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#1 Dec 21 2010 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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I'm sure SE would like to know what it will take
to satisfy people enough that they'd be willing
to pay. People say that they enjoy the game, but
would that enjoyment be tempered somewhat if the
game wasn't free?
#2 Dec 21 2010 at 8:34 PM Rating: Good
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I'm already playing the game whenever I have some spare time, and have been since launch under the impression that I would be paying, so anytime they wanted to make me pay would be fine with me. I'll just continue to be happy as long as they take user feedback into consideration and continue to improve the game!
#3 Dec 21 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I will be willing to pay when the real content gets here, an AH, chocobos, air ships, lots of quests,way more leves, something to do besides kill the same mob over and over.
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#4 Dec 21 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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When they fix combat and SP
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I will be willing to pay when the real content gets here, an AH, chocobos, air ships, lots of quests,way more leves, something to do besides kill the same mob over and over.


I'm curious (and not even picking on you) but what if they added chocobos and airships but you couldn't ride a chocobo until you were rank 20 and couldn't ride an airship until rank 50?

As per the OP, my personal thoughts right now are that SE is working hard but the game isn't quite where it needs to be for me to start paying. As with the November patch, I'm once again back to needing to see at least a detailed plan for the next 3 months. If SE can put forward a plan that excites me, I'd be willing to start paying right away and continue paying even if there were reasonable delays in executing on their plans.

Edited, Dec 21st 2010 6:40pm by Aurelius
#6 Dec 21 2010 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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when this game is as good, or better than the long list of games going free to play. Alternately, if/when I felt it was worth the money.
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#7 Dec 21 2010 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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When there are enough NPC quests in the game to make it from r1-50 with minimal grinding and leve-questing. I want to feel like i'm actually accomplishing something while i'm ranking up, other than committing genocide on Coblyns or repeating the same quest over and over again via leves.
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#8 Dec 21 2010 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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When it includes all of the common-sense MMO mechanics that SE figured out while running FFXI (or, ****, learned from watching almost any other successful game out there).

Seriously, no inventory sorting at launch?

They're slowly getting to all this stuff, but I won't feel justified in paying until the game reaches the same quality of basic play mechanics as FFXI. I expect a new game to have limited content, but I won't pay until I feel like SE didn't take basic gameplay back a step. It doesn't have to be the same as FFXI, but it can't be worse.
#9 Dec 21 2010 at 8:53 PM Rating: Default
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When there is something at end game that would validate the point of doing the horrible grinding :)
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#10 Dec 21 2010 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
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I dunno. I'd be paying right now if they made it mandatory.

If they put forth a plan tomorrow and said as of [tomorrow] we'll be charging accounts. (More reasonable would be Jan 1, but if it were tomorrow...) I'd be paying I guess.

I love that its free right now, but I'd play it either way.
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#11 Dec 21 2010 at 9:10 PM Rating: Default
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After they add side quests, make combat less crappy, add an AH, a mailbox system, and open up new non-copy paste zones.

So probably never.
#12 Dec 21 2010 at 10:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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If SE keeps updating the game at the rate they have been recently, I would be quite happy paying a monthly fee in 1-2 months.
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#13 Dec 21 2010 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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In light of the massive improvement (and future planned improvements) to the market system, how many people who said "AH" would reconsider?
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Aurelius wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I will be willing to pay when the real content gets here, an AH, chocobos, air ships, lots of quests,way more leves, something to do besides kill the same mob over and over.


I'm curious (and not even picking on you) but what if they added chocobos and airships but you couldn't ride a chocobo until you were rank 20 and couldn't ride an airship until rank 50?

Edited, Dec 21st 2010 6:40pm by Aurelius


I feel like that even if they implement that, those are goals to achieve. So even if Chocobos were 30 or 40, then you will have a lot of incentive to progress levels. Right now the only real goals is either finish story and reach Level cap. I think most people that dislike the game is just because there isn't that many carrots on a stick to chase.

