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#1 Dec 20 2010 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
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First, I'm Azury Ariella of Wutai if you have any questions.

Hey everyone, I've been busy trying to take every job to 20 lately, and in the process I've managed to discover the most efficient + fastest way to get from 1-20 under the new SP system. Note that i'm phys 50 and it may take a bit longer if your physical level is low.

If you want to have fun (instead of being efficient) please try my old guide which is only updated on zam. It still works to 20: Old Guide

This new guide is PURELY for efficiency, and allows you to push any job to 20 within 1 day. Please search Azury Ariella on Wutai for proof of this in my history. I realize its more like 27 hours than 24 hours but i did sleep inbetween for 8 hours and i AFK a lot.
To save you time heres an example from my history:
dec - 16: archer rank 5 @ 1:50 am est
dec - 16: archer rank 10 @ 2:40 am est
Sleep for like 8 hours
dec - 16: archer rank 15 @ 5:56 pm est
AFK a bunch
dec -17: archer rank 20 @ 4:20 am est
total approx time with sleep + afk = 27 hours.

Also this game is -broken-. People who say that its not broken are delusional. This guide + my history proove you can get to 20 in a day under the new system. And i have yet to see anyone post a viable party set up or mob to solo that beats coblyns. Just compare my original guide with all its variation to this new guide.

GUIDE:

Levels 1 - 10: Gridania
Kill star marmot and funguar right outside of the city. Just chain them non stop. If you have a healing ability use it to avoid ever having to rest. Personally I like bloodbath, but any ability will be fine :p.
Reason: Gridania is dead compared to other zones, there are LOTS of mobs, and they go down -easily-.

Levels 1 - 10: Ul'Dah
Kill doblyn and marmots by camp black brush. The best camp is the hill -right- by blackbrush. It has like 30 mobs on it and can have 2 ppl killing non stop before respawn becomes a problem.

Levels 9 - 20: Gridania: camp Emerald Moss
Kill thistletail marmots. There are about 5 different camps with a ton of them. Just kill them -non stop-. If you have multiple hp-regen moves use them all. You should be able to chain like 5-10 in a row before needing to sit and heal for 20 seconds. I usually just find one camp, clear it out, afk for 15min, come back, clear it out again, etc.
Reason: Many people say to start coblyns at this point but i find that they don't respawn fast enough and as such are considerable slower to SP on.

Levels 18 - 20: Gridania: camp Emerald Moss
Kill young opo-opo's. There's a nice camp for them right near the hyrstmill hamlet. I still found marmots faster but if there is competition this is the place to be.

Levels 20 - 50:
COBLYNS. Nothing else. If you're going to solo, solo coblyns. Simple as that. Enjoy a month of grinding on the exact same mobs. They are seriously the only efficient mob to solo grind on, and parties seem to be slower. Use YG and search coblyn for a reference to their locations and levels and such.

Teaming up 20 - 50: If you -really- want to party you're only 2 real options are behests and leves. However from many people I have talked to, soloing coblyns are still considerably faster.




Thank you, Good luck on your adventures. If you have any suggestions for alternative places to SP or strategies to level in parties, please post them.
-Azury Ariella
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You say "every job", does this too include DOH and DOL? If not, is there a guide somewhere to where I can find leveling these crafts in an efficient manner? Other than leves. What items are the easiest the skill up on and such. Thanks!
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To be honest you don't even have to do anything but stay in Thanalan. There are several different coblyns you can solo from 1-19ish and then you get to head to Nanawa mines for even more coblyns

So this is pretty much the level guide for this game atm (in my opinion):

1.) Rank 1-50: KILL COBLYNS. LEVES. BEHEST. MORE BEHEST.

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One thing to make note of is that Archer is a pretty good soloing class due to the speed at which you can down mobs. It would be nice to see stats similar to yours for other classes. I wouldn't be suprised if it takes much longer. Gotta love my Archer!!!
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Shredmastah wrote:
To be honest you don't even have to do anything but stay in Thanalan. There are several different coblyns you can solo from 1-19ish and then you get to head to Nanawa mines for even more coblyns

So this is pretty much the level guide for this game atm (in my opinion):

1.) Rank 1-50: KILL COBLYNS. LEVES. BEHEST. MORE BEHEST.

