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#1 Dec 12 2010 at 5:41 AM Rating: Default
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Im not sure if there is already a thread like this I checked the first two pages but couldnt find one.

Currently I feel there is no point in leveling my marauder which is lvl 30 any further. I feel weaker I seem to be doing less dmg and fights in general are abit harder (which I do enjoy forcing me to use more of my skills rather than spamming the same one over and over adding abit more variety to battle)

But then I party up with my ls friends for leves some DoW like my self but they leave and its just me and the DoM classes left and I begin to notice how powerful they realy are. At the same lvl they have close to 1k hp and similiar defense to myself. Their dart hits the same as my Heavy swing which takes a large chunk of my stamina and the spells they drop for similiar or a good chunk more than my tp skill which they can drop when they feel like not to mention they can heal themselves and and have spells like protect and shell.

They have alot of other spells to help them if they are in trouble, gravity, slow, sleep, para etc etc you get the idea.
Ive died and ran back to a fight to find the mages still alive and well and killing the mobs with no trouble since they dont have to waste time and mp trying to keep me alive.

As marauder I have a few AoE attacks .... which as of late I feel the range is shorter ( that could just be my imagination I havnt tested that theory yet)

Am I the only person who feels that currently DoW is lack luster?
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#2 Dec 12 2010 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
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The battle system is mainly based on weapon skills,not classes,
I think people should lv up at least 2 battle classes

Your physic level is lower than your friends thats why you did less damage,less health

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Edited, Dec 12th 2010 7:07am by shandavine
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#3 Dec 12 2010 at 5:56 AM Rating: Default
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I think SE simply needs to make mages conserve MP during leves. Right now you can pretty much spam anything you want and not run out of mp during a leve.

I think the problem will sort itself out in time.
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#4 Dec 12 2010 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
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one of the DoM im refering to is much higher than me in physical lvl he is near 50 because he crafts alot and I understand this but my conjurer friend is only maybe 2 or 3 physical levels above me should that make such a drastic difference and I do lvl different DoW im in the middle or lvling lancer and I have most other jobs to at least 10
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#5 Dec 12 2010 at 6:06 AM Rating: Good
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Marauders are kind of ****** until they get expose side.

And 35-50, DoM DPS really, really drops.

And yeah. You need physical levels. Marauders have the highest VIT:HP ratio in the entire game.
#6 Dec 12 2010 at 6:45 AM Rating: Good
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Meowshi wrote:
Marauders are kind of sh*tty until they get expose side.

Is this because of Maim's potency, duration, or both? I had stopped Marauder at 31, but if it's significant.. I should probably take it to 36 for Maim (and then eventually 40 for Axemanship, I guess).
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#7 Dec 12 2010 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes physical lvls do help but I thought the class lvl caps the stats anyway, so even if you have extra physical wont the bonus of that be reduced by class ?
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#8 Dec 12 2010 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
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Different mobs have different weakness.
Monkeys take more damage by blunt attack,
Roseling take more damage by slash,piercing good on insects etc..
the damage gap can be 15-20%
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#9 Dec 12 2010 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Class rank caps determine the cap, but you need physical levels to reach the cap.

Just rank up another DoW, you'd gain other actions that may be useful.
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#10 Dec 12 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Default
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Reroll DoM :)
#11 Dec 12 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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ThePropagation wrote:
Im not sure if there is already a thread like this I checked the first two pages but couldnt find one.

Currently I feel there is no point in leveling my marauder which is lvl 30 any further. I feel weaker I seem to be doing less dmg and fights in general are abit harder (which I do enjoy forcing me to use more of my skills rather than spamming the same one over and over adding abit more variety to battle)

But then I party up with my ls friends for leves some DoW like my self but they leave and its just me and the DoM classes left and I begin to notice how powerful they realy are. At the same lvl they have close to 1k hp and similiar defense to myself. Their dart hits the same as my Heavy swing which takes a large chunk of my stamina and the spells they drop for similiar or a good chunk more than my tp skill which they can drop when they feel like not to mention they can heal themselves and and have spells like protect and shell.

They have alot of other spells to help them if they are in trouble, gravity, slow, sleep, para etc etc you get the idea.

Ive died and ran back to a fight to find the mages still alive and well and killing the mobs with no trouble since they dont have to waste time and mp trying to keep me alive.

As marauder I have a few AoE attacks .... which as of late I feel the range is shorter ( that could just be my imagination I havnt tested that theory yet)

Am I the only person who feels that currently DoW is lack luster?


Ummm... so let me get this straight. You are trying to compare your level 30 Marauder with no other DoW classes leveled to Conjurer who has Thaumaturge leveled? Of course you'd be weaker. That's like comparing a BLM/WHM or BLM/RDM to a WAR with no subjob....
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#12 Dec 13 2010 at 4:16 AM Rating: Good
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@ Shinichoco, If you had decided to read further down you would have seen my other post stating I do have other DoW jobs lvled mainly lancer atm ( getting it to 20 and nearly there ) but Ive lvled pugilist and glad to 10( and plan to take them higher once ive finished with lancer ) along with most other classes to a similar lvl so its not like ive marauder and nothing but marauder

I do have 3 or more skills depending on what im doing brought over from other DoW classes on my skill bar at any given time so now im not comparing Marauder alone to people who have more than one job lvled ( the conj in question has lvled thau for drain mp etc but my thau friend with the high physical lvl has not lvled any other DoM job as of yet but plans to )

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 5:16am by ThePropagation
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#13 Dec 13 2010 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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The way I read your post you were comparing the two, then decided to level the jobs.

Also, it will be hard for your friend to level other DoM jobs... because there are only two of them at the moment and will likely remain so for a good long while. Also, I don't know what it's like at higher levels, but as a mage class leveling with others my level... I am often one shotted through stoneskin and protect if something goes awry and a mob decides it's going to use a TP attack on me or the tank turns a mob that has an AoE and it ends up using it when the tank decides to stand in front of me. I have been one shotted because of tanks turning the mob towards me on the puks in Nanawa Mines waaaay too often. As a Thaum with the best gear I can make at optimal level for myself, I have about half the HP of the DoWs in my party... that's with VIT nearly as high as my INT. As a conjurer I have even less...
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