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#1 Dec 14 2010 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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FFXIV has been nominated for "Most disappointing game" "Worst game everyone has played"

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/nominees/

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#2 Dec 14 2010 at 9:43 PM Rating: Excellent
That means in a year from now it will be eligible for "GREATEST COMEBACK EVER!"
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#3 Dec 14 2010 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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there are worst games this year, thats whats sadder at this point

i personaly would Put Fable 3, and Force Unleased 2 up there as worst games of the year.


there were a ton of big bad releases this year, but at least with an MMO...it can bounce back
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****, Worst game everyone's played? That's harsh...and it's leading by quite a bit in voting too. The more stuff like this that keeps coming out, the harder time this game will have a climbing itself out of a hole. I know everyone thinks it's going to be fixed, and ps3 release might be it's salvation. At this point though, the best this game can shoot for is a niche MMO that might not even get the same player base as XI.
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#5 Dec 14 2010 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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I expect it will win both "honors" handily.
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just a reminder, Aion won the "worst" catagories hands down across the board last year
they obviously dont affect how people care about the games they are playing
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I can see most disappointing. I don't think it would get worst game everyone has played considering it has and can improve being an MMO.

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#9 Dec 14 2010 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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Is it me or does the incessant bashing of FFXIV get more and more boring every day? This isn't directed at the OP of course, but just in general.
#10 Dec 14 2010 at 10:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Frankly, it's a fair cop. FF14 isn't some indie title - it's the flagship brand of a top-flight game company, and not exactly their first entry in the genre. But it turned out to be a clunky, characterless mess with area after area that looks like it was put together at the last minute; I cannot personally believe this was a game that SE was satisfied with before launch, and it's almost certain that the game launched far before it was ready.

That said, they definitely have "Grovel of the Year". A series of mea culpas, some real advancement on fixes, and just plain turning the billing system off... well, if I'm playing a beta, at least I'm not being charged by the month, huh? I'll be honest, I was away from the game for a month, and then came back after reading that. That's not a step you take if you're not prepared to make some serious changes.
#11 Dec 14 2010 at 10:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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FFXIV is the biggest gaming disappointment of 2010 for me. I still log in occasionally just hope'n its better. It is heading in the right direction but it just has sooooooooo far to go : (
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Thayos wrote:
That means in a year from now it will be eligible for "GREATEST COMEBACK EVER!"


Sir, i sure hope you are absolutely right.

I need a good MMO and nothing would make me happier then to play one that isn't filled with silly joke items, packed with retards and 50 different anon chars to hide behind etc.

but yeah. I don't think the game sucks, but it was far from what we all expected. There's some shine under the tarnish and SE is doing their best to buff the rest! here's hoping it pays off!
#13 Dec 15 2010 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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there are worst games this year, thats whats sadder at this point

i personaly would Put Fable 3, and Force Unleased 2 up there as worst games of the year.


there were a ton of big bad releases this year, but at least with an MMO...it can bounce back
Force Unleashed 2 wasn't so bad... well it was as bad... but still I had a little fun with it before discovering that a 2010 PC game didn't operate in the presence of Logitech G series devices...

Leave my gadgets alone!, that's what any decent game should understand, specially in 2010.

OP: that nomination is a shame, sadly I can't disagree.

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#14 Dec 15 2010 at 12:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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One of my favourite game, and example of multiplayer done right that I show to everyone in my design teams is "Puyo Puyo Da". It got a metacritic of something like 40% (it's not even on their website anymore), and some of the reviews I just found again out of nostalgia online gave it 2/10.

The morale of the story? FFXIV could have the ********* reviews, and win awards for the worst MMO ever created, but as long as I'm having fun every night and waste hours upon hours of my time online, I don't care about other's opinions. Perhaps the game is ****, but it's **** that I happen to like.
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#15 Dec 15 2010 at 1:28 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not a Gamespot fan, but they are right. Most disappointing game ever.
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#16 Dec 15 2010 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't know why I keep playing this disappointing game everyday..this is sad


Edited, Dec 15th 2010 2:41am by shandavine
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just a reminder, Aion won the "worst" catagories hands down across the board last year
they obviously dont affect how people care about the games they are playing


Now if only 90% of FFXIV's playerbase didn't speak English, we'd be in good shape...
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#18 Dec 15 2010 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Somebody is gotta be kidding me...
title "Worst Game Everyone Played" ? I'm asking what the... the game I'm so much enjoying, the story i called on par with on some other FF titles... the game i felt in love? Somebody must be drunk when voting...

I'm just waiting for this game to start kick those bastards asses!