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i tried coblyns. They weren't grouped up enough to be crazy efficient compared to marmots. Ex. when i did coblyn's it took me 2-3 days to push a job to 20. But yes coblyns are also an option
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before i tested with archer i had tested pugilist there. The sp-per hour was pretty well the same as archer. Actually honestly i think i exp'd faster on pug than i did on archer. I was taking too much dmg as archer and had to heal a lot. I would prob order things as following for fastest jobs:
lnc
pug
arc
gld

Not sure where mrd goes cuz i lvld it prior to sp change. But i'd guess between lnc and pug.
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You could do 1-20 in one day pre-november patch too. 1-10 Marmots, 11-15 different type of marmots, 16-20 trio in mun tuy cellars for easy fast sp

Nothing's changed 1-20, except that the caps are lower.
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Meowshi wrote:
You could do 1-20 in one day pre-november patch too. 1-10 Marmots, 11-15 different type of marmots, 16-20 trio in mun tuy cellars for easy fast sp

Nothing's changed 1-20, except that the caps are lower.


you couldn't solo. even 11-15 on marmots wasn't fast back then. 15-20 solo took like 2 days.
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Azurymber wrote:
Meowshi wrote:
You could do 1-20 in one day pre-november patch too. 1-10 Marmots, 11-15 different type of marmots, 16-20 trio in mun tuy cellars for easy fast sp

Nothing's changed 1-20, except that the caps are lower.


you couldn't solo. even 11-15 on marmots wasn't fast back then. 15-20 solo took like 2 days.


Marmots were slightly slower than they are now, yielding ~80sp/kill. There is a place in emerald moss you can chain (spot for botany leves) with purely thistletail marmots, emerald bee swarms, and roselets. At the 80 sp /kill, you could do 10-15 in roughly five hours.

Then trio in mun tuy cellar was extremely fast SP, around 15k for DPS and 10k for everything else.
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Azurymber wrote:
before i tested with archer i had tested pugilist there. The sp-per hour was pretty well the same as archer. Actually honestly i think i exp'd faster on pug than i did on archer. I was taking too much dmg as archer and had to heal a lot. I would prob order things as following for fastest jobs:
lnc
pug
arc
gld

Not sure where mrd goes cuz i lvld it prior to sp change. But i'd guess between lnc and pug.


My archer with Sacrifice (THM), Second Wind (PUG), and Shock Spikes (CNJ) is my most efficient solo'er atm, I can run through chocobos like nothing (as long my weapon and armor is up to date and not damaged) at level 14-20...Coblyns prior to that are real good xp. Marauder is slow I though, I think its below Gladiator in your list tbh.
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SolidMack wrote:
Azurymber wrote:
before i tested with archer i had tested pugilist there. The sp-per hour was pretty well the same as archer. Actually honestly i think i exp'd faster on pug than i did on archer. I was taking too much dmg as archer and had to heal a lot. I would prob order things as following for fastest jobs:
lnc
pug
arc
gld

Not sure where mrd goes cuz i lvld it prior to sp change. But i'd guess between lnc and pug.


My archer with Sacrifice (THM), Second Wind (PUG), and Shock Spikes (CNJ) is my most efficient solo'er atm, I can run through chocobos like nothing (as long my weapon and armor is up to date and not damaged) at level 14-20...Coblyns prior to that are real good xp. Marauder is slow I though, I think its below Gladiator in your list tbh.


ah ok cool :] i guess it depends on what combo of abilities your using.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 9:21pm by Azurymber
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SolidMack wrote:
My archer with Sacrifice (THM), Second Wind (PUG), and Shock Spikes (CNJ) is my most efficient solo'er atm, I can run through chocobos like nothing


SolidMack wrote:
I can run through chocobos like nothing


You monster! D:
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Satisiun wrote:
SolidMack wrote:
My archer with Sacrifice (THM), Second Wind (PUG), and Shock Spikes (CNJ) is my most efficient solo'er atm, I can run through chocobos like nothing


SolidMack wrote:
I can run through chocobos like nothing


You monster! D:


Lol meant dodos.
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Azurymber wrote:
First, I'm Azury Ariella of Wutai if you have any questions.

