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#1 Dec 15 2010 at 10:49 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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upon coming home from work, 8:30 EST. I sat down and figured id start the update and do whatever else I had to do for the evening, and then take a few hours to play.

The time is now 11:46 as I type this.. I still have 2 hours remaining, and it keeps flickering back to 3 hours and 50 minutes..

ARE THE BUFFALO SO HUGE THAT THEY ARE CLOGGING MY INTERNET TUBES?

I will be asleep by the time it finishes.

gg SE
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Sorry it's taking so long for you. :( I downloaded in less than 10 mins about half an hour ago.
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kumaaa wrote:

gg SE


i like how people like to blame SE for their own personal problems. i downloaded the patch in probably between 10 and 15 minutes.

check your firewalls, open the appropriate ports, contact your isp to make sure theres no problems on their end. the last thing u should do tho is blame SE.


so gg to you sir
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#4 Dec 15 2010 at 10:58 PM Rating: Default
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im having a hard time updateing also where can i get the torrent for the patch?
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#5northff, Posted: Dec 15 2010 at 11:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%. I thought it might be my connection, so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec). So it's on the SE side. I feel your pain! At this rate it is gonna take at least 12 hours.
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If you haven't already, restart your computer. Or at the very least restart the program (FFXIV) and make sure you're running it as admin.
#7 Dec 15 2010 at 11:05 PM Rating: Default
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i update the game in 10 mins, i would recommend to cancel download and restart it, might be a bug in ur pc, or firewall.
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northff wrote:
I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%. I thought it might be my connection, so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec). So it's on the SE side. I feel your pain! At this rate it is gonna take at least 12 hours.

northff wrote:

1. I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%.
2. I thought it might be my connection,
3. so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec).
4. ...
5. ...
6. So it's on the SE side.


Logic?

Fix your own firewall and porting before blaming SE.

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 9:12pm by timmyofalex
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#9 Dec 15 2010 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
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Took me 10 mins.

The buffalo is too big for your internet cable probably.
#10 Dec 15 2010 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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timmyofalex wrote:
northff wrote:
I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%. I thought it might be my connection, so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec). So it's on the SE side. I feel your pain! At this rate it is gonna take at least 12 hours.

northff wrote:

1. I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%.
2. I thought it might be my connection,
3. so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec).
4. ...
5. ...
6. So it's on the SE side.


Logic?

Fix your own firewall and porting before blaming SE.

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 9:12pm by timmyofalex


took me 7 minutes. You really really really really really need to learn how to use your port forwarding and how to let it through your software firewalls. Single DL speed =/= torrent download speed
#11 Dec 16 2010 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I use the SqEnix updater and I had the patch downloaded within a maximum of 20 minutes.
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#12 Dec 16 2010 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
utorrent, walked out of room, got a drink, ate something, walked out for a few mins to look at the snow, came back in.. was done.

utorrent is your friend, if you cant do 3 little steps, you should seek help lol
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utorrent, walked out of room, got a drink, ate something, walked out for a few mins to look at the snow, came back in.. was done.

utorrent is your friend, if you cant do 3 little steps, you should seek help lol


Forget uTorrent, I patched it through the updater with one hand rubbing my belly, the other in my nose and both my feet touching the ceiling and it only took me about 10 minutes.

...now *obviously*, had my feet been on the ground I'd be looking at 1 - 1.5 hours at best.


Edited, Dec 16th 2010 1:43am by SolidMack
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northff wrote:
I've been downloading this since 5:30pm est and only at 18%. I thought it might be my connection, so I tried to DL something else on another computer and see what speeds I got (well over 300k/sec). So it's on the SE side. I feel your pain! At this rate it is gonna take at least 12 hours.

No, it's not...
Nobody is going to send you pieces of the patch unless you can send them the pieces that you have. That's how BitTorrent works.. If you're firewalled off and can't send anything, then people will send to other people that WILL send to them. The BitTorrent protocol automatically favors trading data with people who send you the most data.

So if you send absolutely nothing, then 99.9% of people out there are going to find better "deals" sending data to other users (not you). And you'll get almost nothing except from the few seeders that are out there who have the whole file and are sending it to everybody.

WOW's downloader works the same way.