I didn't mind the grind when you have a good goal to grind for, such as in FFXI, I kept leveling because I heard you could ride chocobos, at 20, at 30 you unlock new jobs, and then go for AF gear etc etc, each tier of level had something that was really worth going for. IMO that is the real issue SE will need to address for me and the rest of people. Just need to wait it out :D
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I'd be willing to pay in 3 minutes but anything before that and I'm canceling my account.
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#16 Dec 21 2010 at 11:11 PM Rating: Default
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The game needs a significant amount of content adding before I'd pay for it.
#17 Dec 21 2010 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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I've been willing (and expecting) to pay for the last two months. The game has its fair share of issues, most of which are now corrected, but as long as im playing and enjoying something why shouldn't I be just as glad to pay a monthly fee? Mind you, im also the person who paid for a monthly subscription on Phantasy Star Universe and Phantasy Star Online, so I guess that says a lot about my online tastes.

Still, the game will improve with time and more content and features will be added. What is better is that we get to see it evolve every step of the way.
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#18 Dec 21 2010 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
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i dont mind paying or not.. but as long as they keep "improving" the game for the better or step by step its cool
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#19 Dec 21 2010 at 11:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know. They're doing a good job banging on the UI and getting things to the point that, well, they should have been before launch. I'm spending less time fighting the game and more time playin' it, if you know what I mean. At the same time, I don't know that I'd KEEP playing for all that long. At some point they're going to have to go ahead and finish the game; they didn't put all that jazz with the airships and giant flyin' beasties in the opening movie without any intention of having ANY of that in the game, after all.

Getting up in rank is fine and dandy, but people are doing it on spec, mostly - they want to be ready for new content, not so much because the content in place is particularly compelling them to get that high. It's going to take a steady stream of that (or one great smacking lump) in order for people to keep interested.
#20 Dec 21 2010 at 11:53 PM Rating: Decent
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tylerbee wrote:
When they fix combat and SP


LauroS wrote:
i dont mind paying or not.. but as long as they keep "improving" the game for the better or step by step its cool


Basically both of these if SE simply maned up and said "we need to improve this this and this and we expect to be addressing by this time." I would be willing to pay. Right now combat and SP are the biggest things. Content if its not planned takes time and with a new time its likely going to take a lot of it the fix on SP and Combat will leave players something to do while they wait level up!
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mainvein wrote:
tylerbee wrote:
When they fix combat and SP


LauroS wrote:
i dont mind paying or not.. but as long as they keep "improving" the game for the better or step by step its cool


Basically both of these if SE simply maned up and said "we need to improve this this and this and we expect to be addressing by this time." I would be willing to pay. Right now combat and SP are the biggest things. Content if its not planned takes time and with a new time its likely going to take a lot of it the fix on SP and Combat will leave players something to do while they wait level up!

All of this. Give me a specific plan and a reasonable time to have it repaired and I will pony up my fee without hesitation.
We all want the game to succeed and paying will be part of that. but zomg stop glossing over the party mechanics. Make battle regimens at least somewhat easy to use and understand, make party experience gains make sense, and fix the terribad targeting mechanics(even more than they have done so far).
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mainvein wrote:
tylerbee wrote:
When they fix combat and SP


LauroS wrote:
i dont mind paying or not.. but as long as they keep "improving" the game for the better or step by step its cool


Basically both of these if SE simply maned up and said "we need to improve this this and this and we expect to be addressing by this time." I would be willing to pay. Right now combat and SP are the biggest things. Content if its not planned takes time and with a new time its likely going to take a lot of it the fix on SP and Combat will leave players something to do while they wait level up!


They have a roadmap for this. And I expect to see notes about the first 2011 update by Jan 1st as to when and what we can hope to added to the list given to us from nov.
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#23 Dec 22 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I will be willing to pay when the real content gets here, an AH, chocobos, air ships, lots of quests,way more leves, something to do besides kill the same mob over and over.


this, i love FF played most of SE games, but this game does not deserve a monthly subscription until all the above are in the game.
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#24 Dec 22 2010 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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If SE will let me ride out the free play till Feb or March I'll be happy to pay them. Figure my game cost me $75 for the CE...and at $13 per month I'll have gotten MY monies worth in that amount of time.
#25 Dec 22 2010 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
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When there are real non-repeatable quests to do.