Hey everyone, I've been busy trying to take every job to 20 lately, and in the process I've managed to discover the most efficient + fastest way to get from 1-20 under the new SP system. Note that i'm phys 50 and it may take a bit longer if your physical level is low.

If you want to have fun (instead of being efficient) please try my old guide which is only updated on zam. It still works to 20: Old Guide

This new guide is PURELY for efficiency, and allows you to push any job to 20 within 1 day. Please search Azury Ariella on Wutai for proof of this in my history. I realize its more like 27 hours than 24 hours but i did sleep inbetween for 8 hours and i AFK a lot.
To save you time heres an example from my history:
dec - 16: archer rank 5 @ 1:50 am est
dec - 16: archer rank 10 @ 2:40 am est
Sleep for like 8 hours
dec - 16: archer rank 15 @ 5:56 pm est
AFK a bunch
dec -17: archer rank 20 @ 4:20 am est
total approx time with sleep + afk = 27 hours.

Also this game is -broken-. People who say that its not broken are delusional. This guide + my history proove you can get to 20 in a day under the new system. And i have yet to see anyone post a viable party set up or mob to solo that beats coblyns. Just compare my original guide with all its variation to this new guide.

GUIDE:

Levels 1 - 10: Gridania
Kill star marmot and funguar right outside of the city. Just chain them non stop. If you have a healing ability use it to avoid ever having to rest. Personally I like bloodbath, but any ability will be fine :p.
Reason: Gridania is dead compared to other zones, there are LOTS of mobs, and they go down -easily-.

Levels 1 - 10: Ul'Dah
Kill doblyn and marmots by camp black brush. The best camp is the hill -right- by blackbrush. It has like 30 mobs on it and can have 2 ppl killing non stop before respawn becomes a problem.

Levels 9 - 20: Gridania: camp Emerald Moss
Kill thistletail marmots. There are about 5 different camps with a ton of them. Just kill them -non stop-. If you have multiple hp-regen moves use them all. You should be able to chain like 5-10 in a row before needing to sit and heal for 20 seconds. I usually just find one camp, clear it out, afk for 15min, come back, clear it out again, etc.
Reason: Many people say to start coblyns at this point but i find that they don't respawn fast enough and as such are considerable slower to SP on.

Levels 18 - 20: Gridania: camp Emerald Moss
Kill young opo-opo's. There's a nice camp for them right near the hyrstmill hamlet. I still found marmots faster but if there is competition this is the place to be.

Levels 20 - 50:
COBLYNS. Nothing else. If you're going to solo, solo coblyns. Simple as that. Enjoy a month of grinding on the exact same mobs. They are seriously the only efficient mob to solo grind on, and parties seem to be slower. Use YG and search coblyn for a reference to their locations and levels and such.

Teaming up 20 - 50: If you -really- want to party you're only 2 real options are behests and leves. However from many people I have talked to, soloing coblyns are still considerably faster.




Thank you, Good luck on your adventures. If you have any suggestions for alternative places to SP or strategies to level in parties, please post them.
-Azury Ariella



Levels 20 - 50:

COBLYNS.

Any other option? they only give me less 50sp!

So this is all the game content lol! rats and some crabs lol NM 1 shot me.
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Somehow I doubt Con/Thm will have such an easy time.

I'm about to level those for some abilities for Arch. I'm getting on the broken Archer bandwagon before the nerf stick hits.
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you can do whatever you want from 20-50 but coblyns are the most efficient and nothing else comes close to it.
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SE stated they want players to reach the 20's faster, hence the level cap changes. I'm not surprised you can get to rank 20 in ~20 hours by doing nothing but pure efficiency grinding. I also wouldn't call this broken. Making rank 20 easily available to the casual solo players means it's going to be incredibly easy for the hard-core. I would call this "working as intended". Your "one day" equates to a week or two for a casual player.

After rank 20 is a different story of course.

Edited, Dec 21st 2010 1:23pm by Hydragyrum
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KCZY wrote:

Levels 20 - 50:

COBLYNS.

