Forum Settings
       
This Forum is Read Only

EDITORIAL: Eorzea Ripe for RecruitingFollow

#1 Dec 14 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Excellent
So, anything going on in FFXIV lately?

I figure the issues regarding the game's development team have been discussed enough in the forums, and my opinions on the matter have already been voiced by many others. That said, I thought I'd bring up a different topic for this week's editorial -- the state of linkshells in Eorzea.

On my server, many linkshells were ravaged by the exodus of players from this game. Recently, it seems players have finally began mobilizing into new, bigger groups. This is somewhat sad, seeing as how so many players (myself included) had planned on playing this game with old friends. However, this phenomenon is also very exciting. Being surrounded by new faces in a new game is an instant recipe for adventure.

Anyway, here is my editorial: http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=24471

Kudos to Elmer for the art.

Discuss here!
____________________________
Thayos Redblade
Jormungandr
Hyperion
#2 Dec 14 2010 at 9:38 PM Rating: Excellent
I've given up on my friends playing this game, so I did try to seek out new shells through forums and such. So far, not much luck. Seems the shells recruit in large numbers, people are excited, get parties going, then a week or two later, you're down to 3-4 members. This process seems to repeat itself over, and over. It affects my game play to boot since I get bored, and stop logging on. Couple weeks later, get an itch to play, find a new shell, and the same thing happens.

Every time I join up, leader assures me: "Nah, this shell is going strong, we ALWAYS have people online, been like this for awhile." Never fails though, it eventually breaks down. So I think I'm just accepted the fact that I'll be waiting until PS3 release to join a new forming shell and hope it sticks around.
____________________________

#3 Dec 14 2010 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
*
115 posts
A successful linkshell can only thrive under good leadership and devoted members. Serenity has had a lot of luck with this. Though we've lost a few, we've gained a lot more. Ever since the beginning our numbers have only grown!

I think the trick is getting people involved, actively talking to people, and being on the LS. It sounds simple, but a lot of LS Leaders and officers think that LS's can just run themselves. They just can't.

Serenity has a website that we constantly use for out of game communication and events planned all the time. We even have members that are always on our chat box while they're at work and unable to play. We have galleries, a place to ask for different ingredients, offer different ingredients, and a calander where we post people's birthdays and upcoming events.

Events keep people involved, get people to meet each other and talk, and remind members that we're not just a group of friends that can be easily forgotten. We're an organization that brings even more fun to the game. Some of our events are small, like behest, a grinding party, or a crafting party (yes, these are fun and simple... just sit with each other as you craft) Some events are much bigger, and don't even require SE to come up with the ideas, like our most recent Secret Santa/Christmas Party and our upcoming Amazing Race: Eorzea.

Unfortunately, this game lacks a lot of what many people want; at least for now. Serenity, however, has done what we can to fill in those gaps while we wait for SE to catch up.



Edited, Dec 14th 2010 9:07pm by Joscerelle
____________________________
FFXIV (Joscerelle Faire) - Officer of Serenity LS - www.SerenityLS.com
Goldsmith23, Mining20, Archer16
I wear pink... that's what I do.

FFXI (Retired)
SMN75, BLM54, WHM40, BRD31, PLD25,
Cooking 100+2, Clothcraft 40
Sellius (MULE) Clothcraft 61, Leathercraft 20, Goldsmithing 12
#4 Dec 14 2010 at 10:11 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
*
169 posts
Yeah, it's been sad seeing so many shells break up and people leave. My LS has survived up to this point, but certainly not unscathed. Right now I think we have around 8-10 logging on regularly, with 3 or so who are very casual so they only log on maybe once a week. That's about half of our roster. That said, we do still have fun and run some leve parties and stuff with the ones who do log on. Right now 2 of them are off fishing in Thanalan together. We did get one new member today who also happens to be a brand new player, so it seems that there are a few new people coming in. I'm hoping that people might start coming back once the game gets fixed up a bit more.

One thing I noticed that seems to kill off shells/guilds the fastest in MMOs is when the leadership vanishes. I've been in otherwise active shells/guilds, but once the leaders leave, the other members follow suit leaving a dead LS in their wake. Perhaps having some leaders stick around might help with LS survival.

Since this is all about shells, I'm afraid I can't pass up an opportunity for a shameless plug: If you are on Rabanastre and looking around for a nice, smaller sized social LS, look me up. As the leader, I plan to stick around for quite some time. I have details posted in the Rab sub-forum and also have our page set up on Lodestone. I'm not entirely sure how to search for it on Lodestone, but it's there nonetheless.
____________________________
Variety is the spice of life. Except on Dune, where it's worm poo.

