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#1 Dec 13 2010 at 9:02 AM Rating: Decent
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i love the FF games but atm do not have a pc that can even come close to running this game. im sure this thread has been done more times than anyone would like but idk what else to do. i know almost nothing about computers and keep reading about how you can make a good gaming pc for around $400. if anyone has a link or something that can show me how to do this that would be great. i really want to play this game but dont have the $800 or so to buy a premade system.
#2 Dec 13 2010 at 9:31 AM Rating: Good
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Before this gets flamed to Hades and back I would like to direct you to the 30+ page behemoth on building computers here:
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=127800602941853800&page=1

With all the holiday deals being held at Newegg.com, I am fairly confident that you should be able to build a decent rig that will run FFXIV for ~$400 or so.
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#3 Dec 13 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Default
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An expensive one lol..
I thought my 2 years old computer was decent, I could play many other games that are also on Ps3.. but the loading issues with FFXIV remained even after the update.. :/

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 10:48am by KaineGestalt
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#4 Dec 13 2010 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I doubt you're going to be able to put together something decent for $400 without already having most of the parts outside of the mobo/cpu/ram/gpu. You could probably squeak by on low settings best case scenario.

It's not worth it anyway.
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#5 Dec 13 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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i am looking at the SYX SG1010 MMO gaming pc it is a little more than i wanted to spent at $750 but seems to have everything i need as well as possible upgrades.. i think. i read into building one and it is just a little over my head and i feel it will end up costing me more when i buy wrong parts and so on. but i think this pc might be what im looking for just reading all the reviews i can to see if its a decent pc or not.

what do you think is better


iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 557D3 Gaming PC

or

SYX SG1010 MMO gaming pc

both seem about the same to me but use different cpus and i dont know anything about cpus

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 1:08pm by elevens
#6 Dec 13 2010 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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I Googled both of those machines and personally, I'd go with the 'iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 557D3'.
The raw power of the 3.4ghz Phenom vs. 2.8ghz Athlon more than makes up for the difference between the graphics cards (5670 and 5770 respectively).
Either way though, if your goal is to play the game with all settings set at maximum, you're still falling short of the mark. Either of these systems will play the game 'well' with settings set to standard however.

Really though, spending ~$800 just to play FFXIV even knowing what state that the game is in?
I <3 the game personally and have spent well over $1000 on my PC, but it is also my home media computer hooked up to the living room TV.

IMHO, putting down that kind of cash just to play FFXIV at this point is kinda risky. You may be better off waiting a few months to see how these new up-and-coming changes work out.
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#7 Dec 13 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Validai wrote:
I Googled both of those machines and personally, I'd go with the 'iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 557D3'.
The raw power of the 3.4ghz Phenom vs. 2.8ghz Athlon more than makes up for the difference between the graphics cards (5670 and 5770 respectively).
Either way though, if your goal is to play the game with all settings set at maximum, you're still falling short of the mark. Either of these systems will play the game 'well' with settings set to standard however.

Really though, spending ~$800 just to play FFXIV even knowing what state that the game is in?
I <3 the game personally and have spent well over $1000 on my PC, but it is also my home media computer hooked up to the living room TV.

IMHO, putting down that kind of cash just to play FFXIV at this point is kinda risky. You may be better off waiting a few months to see how these new up-and-coming changes work out.



yeah i know ffxiv isnt in the best of place right now but i also have a 4-5 year old pc that was the cheapest one form best buy so it wont hurt to get a decent one that will last me a while. but as far as being able to play on max settings i have no itentions of being close to that, with thge pc i have every game i have ever playe dneeded ot be on lowest setting so any upgrade will be good.

thank you for looking up both of these pc's for me tho there is a lot of information that i just do not understand. one more question if you dont mind since you have an idea about both pc's what one do you think will be easier upgraded if i ever wanted to?
#8 Dec 13 2010 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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You cannot make a good gaming PC for around $400 from scratch. You may be able to upgrade an existing PC for $400 depending on what you need to buy, but building a new one, from scratch, that will play FFXIV well, will run you at least $750-850. If you're buying through a customized vendor like ibuypower, cyberpower, tigerdirect, you might be looking at $850-1000. If you're buying from a retailer or directly from a manufacturer, $1000+.

If you tell me what you already have, I can provide suggestions on what to upgrade, however my answer is PROBABLY going to be the same it is for everyone else:

CPU: i5 or better or Phenom II X4 or better ($120-250 or higher)
RAM: 4 GB DDR3 or better ($80-120 or higher)
GPU: GTX 460 or better or Radeon HD 5770 or better ($150-200 or higher)
Motherboard: Something compatible with these parts. ($70-120 or higher)
Power Supply: 650W or better, depending on what GPU you're getting. ($80-125 or higher)

Every one of these types of threads usually turns into me arguing back and forth with someone who insists that their dual core system with a GeForce GT "runs it great" or something... whatever.