Any other option? they only give me less 50sp!

So this is all the game content lol! rats and some crabs lol NM 1 shot me.


Azury isnt just talking about colbyns around brush/drybone.

In the early 20s colbyns in nawana mines give about 90-100sp.. mid to late 20s around 70-80
In early 30s... (i suggest bring a buddy) but in copperbell colbyns give about 100-110.
While duoing in there I have seen rank 40-45s soloing these no problem no idea what kind of sp they are getting.

No idea beyond there as I am rank 30.

If I misunderstood your response, my apologies, but killing colbyns for less than 50 sp means you are on the wrong ones.
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edge1006 wrote:
KCZY wrote:

Levels 20 - 50:

COBLYNS.

Any other option? they only give me less 50sp!

So this is all the game content lol! rats and some crabs lol NM 1 shot me.


Azury isnt just talking about colbyns around brush/drybone.

In the early 20s colbyns in nawana mines give about 90-100sp.. mid to late 20s around 70-80
In early 30s... (i suggest bring a buddy) but in copperbell colbyns give about 100-110.
While duoing in there I have seen rank 40-45s soloing these no problem no idea what kind of sp they are getting.

No idea beyond there as I am rank 30.

If I misunderstood your response, my apologies, but killing colbyns for less than 50 sp means you are on the wrong ones.


yeah. if you can't handle the higher level ones that give you 90-100 sp its still more efficient to just mass-kill the lower level ones, as long as you kill slower than it takes for them to respawn.
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Thank you.
This is a very handy guide and is helping me level up my sub skills. Working on CON...LNC is next.

Edited, Dec 24th 2010 12:57am by CannonDub
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What I did to level my "subs" to 20 was:


1-11: Marmots and Coblyns around camp Black Bush.

*warp to LL and grab Skull Valley leves, then head there*

11-16: Dodos and Plains Rats around Skull Valley. Behests if/when available.

16-20: Leves you grabbed earlier. Then Dodos and bees west of SV. Behests if/when available.


Easy rank 1-20. :)

Note: you will hit surplus at rank 18.
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Wow, what an inventive guide! Let me sit in one area doing nothing but grinding on the same mob all day long...

Sorry, I'd rather spend my time doing leves with my LS, soloing when I want to, doing faction leves, doing behests, and enjoying the different areas in the game. I'm glad YOU'RE answer to everything is Coblyns, however that's not MY answer. It might be a bit slower to do other things, but I'm also having a **** of a lot more fun than just sitting in one spot for hours on end. This is an absolutely awful guide imo, not because it is necessarily wrong (in its idea of the FASTEST way to level), but in the fact that it will completely burn you out of a game that certainly has a lot more to do than just grind on Coblyns.

Sometimes it just amazes me how little some people in this game actually try out. Have you actually TRIED partying at all? My LS and I do group leves almost daily and while the SP isn't amazing, it's a **** of a lot more fun than solo and we still net 10-20k sp in a few hours. We also do behests which net us 3-5k sp per pop. We also try out really tough mobs just to see how much we can take before we wipe. To me, the game is about finding a challenge and having fun, not grinding mindlessly. I'm not going to argue that the game isn't favoring the mindless grind right now, but that is certainly not the only viable way to level. Pull that wool from over your eyes and enjoy what the game has now.

Have you even TRIED a battle regimen (no, they AREN'T broken)? How about a decapacitating WS on certain mobs? Actually working in a competent party on tough mobs? That to me is fun, and something that unless you've given a chance, you clearly don't understand all that the game has to offer.
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I'm not going to argue that the game isn't favoring the mindless grind right now, but that is certainly not the only viable way to level. Pull that wool from over your eyes and enjoy what the game has now.

So, you're thinking that people who follow this guide are completely unaware of other ways to level, and probably wouldn't have done... anything, really, in the absence of this guide, because they didn't know about the other things you mention?

It strikes me as a little bit more likely that most people are aware of the other, less efficient options, and will do less efficient things when they want variety, and will do this when they want efficiency.


Edited, Dec 24th 2010 3:43am by Caesura
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Wow, what an inventive guide! Let me sit in one area doing nothing but grinding on the same mob all day long...