But in mean time, time to play before maintenance <3

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#19 Dec 15 2010 at 4:05 AM Rating: Good
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FFXIV has been nominated for "Most disappointing game" "Worst game everyone has played"

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/nominees/



Hope we win! XD start voting people! honestly though so far it would deserve this award as it was a largely anticipated game that failed at launch but I think its gonna turn for the best soon enough here. I hope sites re-review the game (I guess they will be when PS3 release comes around) so people don't instantly shrug it off.
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#20 Dec 15 2010 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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Deserves to be the nominee for sure.

I hope they'll have a new category next year for "Most Improved"~
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"Worst game everyone has played"


Ugh, this annoys me, because I can guarantee only a small fraction of people have actually played the game, and will just hop on the media hype bandwagon.
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#22 Dec 15 2010 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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definitely hands down no question most disappointing, but there are some far worse games i have played this year, sadly i can't remember their names cause they sucked.
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#23 Dec 15 2010 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Thayos wrote:
That means in a year from now it will be eligible for "GREATEST COMEBACK EVER!"


obviously, gamespot is 100% stupid.

Lost planet 2 "worse game everyone played" ?

I swear i play that longer then resident evil 5

Lost planet is 100% amazing when you play coop.

Don't be brother by retards that running a company that hate foreign games. It is very obvious that gamespot only awards "local games and "single player" because all of them have no friends to play with.
#24 Dec 15 2010 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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It only deserves most disappointing because expectations were wrong. The polls I see show that most people expectated a FFXI-2 and it was never going to be.

For me, I wasn't expecting that, I avoided hype and too much reading up before hand (made that mistake before) and it is not a disappointment at all.

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#25 Dec 15 2010 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
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It only deserves most disappointing because expectations were wrong.


The only expectations I had was that the game be playable and full of engaging content. I guess that was too much to ask.

Severe disappointment.



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I really do not want to be the guy who decided to release FFXIV early. SE is going to have to put up with this stigma for the entire lifetime of FFXIV, and possibly longer. It doesn't matter if they can transform the game into the perfect MMO, it's still going to be seen as "disappointing".

Of course I'm enjoying and more than happy to reap the benefits of their tripled and quadrupled efforts to turn it around in the media's eye. MMOs are all about improvement. I'm more than happy to put up with a poor release if the updates become that much better.
#27 Dec 15 2010 at 8:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I find it amazing the bashing this game takes from people that hated it from the start. You know the best will be the one with the most AD dollars.
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Nah, as much as I like this game, it fully deserves the title.
Come on - a 2010 title with repetitive grindquests, completely
broken SP/EXP system (in the beginning) and a marketplace that
is so cumbersome that it is even cumbersome to describe it...

Nah. They'll have to suck that one up.

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Most disappointing? Yes. Worst? Meh, maybe the nomination is appropriate, but probably something else can win.

Even if you like the game, if you're on the forum it should be clear to you just how many people were disappointed. Even you must be disappointed that other people are disappointed, or that the PS3 version was delayed (even if you think that was the right decision, it's suboptimal), or that so many basic UI aspects are being changed so rapidly. I don't see how anyone could find FFXIV not disappointing.

This is what you were hoping for? A grindfest with a clunky UI that everyone ******* about and that people fled from in droves (despite being free-to-play ATM), that scored poorly in every magazine, that had a major management shuffle just months into release, that had a development team that admitted they dropped the ball, that has no AH? When FFXIV was announced, this is what you were hoping for? This is everything you ever dreamed of in a FF MMO?

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Well-deserved.
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Most disappointing, it at least deserves the nomination. Worst game that everyone played? Absolutely not, in the grand scheme of things, nobody played this game.

Most improved should be an easy win for next year, so long as they can actually fix significant things rather than just say they will.
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I hope it wins both titles. It'll give SE another reason to keep going full steam on implementing changes.

More importantly though, it deserves worst game of the year. I don't think there was a game (by a similarly top tier developer working on a top tier brand) that shipped with less content and more dated mechanic this year than FFXIV.
#33 Dec 15 2010 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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No doubt FFXIV will either win or rank high in that poll, however a good point was made: This is an MMO. They can seriously change the entire thing, game engine and all, if they wanted to and given enough time and support.

Force Unleashed II, however, is out and most likely won't get any additional support ever. Best you'd see is a Force Unleashed III: "We're Sorry About Our Last Game" Edition.

It's not like SE isn't aware that FFXIV's launch was terrible, and that the game is still terrible now. They have the resources to go in and fix the game up to bring it up to expectations. Some development houses might've taken a mortal blow to their reputation if they had released a game as unfinished as this, however SE not only has the ability but also the opportunity to bring the game up. At least we can be hopeful of that and look forward to it happening.
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I'm just glad they had the open beta, it's the reason I voted for Worst Game Everyone's played.