#5 Dec 14 2010 at 10:15 PM Rating: Excellent
In my opinion, it's not just having leaders who are online... I think it's just as important, if not more so, to have a regular core group of players who log in. Having that core group is what gives your linkshell that "Cheers" feeling, where everyone knows your name. Without a good core, a linkshell is just a bunch of strangers. An active core group will make the linkshell whole.

Edited, Dec 14th 2010 8:16pm by Thayos
____________________________
Thayos Redblade
Jormungandr
Hyperion
#6 Dec 14 2010 at 10:24 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
*
169 posts
That's true, but that core has to be willing to work with the other members as well. I was once apart of a LS in XI who had a core of RL friends. The problem was that they basically ignored all the other members. I talked to another one of my friends in there about it and told him that they pretty much ignore me. His answer: "That's okay, they ignore me too." I left shortly after that.

Having a solid core of members can be a great benefit, but that core really needs to support the rest of the shell, rather than lock them out of their little group.
____________________________
Variety is the spice of life. Except on Dune, where it's worm poo.

#7 Dec 14 2010 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
*
115 posts
Quote:
That's true, but that core has to be willing to work with the other members as well. I was once apart of a LS in XI who had a core of RL friends. The problem was that they basically ignored all the other members. I talked to another one of my friends in there about it and told him that they pretty much ignore me. His answer: "That's okay, they ignore me too." I left shortly after that.

Having a solid core of members can be a great benefit, but that core really needs to support the rest of the shell, rather than lock them out of their little group.


I completely agree. If the 'core' group of members isn't ready and willing to accept new members in automatically a HUGE problem can arise. Suddenly, the LS is deadlocked with no where to go. The core members and leadership wonder why they can't keep new members; well the answer is obvious. They're too tight knit and people aren't feeling welcome.

Edited, Dec 14th 2010 9:28pm by Joscerelle
____________________________
FFXIV (Joscerelle Faire) - Officer of Serenity LS - www.SerenityLS.com
Goldsmith23, Mining20, Archer16
I wear pink... that's what I do.

FFXI (Retired)
SMN75, BLM54, WHM40, BRD31, PLD25,
Cooking 100+2, Clothcraft 40
Sellius (MULE) Clothcraft 61, Leathercraft 20, Goldsmithing 12
#8 Dec 15 2010 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
Scholar
*
113 posts
Joscerelle wrote:
Quote:
That's true, but that core has to be willing to work with the other members as well. I was once apart of a LS in XI who had a core of RL friends. The problem was that they basically ignored all the other members. I talked to another one of my friends in there about it and told him that they pretty much ignore me. His answer: "That's okay, they ignore me too." I left shortly after that.

Having a solid core of members can be a great benefit, but that core really needs to support the rest of the shell, rather than lock them out of their little group.


I completely agree. If the 'core' group of members isn't ready and willing to accept new members in automatically a HUGE problem can arise. Suddenly, the LS is deadlocked with no where to go. The core members and leadership wonder why they can't keep new members; well the answer is obvious. They're too tight knit and people aren't feeling welcome.

Edited, Dec 14th 2010 9:28pm by Joscerelle


Hey, that sounds just like Serenity.

It was rough finding a linkshell that didn't succumb to the large amount of people coming and, more often than not, going, but I managed to find one. Honestly, without looking at the list, I couldn't tell you who the leader of my shell is. With there being no real focus at the moment, the shell manages to run itself. Anyone is welcome to start a leve/sp party, and it seems to work. We've picked up quite a few members from failing linkshells. I can only hope that more people return to the game looking for a new place to call home--we'll be waiting.

In my opinion, the company of one another is what is keeping our shell strong. I couldn't imagine trying to play this game in silence.
____________________________
FFXI: Fenrir
#9 Dec 15 2010 at 12:26 AM Rating: Good
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

When I first started playing, I didn't really get into a Linkshell until I posted an application for one after checking the ZAM server forums. The LS (Thanalan Alliance) is still reasonably active, although our number of online players at the times we play (GMT +8 - GMT+12) now hovers at about 8-12 people out of 88, meaning we really only have 10% of our LS on during the weekdays, including the people who are also in other Linkshells. Most importantly, however, our LS leader is on every day, so there's a cohesion there that sticks us together.