Sorry, I'd rather spend my time doing leves with my LS, soloing when I want to, doing faction leves, doing behests, and enjoying the different areas in the game. I'm glad YOU'RE answer to everything is Coblyns, however that's not MY answer. It might be a bit slower to do other things, but I'm also having a **** of a lot more fun than just sitting in one spot for hours on end. This is an absolutely awful guide imo, not because it is necessarily wrong (in its idea of the FASTEST way to level), but in the fact that it will completely burn you out of a game that certainly has a lot more to do than just grind on Coblyns.

Sometimes it just amazes me how little some people in this game actually try out. Have you actually TRIED partying at all? My LS and I do group leves almost daily and while the SP isn't amazing, it's a **** of a lot more fun than solo and we still net 10-20k sp in a few hours. We also do behests which net us 3-5k sp per pop. We also try out really tough mobs just to see how much we can take before we wipe. To me, the game is about finding a challenge and having fun, not grinding mindlessly. I'm not going to argue that the game isn't favoring the mindless grind right now, but that is certainly not the only viable way to level. Pull that wool from over your eyes and enjoy what the game has now.

Have you even TRIED a battle regimen (no, they AREN'T broken)? How about a decapacitating WS on certain mobs? Actually working in a competent party on tough mobs? That to me is fun, and something that unless you've given a chance, you clearly don't understand all that the game has to offer.


look mr troll, if you bothered to read the first few lines i mention quite clearly

"If you want to have fun (instead of being efficient) please try my old guide which is only updated on zam. It still works to 20: Old Guide

And link to that old guide.

I've noticed you trolling in a number of threads now. I understand you are a fan boy and would love this game if the reverted it to a game of pong with sephiroth as the ball, but i personally don't care. If you want to leave opinions in my thread try to do it politely next time. And i'm pretty sure i've tried a lot more in this game than you have.

Open beta I posted an exploration guide on here with coord's to most of the unreleased zones.
I've been to pretty well every leve crystal and to every part of every map that ive managed to reach by now (a few parts i haven't got to. not sure if they are closed off, or if there were just too high mobs in the way in caves)
I've written 2 guides now covering efficient ways on how to exp
I was the second legit 50 mrd on my server
I've done every nm and numerous factions
and ive prob done every battle leve about 10 times now.
I'm also a week or 2 away from every job 20+
I also use battle regimens regularly.

TL/DR
Don't assume that i don't try things out in this game. There is no wool over my eyes. I made it clear this guide is about efficiency and linked to a guide for alternatives + fun. STOP TROLLING


Edited, Dec 24th 2010 5:50pm by Azurymber
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SE stated they want players to reach the 20's faster, hence the level cap changes. I'm not surprised you can get to rank 20 in ~20 hours by doing nothing but pure efficiency grinding. I also wouldn't call this broken. Making rank 20 easily available to the casual solo players means it's going to be incredibly easy for the hard-core. I would call this "working as intended". Your "one day" equates to a week or two for a casual player.

After rank 20 is a different story of course.

Edited, Dec 21st 2010 1:23pm by Hydragyrum


I've played for roughly a month and my highest rank is 13 Weaver.

Highest DOW is 8 Marauder.

So yeah... hardcore players can get there reeeeeeeeeeal fast. Us normal people, not so much.
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I just got CON to 20 in one day yesterday. Pretty much soloed til about 14-15, when it starts to kinda slow down a bit. Then did a bunch of leves with another CON with them all set to legion and just manaburned everything for huge exp. I got fatigue a little after reaching 18. but was able to get the last 2 levels by soloing blues/greens(dire rates, dodo, ews around Bloodshore in between doing behest every hour.

I did it wearing nothing but the wand, hempen cowl, and hempen slops.

All in all it was pretty easy doing it in one day. But it is something I don't think I want to do again any time soon, it was pretty mind numbing. With CON, I could see doing it much much faster then I did if you had a lot of people to do leves with. 2 CONs spamming AOEs on legion nets an easy 300-500 a kill.