I suggest these parts to you with complete confidence that it will run FFXIV will, on near max setting (max will cost you more; i7, GTX480/Radeon5870 or higher, etc) with a great frame rate. If you're buying a new system, in general, it's best to overshoot on performance parts so that you have room for improvement, not scrape by on something that is just barely good enough which you'll want to replace again in a year or two.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 2:22pm by Mikhalia
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#9 Dec 13 2010 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
You cannot make a good gaming PC for around $400 from scratch. You may be able to upgrade an existing PC for $400 depending on what you need to buy, but building a new one, from scratch, that will play FFXIV well, will run you at least $750-850. If you're buying through a customized vendor like ibuypower, cyberpower, tigerdirect, you might be looking at $850-1000. If you're buying from a retailer or directly from a manufacturer, $1000+.

If you tell me what you already have, I can provide suggestions on what to upgrade, however my answer is PROBABLY going to be the same it is for everyone else:

CPU: i5 or better or Phenom II X4 or better ($120-250 or higher)
RAM: 4 GB DDR3 or better ($80-120 or higher)
GPU: GTX 460 or better or Radeon HD 5770 or better ($150-200 or higher)
Motherboard: Something compatible with these parts. ($70-120 or higher)
Power Supply: 650W or better, depending on what GPU you're getting. ($80-125 or higher)

Every one of these types of threads usually turns into me arguing back and forth with someone who insists that their dual core system with a GeForce GT "runs it great" or something... whatever.

I suggest these parts to you with complete confidence that it will run FFXIV will, on near max setting (max will cost you more; i7, GTX480/Radeon5870 or higher, etc) with a great frame rate. If you're buying a new system, in general, it's best to overshoot on performance parts so that you have room for improvement, not scrape by on something that is just barely good enough which you'll want to replace again in a year or two.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 2:22pm by Mikhalia



i am the last person that will argue anything like this with anyone since i know basically nothing but right now i have this.


compaq presario SR5505F

AMD athlon X2 4200 dual core processor

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE

i think 3gb of memory "had 2 then i took out one stick and replaced with a 2gb stick"

and just 160gb hard drive

im guessing it is not possible to upgrade since from what i have read good video cards are big and this case is kind of small.


im looking into buying an iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 557D3 Gaming PC i found them for 759.00 and that seems liek a decent price from what i have read and am starting to understand.


also i am not looking to run on max settings just a playable setting on a pc i can afford.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 2:34pm by elevens
#10 Dec 13 2010 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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Looking at this link

It looks like a very good system, but I would upgrade the included 5670 to a 5770. Other than that, the rest of the specs look good and it should run XIV very well. CPU is good, PSU is good, RAM is good.

The upgrade from a 5670 to a 5770 is a HUGE upgrade in performance.
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#11 Dec 13 2010 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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elevens wrote:
compaq presario SR5505F

AMD athlon X2 4200 dual core processor

NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE

i think 3gb of memory "had 2 then i took out one stick and replaced with a 2gb stick"

and just 160gb hard drive

With those specs you'd be better off just building a machine from scratch than upgrading.
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#12 Dec 13 2010 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Looking at this link

It looks like a very good system, but I would upgrade the included 5670 to a 5770. Other than that, the rest of the specs look good and it should run XIV very well. CPU is good, PSU is good, RAM is good.

The upgrade from a 5670 to a 5770 is a HUGE upgrade in performance.

Agreed, that Phenom II 965 is a pretty nice processor. It's a real workhorse for the price. Two of my friends and I all upgraded to that CPU at about the same time. Without any changes that rig looks like it'll do the job, but you probably will want to look into replacing the video card, as FFXIV is graphically intense as others have stated.
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#13 Dec 13 2010 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Looking at this link

It looks like a very good system, but I would upgrade the included 5670 to a 5770. Other than that, the rest of the specs look good and it should run XIV very well. CPU is good, PSU is good, RAM is good.

The upgrade from a 5670 to a 5770 is a HUGE upgrade in performance.



cool i think im sold on it then as far as upgrading that may come in time since i really only want to spend 400 and 760 is almost double. but if i made my last pc last this long i think this one will last me for many many years.

thanks for your help
#14 Dec 13 2010 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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elevens wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Looking at this link

It looks like a very good system, but I would upgrade the included 5670 to a 5770. Other than that, the rest of the specs look good and it should run XIV very well. CPU is good, PSU is good, RAM is good.

The upgrade from a 5670 to a 5770 is a HUGE upgrade in performance.



cool i think im sold on it then as far as upgrading that may come in time since i really only want to spend 400 and 760 is almost double. but if i made my last pc last this long i think this one will last me for many many years.

thanks for your help


Yeah, computers are cheap, but gaming computers can be pricey. You can save money and get it done for under a grand if you know what to get and where to get it, but $400-500 computers are good for basic web/email and some flash games at best. Might be able to manage some older titles but high end games on respectable settings will require you to shell out a bit more cash. On the plus side, you can run older titles (Fallout 3, Oblivion, Unreal Tournament 3, Doom 3, Civilization IV) on max settings. :)

The most important thing is that you're happy with your purchasing decision, and I hope that you are, once you're done.
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