Playing the open beta lead me to cancel my pre-order and play something else. Yea so i hear it's free now? Well there's acouple other free online games I can play that are a lot more polished. League of Legends and Lotro anyone?

As they say in hollywood, the only bad publicity is no publicity. So hopefully these reviews will encourage the FFXIV team to get off their asses and fix everything wrong with this mmo, but like i said earlier, it's gonna take them at least a year or 2 before this game stops being horrible, just about every single aspect of the game needs improvement.
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Another thing about these sites with "votes" i just cant get behind

Any console game comes out, people buy it, play it, talk a little about it, and move on
an MMO comes out and itl have an entire community behind it(and every competitors communities against it)

as it is the only MMO on those catagories, whats gonna happen is anyone who advertises that it can be voted on in the forums of every other MMO, is gonna be one more vote against it for every person who wants to give negative press to the game they dont play, wether they play it or not.

whereas the real "bad" games of the year, will have either not been played because they are so bad cuz no one cared enough about them(tron, iron man 2 etc etc) or people will not even know about the voting that would normaly vote against them because as said...they dont have communities to advertise the voting

this is also why Aion won all the worst awards last year for MANY sites
not because it was the worst game, but because it had the most competition to vote against it

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Vedis wrote:
Another thing about these sites with "votes" i just cant get behind

Any console game comes out, people buy it, play it, talk a little about it, and move on
an MMO comes out and itl have an entire community behind it(and every competitors communities against it)

as it is the only MMO on those catagories, whats gonna happen is anyone who advertises that it can be voted on in the forums of every other MMO, is gonna be one more vote against it for every person who wants to give negative press to the game they dont play, wether they play it or not.

whereas the real "bad" games of the year, will have either not been played because they are so bad cuz no one cared enough about them(tron, iron man 2 etc etc) or people will not even know about the voting that would normaly vote against them because as said...they dont have communities to advertise the voting

this is also why Aion won all the worst awards last year for MANY sites
not because it was the worst game, but because it had the most competition to vote against it

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 11:28am by Vedis


Well that's the reason it wins the most disappointing game award too. It wasn't expected to be this bad. When people expect a game to be bad they don't buy it/play it, so why trash a horrible game that you knew was going to be horrible when you could trash a game that should've been good but was horrible? Contrary to fanboy belief, a lot of players just want this game to be a lot better then it is, bad press is still press, once everyone stops caring about this game is when you have to worry, cause that's when the dev-team will probably just give up.
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Vedis wrote:
Another thing about these sites with "votes" i just cant get behind

Any console game comes out, people buy it, play it, talk a little about it, and move on
an MMO comes out and itl have an entire community behind it(and every competitors communities against it)

as it is the only MMO on those catagories, whats gonna happen is anyone who advertises that it can be voted on in the forums of every other MMO, is gonna be one more vote against it for every person who wants to give negative press to the game they dont play, wether they play it or not.

whereas the real "bad" games of the year, will have either not been played because they are so bad cuz no one cared enough about them(tron, iron man 2 etc etc) or people will not even know about the voting that would normaly vote against them because as said...they dont have communities to advertise the voting

this is also why Aion won all the worst awards last year for MANY sites
not because it was the worst game, but because it had the most competition to vote against it

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 11:28am by Vedis


Well that's the reason it wins the most disappointing game award too. It wasn't expected to be this bad. When people expect a game to be bad they don't buy it/play it, so why trash a horrible game that you knew was going to be horrible when you could trash a game that should've been good but was horrible? Contrary to fanboy belief, a lot of players just want this game to be a lot better then it is, bad press is still press, once everyone stops caring about this game is when you have to worry, cause that's when the dev-team will probably just give up.



its also a funny truth to it, the fact people go out of their way to vote against it, especialy those who have never played it(and most who vote for it, did in fact never play it, and i guarentee most people voting for it are wow players, aion players, and other mmo players in general) its because they are still afraid of losing friends/guildies and such to the new game on the block.
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Most improved should be an easy win for next year


I don't know if it's fair to let SE participate: they kind of rigged the election by leaving so much room to grow...
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its also a funny truth to it, the fact people go out of their way to vote against it, especialy those who have never played it(and most who vote for it, did in fact never play it, and i guarentee most people voting for it are wow players, aion players, and other mmo players in general)


I'd ask for some sources on this, but clearly you have none. >_<;

Given that the population has supposedly (based upon units sold, I think) moved from somewhere around 600,000 around release to about 50,000 now, I don't think that it is impossible that the mere thousands of votes against FFXIV are from actual, former players.
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#40 Dec 15 2010 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
All this negativity -- even as the game gets bettersi -- could actually work to solidify the ffxiv playerbase with an "us against the world" mentality. FFXI had the same thing going for it.
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Most disappointing game in my video game career that started with Pong. I am purchasing Cataclysm Thursday with my brother and might not ever play FFXIV again. The game honestly made me sad as to how much it let me down. Worst game of 2010 probably not but definately most disappointing game.
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#42 Dec 15 2010 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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It only deserves most disappointing because expectations were wrong. The polls I see show that most people expectated a FFXI-2 and it was never going to be.