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Azurymber wrote:
Levels 20 - 50:
COBLYNS. Nothing else. If you're going to solo, solo coblyns. Simple as that. Enjoy a month of grinding on the exact same mobs. They are seriously the only efficient mob to solo grind on, and parties seem to be slower. Use YG and search coblyn for a reference to their locations and levels and such.


I was looking specifically for Coblyns Rank 20-30. This info is in the ZAM Database:

Name: Iron coblyn
Location: Nanawa Mines
Rank: 23 - 28

The entrance to Nanawa Mines is at 27,20 (27 is east/west, 20 is north/south) which is directly north of Camp Black Brush.
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Wow, what an inventive guide! Let me sit in one area doing nothing but grinding on the same mob all day long...

Sorry, I'd rather spend my time doing leves with my LS, soloing when I want to, doing faction leves, doing behests, and enjoying the different areas in the game. I'm glad YOU'RE answer to everything is Coblyns, however that's not MY answer. It might be a bit slower to do other things, but I'm also having a **** of a lot more fun than just sitting in one spot for hours on end. This is an absolutely awful guide imo, not because it is necessarily wrong (in its idea of the FASTEST way to level), but in the fact that it will completely burn you out of a game that certainly has a lot more to do than just grind on Coblyns.

Sometimes it just amazes me how little some people in this game actually try out. Have you actually TRIED partying at all? My LS and I do group leves almost daily and while the SP isn't amazing, it's a **** of a lot more fun than solo and we still net 10-20k sp in a few hours. We also do behests which net us 3-5k sp per pop. We also try out really tough mobs just to see how much we can take before we wipe. To me, the game is about finding a challenge and having fun, not grinding mindlessly. I'm not going to argue that the game isn't favoring the mindless grind right now, but that is certainly not the only viable way to level. Pull that wool from over your eyes and enjoy what the game has now.

Have you even TRIED a battle regimen (no, they AREN'T broken)? How about a decapacitating WS on certain mobs? Actually working in a competent party on tough mobs? That to me is fun, and something that unless you've given a chance, you clearly don't understand all that the game has to offer.


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#30 Dec 30 2010 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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i dislike this guide for one reason: EVERYONE IS KILLING COBLYNS. there is no decent camp anymore because with more than one person at any one of thee camps it is overcrowded an that equals less xp for all of us. it is extremely frustrating that i have to battle with someone else, usually of a higher level that should've moved onto another camp, for a decent amount of xp!
#31 Dec 30 2010 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Replace guide with game and we share the same opinion
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#32 Dec 30 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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this guide is mainly for 1-20 as it says in the topic.... coblyns are 20+.... I just mention them as a direction to go in. does anyone actually read the guide? o_O
#33 Dec 30 2010 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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azury i think you did a great job of writing this up, and i give you a thumbs up for that. however, people need an alternative to fighting one mob and only soloing. the blame is on SE for this one. the party system is too hard to figure out compared to 11, for most people. but, why would anyone want to figure it out anyways? as of right now its just a big waste of time. IF SE wants to fix this game, imo, they need to try and get people to do things together. that includes partying for xp outside of behest and such. also, they NEED a repair house, similar to xi's AH. a place where people can drop off their damaged goods and come back in a day or two and someone will have fixed them. the current rate at which gear deteriorates is just ridiculous without a reasonable means to fixing items that one simply can not craft. basically what i'm trying to say is joe blow crafter comes along and see's in the list a broken iron lance, joe blow is a carpenter and can fix it for whatever the owner is offering (exactly like it is in bazaar). i believe this would solve a lot of headaches for many players. lastly, they NEED an AH!!! i know what everyone will be thinking, 'oh no, not 11 stupidity all over again' but if SE would make every non-(unique/rare/ex) item [this includes materials] purchasable from an NPC for a set price in some city then NO ONE could jack up an ordinary item in the AH and everyone would be happy WITHOUT the retarded craziness of the market wards. lets face it, the market wards are a f***ed up version of the AH anyways.
#34 Jan 01 2011 at 5:29 AM Rating: Good
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agreed. market wards are just inefficient AH's, especially with the new search feature.

You could have argued before that they were unique in the sense that no one could see average prices, but YG has ruined that by gathering data on prices and by showing the prices they are being sold at.
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