job title he had) of FFXIV, and now he is not. It kinda sounds like he doesn't have a job title anymore, and hes simply stating that he is willing to offer his services to the new team should they want it.

However you are right that he was not fired from square enix.

Edited, Dec 11th 2010 9:15am by KujaKoF
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#22 Dec 11 2010 at 9:21 AM Rating: Default
Who cares if hes serving coffee right now? hes the sucker that made this piece of ****
#23 Dec 11 2010 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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gub42 wrote:
Sasorex wrote:
I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".

This is Japan. Traditionally, Japanese "salarymen" put their company's interests above their own. In exchange, they have lifetime employment. In fact their company is their real family, even more than their wife and their kids. And don't forget about honor, stories of samurai doing seppuku may be unfounded but they are bound to leave a trace.

This is changing but the spirit is still there, so it is not unlikely that he did step down voluntarily.
Another thing is that we don't know how much power he retained, maybe he is still in charge and it was just a PR move.


^This.

Japanese cooperations seldomly fire their employee unless its massive layoff in financial crisis. They just wont give him important job, moving his desk next to a window and let him look through the window 9am-5pm.
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gub42 wrote:
Sasorex wrote:
I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".

This is Japan. Traditionally, Japanese "salarymen" put their company's interests above their own. In exchange, they have lifetime employment. In fact their company is their real family, even more than their wife and their kids. And don't forget about honor, stories of samurai doing seppuku may be unfounded but they are bound to leave a trace.

This is changing but the spirit is still there, so it is not unlikely that he did step down voluntarily.
Another thing is that we don't know how much power he retained, maybe he is still in charge and it was just a PR move.


Those "stories" are not "unfounded".
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#25 Dec 13 2010 at 2:15 AM Rating: Default
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The man has some senority..I'm sure after much group debate (he, they,etc. ) all came to agreement to give someone else the steering wheel. My main concern instead of big-whigs tossing ideas around are the younger developers that they are passing the torch to in terms of tweaking game etc. Do you guys recall the younger japanese men in the videos (pre-XIV release). I'm not saying they're to blame for the game's issues but I have strong feeling that this could be a root source of the series' underlying problems (inexperienced, unfamiliarity to style, etc.) I recall only seeing 1 or 2 younger developers in an early video and correct me if I am wrong but I think the younger game developers might be "half-arsing" it. It just makes sense to me in the grand scheme of things but its really only a guess.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 3:18am by Razeoul
#26 Dec 13 2010 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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isnt Tanaka vice president of SE or something, so its not like he lost his job at SE just this specific position in the game
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#27 Dec 13 2010 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry. I don't believe for one second that he voluntarily "stepped down".

I agree with this as well. This is the way things are done. The higher ups will allow a person to "Step Down" to save face. This is also the Jp world honor and respect and all that jazz. A man who worked well for them for many years deserves at least to be allowed to "step down" and then "work for them in other aspects" Notice he doesn't say which? This man was fired. Maybe they do have him now righting the story line but I doubt its any where near what it was..
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Frebaut wrote:

The wrong words were not caped wrong in the title. I did it to symbolize that he was not fired from ffxiv. The thread i was reading and most people that were writing in it thought he was fired from ffxiv. So i thought i would cap the the word that lead you to believe he was fired cause everyone/ most thought he was. Some get it and most did not. I guess your in the ones who didn't get it.


The inflection is still wrong.

It doesn't really matter though - since I get the feeling that you and many others in this thread have never worked in the corporate world. Folks in high-ranking positions are seldom outright fired. A "suggestion" is made to the individual in the presence of HR, and the individual is given a choice to voluntarily step down or be fired - and folks almost always choose the former so that they can spin it on their resume as a positive.

I'm in shock over it though - I came here to see if the "miracle patch" has come down yet and instead I see that "Team Tanaka" has been disbanded.

Although - I for one welcome the changes. You can't teach an old dog new tricks and all that rot.
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I'm in shock over it though - I came here to see if the "miracle patch" has come down yet and instead I see that "Team Tanaka" has been disbanded.


Seems that the former director did an alright job, though, considering his role didn't change much, if at all. I think he wasn't really a director in the first place though, and Wada realized this. At least according to himself, his time was used solving problems that occurred in the development instead of looking at the big picture.

And if he's better off doing that than actually leading the project, I think it's good that his talent is not going to waste by actually firing him. I also think it is good that the director and producer are the same guy, since that way handling the budget, schedules and actual development probably becomes easier. He knows the big picture both budegt and development-wise, and he also has co-director helping him.
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