Really, this whole port forwarding / NAT is because we need IPv6 on the Internet. There aren't enough IPs out there to give everybody and their device an address. So you need to have your router forward the packets directly to your PC because it doesn't automatically know to which location random connections it's receiving on that port need to go. You could have half a dozen computers behind your router... You could also have hundreds of thousands of PCs behind your router sharing that one Internet IP address.. There's no way for the router to know where unsolicited inbound connections needs to go unless you manually port forward it.

If you don't port forward, then incoming requests from other people for data will get dropped / thrown away / deleted automatically by your modem/router.. So you'll never send very many packets because your PC never got the request and other people will favor other people that will send to them over you.

Since your router/modem is the device that's dropping the connections because you didn't port forward. The networking problem is on your end.

Add me up as another person who got the patch in less than 10 minutes..


Edited, Dec 16th 2010 6:46am by Sidicas
#15northff, Posted: Dec 16 2010 at 5:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So decided to come back and read this and see what happened. Now i've got the update and been finding out ALOT of people are getting the same problem. figured I would reply.
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It seems like some are getting good performance from the SE updater. If you aren't, check my thread from the last update on how to torrent patches.
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#17 Dec 16 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
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I have the same problem as the OP every time there's one of these updates. I left it on over night and then in the morning it had timed out. D'oh! Hopefully it'll be done when I get home from work.


#18 Dec 16 2010 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Less than 15 mins for me including install. :D
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#19 Dec 16 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Default
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Yes, exactly! Server fail! It took me over 3+ hrs.

I have had mixed results by canceling and restarting the update for minimal gain.

The really need to fix this. . . It's not like that 'many' people are on playing the game atm.
#20 Dec 16 2010 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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20 mins or less for me on a slow update a day post patch.
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#21 Dec 16 2010 at 10:04 AM Rating: Default
I started the update at about 6:00PM... after 2.5 hours I was at 55%. I had 3 local connections 0 remote.

At that point my manslave got home... looked at it, looked at me... got this @#$%-eating grin on his face and opened up a page on the computer for our linksys router.

He turned on something called "DMZ Hosting"... and the download finished the last 45% in 3 minutes, ending up with 9 local connections and 28 remote.

I guessing that not having the "DMZ" thingy on my router turned on was not SE's fault... so ya, tech-savy manslaves FTW!
#22 Dec 16 2010 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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if it was server fail, no one would have gotten the files.

my time (properly port forwarded USING SE's TORRENT PORTS) about 30 min with a 1 mbit connection.

anyone taking more time then that to update needs to set their router to forward SE's TORRENT PORTS to their machine.

port ranges

tcp ports 54992-55551
udp ports 55296-55551

if you dont have these port ranges forwarded then it is YOU who are at fault for you dl speed, not SE.

edit: to the poster above, DMZ is a method by which your router logically moves your machine outside the network firewall, which will do the same as port forwarding but also leave your machine at risk for attack

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 9:09am by taliph
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it only took me like 20 minutes to download, make sure your ports are open and forwarded correctly.

I wanted to mention about the DMZ settings, that should only be used as a last resort, definitely do not leave your machine outside the DMZ, you're asking for trouble that way. Port forwarding is the more secure solution.

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 11:20am by Jefro420
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#24 Dec 16 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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edit: to the poster above, DMZ is a method by which your router logically moves your machine outside the network firewall, which will do the same as port forwarding but also leave your machine at risk for attack

Yea he turned it off again after the downloading was done, I'll as him about the port forwarding thingy. If you have multiple computers trying to do the download at the same time are you able to forward ports to both of them?

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 11:28am by UnknownGoddess
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I've never had a FFXIV update take more than 10 minutes. There are SO many things that can go wrong on your end or with your ISP that it's really silly to immediately blame SE.
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taliph wrote:
if it was server fail, no one would have gotten the files.

my time (properly port forwarded USING SE's TORRENT PORTS) about 30 min with a 1 mbit connection.

anyone taking more time then that to update needs to set their router to forward SE's TORRENT PORTS to their machine.

port ranges

tcp ports 54992-55551
udp ports 55296-55551

if you dont have these port ranges forwarded then it is YOU who are at fault for you dl speed, not SE.

edit: to the poster above, DMZ is a method by which your router logically moves your machine outside the network firewall, which will do the same as port forwarding but also leave your machine at risk for attack

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 9:09am by taliph


good job on providing information on how to do this. Oh wait I mean epic fail on teasing with bragging without helping.