That's it that's all.

It'll make the NPC's worth talking to and provide variety to gameplay.

Sometimes I miss finding a tree and trading an item to it in the middle of the night which prove a rumor heard in Windurst to be real. Riding a chocobo race in impossible time-limit to finally get the best weapon for Tidus. Playing triple-triad in Treno to break up the grind and get that awesome card. Planning on what are the materia I want for Cloud's final blade and then finding them in the world.

Those moments make me wait for something equal to be seen in XIV.
#26 Dec 22 2010 at 3:47 AM Rating: Decent
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seiferdincht wrote:


Sometimes I miss finding a tree and trading an item to it in the middle of the night which prove a rumor heard in Windurst to be real. Riding a chocobo race in impossible time-limit to finally get the best weapon for Tidus. Playing triple-triad in Treno to break up the grind and get that awesome card. Planning on what are the materia I want for Cloud's final blade and then finding them in the world.

Those moments make me wait for something equal to be seen in XIV.


OMG you brought back old memories sir.
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#27 Dec 22 2010 at 4:12 AM Rating: Good
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I'd be willing to pay the monthly fee when I can feel that I can actually suggest this game to my friends without making excuses for its shortcomings.

Take that as you will.
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#28 Dec 22 2010 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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As others have said: When they fix the SP scaling.
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#29 Dec 22 2010 at 5:50 AM Rating: Good
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I would pay for it from the day the first trial was supposed to have run out. I have 6 months scheduled to be billed since the first day I started and never changed that.

I have enjoyed the game from day one, and with every patch it gets even better, so I for one would have definately pay for it.

It is the only game I have played since CE release, so even if I had been paying for it all this time, it has more then paid for itself especially considering that some games you can win under 10 hours now adays.
#30 Dec 22 2010 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Honestly, after yesterday's update, I'd start today.
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#31 Dec 22 2010 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
I will be willing to pay when the real content gets here, an AH, chocobos, air ships, lots of quests,way more leves, something to do besides kill the same mob over and over.

Then i think you should come back here in about 2-3 years from now on ^^"
#32 Dec 22 2010 at 9:26 AM Rating: Good
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I'll be willing to pay when there's an Auction House, and when there is a better payment option than C&B or Crysta Currency.

The inability to sell or purchase an item in under 90 seconds in a game that relies on the ability to sell and purchase items is absurd. People complain about combat not working because the game revolves around combat. People complain about crafting not working because the game revolves around crafting, and yet when it comes to the economy, a third thing that the game revolves around, people seem to be willing to accept "close enough" solutions. I'm not.

As for the payment, I don't want to buy arbitrary points in bulk amounts and have to keep manually refilling them, and I don't want to have to deal with a company that I've heard a fair amount of negative stories for. I was asked not to mention -who- said it, because it was someone who is involved in a certain premier FFXIV gaming site that shall remain nameless, but I was told about how terrible Click and Buy is, and not only do I trust my source, but if I named them, you'd trust them too.

So yeah. I want a reliable, expedient way to purchase and sell goods at prices that don't leave me wondering if I got ripped off, and I want to pay SE via an automatic monthly charge with a method I trust that doesn't make me feel uncomfortable.

Two things. I could live without content, without chocobos, without airships, without anything else... I would happily pay a subscription fee if they never fixed anything else but these things.

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#33 Dec 22 2010 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
Bah I was just about to make this post.

I would be willing to pay for the game in its current state. I've played a lot of hours this last week and have been enjoying the game, that was really the metric I would measure paying for the game, not any specific features.

Also with the aggressive updates I think SE has really shown their commitment to both the game and the player base, so I don't see the game going under like so many other MMOs.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2010 10:25am by Lamnethx
#34 Dec 22 2010 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
It's not the monthly fee that's the tipping point for me. Ask "When would you be ready to recommend and strongly defend this game to a friend" and I'd say "Not yet, but when they add more story and content (e.g., HNMs) and (hopefully) addback party-play SP bonus".