For me, I wasn't expecting that, I avoided hype and too much reading up before hand (made that mistake before) and it is not a disappointment at all.

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I was expecting a game that was marketed to the PC crowds first, to be optimized for a PC, I expected content, I expected the game to respond to my input commands at a reasonable rate, I did not expect it to be XI-2, but I did expect the general functionality and design would be at least on par with an 8 year old game from the same company, I did not expect (and was quite appalled) when I found it be far less so.
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its also a funny truth to it, the fact people go out of their way to vote against it, especialy those who have never played it(and most who vote for it, did in fact never play it, and i guarentee most people voting for it are wow players, aion players, and other mmo players in general) its because they are still afraid of losing friends/guildies and such to the new game on the block.


Do you really think, that at this point, this game is even on the radar of other developers or for that matter their communities? If I was a developer perhaps I would have paid attention a year ago, but at this point I would have written this game off as far a competition I would have to worry about, at least for the time being until they fix things.

I think this is one of those Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is probably the correct one) sort of things. Which seams more plausible, an army of haters bent on voting down this game because they are scared of it's potential to effect whatever game they play; or that the thousand of people who were hoping this game would be great ended up disappointed and voted as such.

p.s. perhaps it's on the radar of developers as what to avoid doing when you launch your game.

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 4:12pm by Thegorgatron
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They put Final Fantasy XIII as best RPG? Really? You just walk in a line the whole time!
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They put Final Fantasy XIII as best RPG? Really? You just walk in a line the whole time!


Yet people gush at the mere mention of FFVII in all its pre-rendered-excluding-world-map-goodness. Smiley: sly
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Gamespot, eh?

Where do I go to vote for General Raam to beat Sephiroth again?
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They put Final Fantasy XIII as best RPG? Really? You just walk in a line the whole time!


Yet people gush at the mere mention of FFVII in all its pre-rendered-excluding-world-map-goodness. Smiley: sly


I mean I am disappointed with Final Fantasy XIV, don't get me wrong, we all are (to some degree). But I was way more disappointed with Final Fantasy XIII. Aside from chocobos and the Amano logo, it didn't even feel like a Final Fantasy game.

At all.


Also, where's Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver? I'm surprised that game isn't on the list for best RPG of the year.



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I just ignore the negativity. We had to start a new LS because of poor poor players who couldn't find anything to do in FFXIV. Like you I am having a blast and expect to continue doing so.
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Yeah, I gotta agree there. I was kinda disappointed in XIV but they're planning to improve it, so it still has hope and I'm still interested in it.

FFXIII on the other hand, is a single player game and will therefore never be improved. It was a dull, boring tunnel that was putting me to sleep at only 2-3 hours in and unlike FFXIV, I couldn't find any redeeming reason to keep playing other than "Well, considering I preordered it and went to a midnight release for it, I feel like I should force myself to suffer through it at least a little longer".

FFXIV at least has the whole "Other people to talk to so that you can compensate for boredom by finding stuff to do" going for it.
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its also a funny truth to it, the fact people go out of their way to vote against it, especialy those who have never played it(and most who vote for it, did in fact never play it, and i guarentee most people voting for it are wow players, aion players, and other mmo players in general) its because they are still afraid of losing friends/guildies and such to the new game on the block.


Do you really think, that at this point, this game is even on the radar of other developers or for that matter their communities? If I was a developer perhaps I would have paid attention a year ago, but at this point I would have written this game off as far a competition I would have to worry about, at least for the time being until they fix things.

I think this is one of those Occam's Razor (the simplest explanation is probably the correct one) sort of things. Which seams more plausible, an army of haters bent on voting down this game because they are scared of it's potential to effect whatever game they play; or that the thousand of people who were hoping this game would be great ended up disappointed and voted as such.

p.s. perhaps it's on the radar of developers as what to avoid doing when you launch your game.

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 4:12pm by Thegorgatron


it isnt about what developers are watching the games

its about the players, and there are still alot of players "following" whats happening
and there are ALOT of petty people out there who go out of their way to vote against any kind of competition. last years votes saw tons of this, although last year we had alot more MMOs in the catagories then there are now.


personaly, MMOs deserve their own fields and shouldnt even be compared to console games, the worlds are just too different
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#51 Dec 15 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was hugely disappointed by FFXIV. After enjoying FFXI so much, I'd hoped that they'd somehow be able to recreate the magic. Sadly they failed.

Worst game? Definitely not.
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