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#1 Dec 19 2010 at 5:02 AM Rating: Decent
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For a little back story, I usually stream video from netflix while I craft or what not. At first while doing, I didn't pay it much attention as I was just crafting...if I was even doing anything on game and not distracted by the movie.

I have just noticed that I get server crash errors alot more while streaming netflix than when not. Is this the game, bad router, unopened ports that I should open? Any help would be much appreciated. Would like to keep watching something while grinding away on my crafts.
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#2 Dec 19 2010 at 6:41 AM Rating: Good
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I get an issue with graphics stutter when I run YouTube in the background, literally starts and stops as soon as I pause and play, but I imagine it is probably down to RAM or something?

I run the game on near max settings at probably close to 45+ FPS steady most of the time, just when I play Tube it dies.
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#3 Dec 19 2010 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I should of noted that I stream from netflix on my laptop sitting next to me, not on the same computer. Important bit of information I overlooked, my apologies.
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#4 Dec 19 2010 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
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Well I should of noted that I stream from netflix on my laptop sitting next to me, not on the same computer.


Your not actually asking if steaming netflix on your laptop is affecting your pc to crash on final fantasy are you?
#5 Dec 19 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your not actually asking if steaming netflix on your laptop is affecting your pc to crash on final fantasy are you?

He's not asking if the Netflix program is magically affecting a totally different computer; he's asking if streaming Netflix might be using up network resources or otherwise messing with his internet in a way that affects FFXIV. Since it's entirely possible for one computer to ***** up the network for everyone, it's a reasonable thing to wonder about.
#6 Dec 19 2010 at 9:21 PM Rating: Good
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3 Things that will invariably lower the overall quality (and in some cases, security) of your connection.
1. Streaming
2. Torrenting
3. Downloading anything, really.

If you play XIV on wireless, and have other wireless devices, your chances of a dropped connection also increase.
When it says "there was an error on the server" it actually means "connection lost."
Tested it by forcing my router to d/c me a few times while playing XIV.
Also of note: the more data that goes through a device at the same time, the higher the chance some of that data can be lost in transit, corrupted, or otherwise tampered with.



An actual game crash would kill the ffxiv application itself; it would gray out then a popup window appear with 2 very familiar options, both of which require the closing of the window.

Edited, Dec 19th 2010 9:23pm by Uryuu
#7 Dec 19 2010 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, this is the server crash error. Good to know that I am not just seeing something that isn't there. The computer I play FFXIV on is hooked up wired, while the laptop is wireless. Might have to dig around and see if I can find a way to fix this.
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#8 Dec 20 2010 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Glad I could help. I suggest disabling UPNP (Universal plug and play) on the router for security measures. It's also a great way to block people from using your connection to torrent illegal and/or copyrighted materials.

A log of your router's history could help to pinpoint the issue, as well. Personally I can stream anime and play FFXIV at the same time, even while my ps3 is online...but only when I take the correct security measures to eliminate threats to the quality and security of my online experience.
#9 Dec 20 2010 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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ScorpionEx wrote:
I get an issue with graphics stutter when I run YouTube in the background, literally starts and stops as soon as I pause and play, but I imagine it is probably down to RAM or something?

I run the game on near max settings at probably close to 45+ FPS steady most of the time, just when I play Tube it dies.


youtube uses high quality video, your graphics card more then likely lowers you speeds because its decoding the video, for example i have a radeon hd 5850, gpu clock is set to 775 mhz while memory clock is set to 1125 mhz, if i play a youtube video my clocks lower to 400mhz / 900mhz this is suppost to happen because its decoding the video, etc, there is alot of talk about it on amd forums if you want to know more. I use AMD GPU clock tool, you can set what speeds you want your video card to run at and they will not change, also great tool for OC. (Use caution when OC your video card, read alot about OC if you want to do it. If you break you video card its your own fault, don't blame me.)

As far as using utorrent while playing ffxiv i have no issues while dl on private trackers (torrentday, torrentzone, demonoid, etc), public trackers (piratebay) on the other hand use DHT, local peer discovery and peer exchange, this cause more "lag" on your system because is searching more then just what you bandwidth is telling you, you are using, for example i dl at 900kB/s and upload 90kB/s and i never have connection issues while playing ffxiv. but if i was on a public tracker with DHT, local peer discovery, and peer exchange enabled then i get constant R0, its hard to explain cause i don't know a whole lot about it personally; just what i've messed around with. You can also reduce lag using utorrent by reducing the number of peers you connect to, i usally set global max to 100 and max peers to 50 this is usally plenty as i dl off private trackers and the speed are much better and i don't have to connect to alot of people. All in all, i disable DHT, local peer discovery, and peer exchange, if you have it on there is also a risk of you dl a virus, but it is very very rare. Google search it if you want to know more.

I'm sure netflix is eating your bandwidth up and that is why your getting server crashes, cancel your membership and dl movies, you'll pay for your ffxiv account.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 3:03am by BluntzBlazin

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 3:13am by BluntzBlazin
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#10 Dec 20 2010 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't forget that Comcast, as well as other ISPs, have the right (really, they won it in court) to throttle your connection if you use torrent programs merely based on the traffic type. They are also required in some areas by law to ban you from using their service if you are found to be downloading and/or uploading copyrighted materials without the consent of the copyright owner...and even to turn this information over to the authorities when asked.
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