Edited, Dec 16th 2010 11:11am by Nicholiathan
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#27 Dec 16 2010 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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good job on providing information on how to do this. Oh wait I mean epic fail on teasing with bragging without helping.


Have you ever tried to solve a computer problem without physically sitting at the computer? Especially if the client knows little about computers it can take hours even using a telephone. It could take days or weeks via forums. And besides, the OP did not politely ask how he could solve the problem. No, he immediately pushed the blame to someone else. If he's unwilling to help himself, why should anyone here offer to spend hours upon hours trying to troubleshoot the problem for him?
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Nicholiathan wrote:
good job on providing information on how to do this. Oh wait I mean epic fail on teasing with bragging without helping.


Have you ever tried to solve a computer problem without physically sitting at the computer? Especially if the client knows little about computers it can take hours even using a telephone. It could take days or weeks via forums. And besides, the OP did not politely ask how he could solve the problem. No, he immediately pushed the blame to someone else. If he's unwilling to help himself, why should anyone here offer to spend hours upon hours trying to troubleshoot the problem for him?


Of course the OP immediately placed the blame where it properly belongs in SE's lap. Whoever came up the nonsense of bit torrents really needs to be severely disciplined. I must have missed the post where there is more than a list of numbers such as a reference to what those numbers mean or where to get hardware specific information on how to use those. No, I didn't after looking again that information is just not there. So yes fail remains a fail.
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Nicholiathan wrote:
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Nicholiathan wrote:
good job on providing information on how to do this. Oh wait I mean epic fail on teasing with bragging without helping.


Have you ever tried to solve a computer problem without physically sitting at the computer? Especially if the client knows little about computers it can take hours even using a telephone. It could take days or weeks via forums. And besides, the OP did not politely ask how he could solve the problem. No, he immediately pushed the blame to someone else. If he's unwilling to help himself, why should anyone here offer to spend hours upon hours trying to troubleshoot the problem for him?


Of course the OP immediately placed the blame where it properly belongs in SE's lap. Whoever came up the nonsense of bit torrents really needs to be severely disciplined. I must have missed the post where there is more than a list of numbers such as a reference to what those numbers mean or where to get hardware specific information on how to use those. No, I didn't after looking again that information is just not there. So yes fail remains a fail.

SE isn't to blame when a user doesn't properly forward their ports. It's a pretty common occurrence when a game needs certain ports to be opened, if the user doesn't do that, no one is to blame but that user.
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#30 Dec 16 2010 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Like it has been stated before, it honestly sounds like you have the wrong ports forwarded or none forwarding at all. Make sure you have your TCP and UDP ports on your router forwarded correctly (Refer to your router model and search Google if you don't know how to forward ports. It will most likely have a plethora of tutorials available for you.) Remember to also elevate the program to admin level, and also make sure that any firewall settings on your computer are not conflicting with that of your router.

If all else fails, download the patch from elsewhere and install it locally.
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#31 Dec 16 2010 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Dunno, i do all my port forwarding etc and have the worst DL speeds. (7MB DSL line)

All I do is a quick search for D2010, load the latest torrent into uTorrent. remove the tracker and rely on peer exchange / DHT... then you can seed it for others, unlike their sh*t torrent system.


I have never seen Uldah so dead last night, obviously the majority of the player base was unable to patch before I headed to bed at midnight.

BTW, Kudos on the patch!!

Some major polishing done to the interface. So many aggravations and UI delays have been improved. AND I finally have some ******* bag space!

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BTW, you don't have to search for a torrent in other websites or download from anywhere else. Just use the one its already being downloaded from the official SE tracker, just go to the FFXIV downloads folder that has been mentioned, go to metainfo and the torrent file is there, double click it to make it open in your favorite torrent program, and thats it, no need to search, and its the same one the downloader from SE is downloading, just using a different torrent downloader program.
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#33 Dec 16 2010 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks! This will be a huge time saver for the next large patch.
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Just log into your router by typing 192.168.1.1 into your internet explorer address bar (your router's IP might end in something besides 1 like 100 check your manual). Then enable the service called UPnP. Sometimes this setting will forward the ports you need automatically and you can set your NIC to use DHCP instead of setting up a static IP and manually forwarding. It works for my router.
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