Contrasting this is the other LS that I'm in, The Invictus Codex, which, at some point, managed to accumulate a total of 128 players, which was the cap, so our leader there simply remade it and asked all the still-active players to rejoin it. As a result, the new Invictus now has about 60~ members, with 15-30 online during peak times on weekdays.

Speaking of 'mobilization,' last night we were told on the Invictus LS chat that a smaller, Australian based LS had decided to disband and join us as a result. Once this happened (about 6-7 new members signed up,) everyone was friendly and a leve party got started, which I joined late, but still, very fun times.

Quote:

So, anything going on in FFXIV lately?


Yes, definitely.

P.S You're on Gysahl Thayos? Come join us if you can :p
____________________________
FFXIV

Estur Leone - Gysahl

#10 Dec 15 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Excellent
*
170 posts
My linkshells are very large and the smaller ones have died off, but a lot of people moved and got out of touch with others. A few large ones remain in my list on besaid, though the damage is done, more people join the surviving ones each day and it is good to see people coming back. I just hope when we rise from the ashes with NM patch and search and maybe even an AH, people will finally unit under strong power bases which no doubt wouldn't have solidified until much later if the game launched well.

Current LSes are far less likely to war with each other in the game's current state, and simply rally together. Though enough drama has reached my own shells that it seems almost typical of established mmos.
____________________________


#11 Dec 15 2010 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Server: Karnak
Linkshell: DivinityLS

Website: DivinityLS.enjin.com

Karnak's strongest and most active linkshell. ;)
Check out our site!

Thanks,

Atlas Thomas
#12 Dec 15 2010 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
***
3,177 posts
My linkshell has had a hard hit from player dissatisfaction as well. We originally started off as a large group of players and friends from FFXI. But slowly, a lot of my friends started to go back to FFXI one by one as they gave up on FFXIV. My immediate co-leaders and I have refused to simply give up and we're trying to build up a whole new roster of people so we can continue to do content as a group of friends and new members alike, but we're always more than welcome to accepting new people.

If anyone on Figaro server is in need of a linkshell, you're more than welcome to check out Viva Eorzea Linkshell! Out of the leaders available, only Ricocant Tribal, Nekovivie Uhlrahzi, Bellock Uhlrahzi, and I remain, so that's who to contact for a pearl.
____________________________
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
Grover Eyeveen - Hyperion Server
Viva Eorzea Free Company/Linkshell Leader - Hyperion Server

Aegis Server (2012-2013)
Figaro Server (2010-2012)

Final Fantasy XI:
Retired

Blog
#13 Dec 15 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
1 post
Hi I am looking for a LS and server. I played FF11 for years and some of my best gaming memories were made there, i was waiting for this to come out on PS3 because lets face it it won't be finished for awhile anyways. But seeing as the the release has been postponed indefinitely and i only only have a mac, i went ahead and hit up new egg and my build should be done by Friday. Meaning Saturday i'm going to need a ls so hit me up with info about your server and LS so i can make an informed decision thanks.
#14 Dec 15 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
***
1,673 posts
Our LS has been steadily growing. Even when we had to re-shell so a new leader could be made, quite a few followed. We mainly aim for ZAM members. But there are still a few who disappear briefly but eventually come back.
#15 Dec 15 2010 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
***
3,178 posts
What about linkshell merging?

I have 2 linkshells, one is quite strong and populated. Another started as a small but close knit group of friends. I'm not quite sure how to bring up the subject of linkshells merging. Surely one linkshell will just be disbanded and absorbed if this were to happen.

How can I suggest to a friend (Linkshell leader) that all the work they have done to build a Linkshell may benifit all it's members best by adding their remaining active members to a larger pool?

I seems best to just support and help both linkshell and leave things be. Still, I can't help but think that all parties would be enriched by merging.

Any advice?
#16 Dec 15 2010 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
***
1,636 posts
One of the nicest features of FFXIV is that you can be in multiple linkshells at the same time, and even read chat from multiples. I think its better because it lets people be part of multiple small groups that are easier to manage, and there are hopefully quite a few ties between them that can be used to accomplish bigger events. I'd much prefer this to the old 50+ member LSs that were a nightmare to organize events for.
____________________________


#17 Dec 15 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
*
222 posts
Our linkshell has a good core group and we seem to be expanding rapidly. We do leves together, behest and there is a lot of talk on vent about peoples new discoveries or people trading or repairing each others gear. If you are on Istory and need a linkshell hit me up in game.
____________________________


#18 Dec 15 2010 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
RufuSwho, perhaps consider proposing a merge to your ls leader (the smaller ls), but consider keeping the linkpearl active as a future event or nm hunting ls?
____________________________
Thayos Redblade
Jormungandr
Hyperion
#19 Dec 15 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
****
9,526 posts
Nerdhobby wrote:
Hi I am looking for a LS and server. I played FF11 for years and some of my best gaming memories were made there, i was waiting for this to come out on PS3 because lets face it it won't be finished for awhile anyways. But seeing as the the release has been postponed indefinitely and i only only have a mac, i went ahead and hit up new egg and my build should be done by Friday. Meaning Saturday i'm going to need a ls so hit me up with info about your server and LS so i can make an informed decision thanks.