Crafting is fine, battle is fine, mobs are fine, trade/wards are fine. The mechanics and infrastructure is all fine. Could use tweaks but is fine.
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#35 Dec 23 2010 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd be willing to pay right now...I'd rather pay the monthly fee and "help SE get this game done", than not paying and seeing SE calling it a failure and stopping it completely at some point.

FFXIV has so much potential and who knows how long SE is willing to put effort into the game, before they stop it.
I know I will love FFXIV for what it will be in the future alone, but I want to see this future and not risk that it never comes to that :/
#36 Dec 23 2010 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd pay right now, especially if payment was required only with a promise of monthly updates instead of quarterly ones until the game is in full stride.
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#37 Dec 23 2010 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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Now would be fine. I think the game could still use a lot of work and content but I am enjoying it....
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#38 Dec 23 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Perrin.. I want monthly updates forever, not the quarterly ones. This pace is far better and will keep raising the hardcore bar further and further away for them. Even though I will struggle to keep up one day I will get up there with them.

I hope FFXIV continues to update at this rapid pace.
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#39 Dec 23 2010 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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For me it is not as much of an issue of when i will pay (i would have gladly done that as soon as the 1st 30 day trial ran out), but i will no be recommending it to my friends until there is more content (mostly in the name of quests). I am currently 110% satisfied with the game due to the rate of improvements, listening to feedback, and transparency of the development team.
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I'd be willing to pay once more story and other things to do are added. I want more content mainly in anyway possible from more alternative activities to do besides guild leves to having more story-enhanced quests/missions besides the already pretty good main storyline. I remember they mentioned a casino coming to Uldah sometime, but no time frame stated. I would really like that for something to do when I don't have much time.
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#41 Dec 23 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Now's fine with me. I plan on playing free or pay, as long as I have the time and the servers are up!
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#42 Dec 25 2010 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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when my friend ask me about FF 14 and i don't have to go "ermmmmmmmm...." while thinking of 101 things to change the topic...
but srly,if paying a few months of bills will help SE to improve the game, then count me in.
#43 Dec 25 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
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I'd be happy to do so now, and every patch they bring out with content would make me even happier to do so. An auction house would kill the game for me and make me leave.
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Absolutely, this game is in a payable state now.
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Aurelius wrote:
I'm curious (and not even picking on you) but what if they added chocobos and airships but you couldn't ride a chocobo until you were rank 20 and couldn't ride an airship until rank 50?


I'm also curious (and also not picking on you) but how many people aren't already there or close? It's obvious that with the omission of content (mainly quest related) that this game will not be expanding or lifting the level cap any time soon... With all of this in mind, what really is the point of adding content to the game? Granted that some of it will be late game leves, quests and NMs... do you think we can expect content that would have kept people rank 10-30 occupied to make it feel like more of a transition and less of a grind?

I'm not currently playing the game for this reason. Not much meat in the middle and I was hoping it might be added before now, but I don't think there is any point for me to pick this game up in the future if all that is added is functional marketplace and modes of transportation.
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I would be willing ot pay the fee when SE implements an AH, the wards system is stilll too rough.
Leave wards in as is and tweak it a bit but they should add an AH to complement the wards.

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I will not pay for a game that doesnt have Chocobos I can ride and airships that i can fly in. The rest is just fluff!!!

That is my standards of judgement.
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#47 Dec 26 2010 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Im willing to pay when theres more to do in this game, as it is i only play it for about hour an half all it takes me to do the same boreing leves and theres nothing asle to do, no side quest or missions. the market ward still sucks even with the search it does not show what the price of the items its going for then you still have to look thru them all any ways to see the price, i did try it and found the retainer and the items was going for 3mil O.o?. if it show the price of the item with the search finding the item will go faster but still take about the same time as befor to find some thing. so an AH should be put in befor ill pay for the game.
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sorry about the malti post the fourm had messed up when i was making the post... so if a admen could remove the last 3 of my post

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#51 Dec 26 2010 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess what they should actually do, is make the game pay to play, when they're actually willing to stand behind it. As long as they are saying "we're still working on improving the experience and gain the customer's trust", it should be free.
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