I can't say enough good things about Rab. I enjoy all three linkshells that I belong to, and I've had a lot of good interactions with people outside my shell. It also appears to have a pretty healthy population. I can't say much about other servers but the R20 and R30 camps usually have a fair amount of activity going on.

____________________________
lolgaxe wrote:
When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.


#20 Dec 16 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
1 post
I am a new player to XIV, played XI for about 5 years and was a very active member of several end-game shells, but I decided to turn in the reigns on XI and try out XIV. I have really enjoyed my experience thus far, but I have been missing the pleasure of belonging to a LS. I am currently on Kashuan, but am willing to move servers to be apart of a steady LS. I typically play daily, but I work full time so I can't always play alot during the week. Im 25+, laid back, dedicated player who is looking to have some fun, but also kill some NM's and knock out some quests. I have tried to find a LS on Kashuan to no avail, so am hoping by posting here I can find a Kashuan LS or any LS that is actively recruiting.
#21 Dec 16 2010 at 9:59 AM Rating: Good
Olorinus the Vile wrote:

I can't say enough good things about Rab.


Also I play on Rab, what else could people want in a server. Smiley: cool
#23 Dec 24 2010 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
*
170 posts
Ask them then. Directly if need be to let you join.
____________________________


#24 Dec 24 2010 at 12:51 PM Rating: Good
****
9,526 posts
Chewwster wrote:
I am a new player to XIV, played XI for about 5 years and was a very active member of several end-game shells, but I decided to turn in the reigns on XI and try out XIV. I have really enjoyed my experience thus far, but I have been missing the pleasure of belonging to a LS. I am currently on Kashuan, but am willing to move servers to be apart of a steady LS. I typically play daily, but I work full time so I can't always play alot during the week. Im 25+, laid back, dedicated player who is looking to have some fun, but also kill some NM's and knock out some quests. I have tried to find a LS on Kashuan to no avail, so am hoping by posting here I can find a Kashuan LS or any LS that is actively recruiting.


Lots of us Zammers on Rab... our LS is recruiting. Just got another few members yesterday.

http://ffxiv.zam.com/journal.html?user=372629

That is our forum - if you do reroll check us out and post there for a pearl.

It may be better to look on the forum here for a linkshell on your server, however:

http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=202&mid=1290737765250319991&page=1

BartelX is a regular poster here who seems pretty decent - I don't know if his LS is recruiting though.
____________________________
lolgaxe wrote:
When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.


#25 Dec 27 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Even though all I've read are horrible reviews of the game, I'm still willing to give FFIX a try. Personally I like the old hardcore MMOs and other games nowadays are way too casual or the community is all about raiding and loot and not so much about fun. Plus I've been wanting to explore a new game for quite some time now and am ready to take the plunge!

So before I go purchase the game there are several questions maybe find some answers to, I've Googled my fair share and found this site has a pretty good community so might as well try here.

Is there currently just one version of the game, English & Japanese? There isn't any server or locality restriction to what version I buy right? Because I've seen European, English, and Japanese version and want to clear this up before I buy the wrong game for where I am >_<!

Should I buy the collectors edition? Its not that much more than the standards price so if its worth it I will pick that up instead.

This might sound like a noob question, but to my knowledge, it is still free to play and will continue till they fix all the problems...right?

Are servers region specific? I'm in Asia and a little worry I might pick the wrong server and see incredible lag, that or be in complete different timezones with other players that I will never see a person around to play with.

What are the population looking like now? I heard that a lot of players left so I don't want to join a ghost server for the obvious reasons. I remember FF11 I had to pay to switch servers which was just ridiculous, this time I want to get it right from the get go.

Lastly, when I do get this game installed and ready to go, which server should I pick? Any good casual semi-hardcore LS out there with a healthy player base looking for a new noob (won't be for long) to join their ranks? :D
This forum is read only
This Forum is Read Only!
Recent Visitors: 17 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (17)