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#1 Dec 23 2010 at 10:40 AM Rating: Default
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Alright, so I just started fishing. I'm doing every piece of advice people have given me, but I still can't catch anything >_< anyone know the exact thing to do? T_T
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#2 Dec 23 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Lug worm for ocean fishing.
Moth pupa for freshwater fishing.

If you use wrong type of bait you will not get fish. Though fishing is slow and a lot of no bites happen to me as well.
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#3 Dec 23 2010 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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or use bloodwurm for everything
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#4 Dec 23 2010 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Been useing lugworms, but, I'll try the bloodworms. Lots of no bites is aggravating >< XD
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#5 Dec 23 2010 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
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Fishing is by far the biggest pain of the 3 DoL jobs simply because of the fact that you can fail to hook the fish and get to the **** minigame in the first place. (And I'm sorry to say, but the minigames for DoL are annoying enough without this.)

ANYWAY! With the recent changes to fishing, I find fishing in Limsa to be far more annoying than anywhere else. My suggestion, while you are still learning, go and get yourself a chocobo lure and head to Ul'Dah in the fountain or Thanalan and fish there. The fish bite on the lure pretty well and you rarely run the chance of losing it unless you botch the catch pretty bad (but it can happen so watch it.) In Gridania-- well, the black shroud, a crow lure tends to work better in my experience. I hear crayfish balls are pretty popular in the rivers as well if you have any cooking skill.
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#6 Dec 23 2010 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Read your bait type, until a few updates ago i used mined pill bugs for everything even ocean fishing on the ship.Now they're worthless. use the freshwater bait on streams and lakes that's the only way I get bites in The Black Shroud.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 1:30pm by Warmech

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 1:30pm by Warmech
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#7 Dec 23 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I am working on a fishing guide right now.

Here is a tip that might help you get a few ranks - the first ranks are the hardest cause you just don't have anything helping you catch fish. Also - Piety and Dexterity are fishing stats - try adding some points. Here is the first entry in my WIP fishing guide. It may help


Grade 1 spearfishing in the Black Shroud

Loot to Use, Sell or give to a Friend:
-Dart frogs (35+ Alchemist synth - 3 frogs equal 1 disabling powder)
Suggested Tools:
-Bronze Gig

If you know an alchemist over rank 35 who you would like to help out, the very best way to rank up fisher from 1-5 is using your bronze gig on spearfishing points in the Black Shroud. Dart frogs are plentiful on these points and the nodes are located fairly closely together.

These frogs are good skill ups for ALC post 35 and are the source of disabling potions. I have heard these potions are useful in NM fights so you may be able to get a decent price for these items if you are so inclined.

Downsides: Unfortunately spearfishing nodes are a pain if more than one person are trying to use them. The way they work is you need to deplete each of them to refresh the nodes but if someone else is camping your nodes or comes across them randomly and depletes them, you will find yourself running around and getting no SP.

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#8 Dec 23 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I wonder why they took river sand off dart frog recipe list? I've been frying me a mess o dart frogs from that stream just outside of Bent branch spearing with a Lev 10 gig. I'm getting some mighty fine sand from that spot,...literally dart frogs make river sand that makes fine sand to make any shards.Smiley: smile ... Thanks ACE I have about 3 stacks of frogs because my culinarin is Lev 15 and stil using a lev 7 pan my Alchemist will love this info.Smiley: smile

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#9 Dec 23 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Warmech wrote:
I wonder why they took river sand off dart frog recipe list? I've been frying me a mess o dart frogs from that stream just outside of Bent branch spearing with a Lev 10 gig. I'm getting some mighty fine sand from that spot,...literally dart frogs make river sand that makes fine sand to make any shards.Smiley: smile


Or you could just buy the sand at the alchemist guild. Each frog is worth like 10+ sand when sold.
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#10 Dec 23 2010 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Pil Bugs are for coastal fishing. Very nice for around LL because most of the bodies of water in La Noscea are on the coast. Moth Pupae seem to work very nicely for Thanalan and Black Shroud fishing. I've been fishing grade three nodes with them (started at rank 13 :P) and while I'm sure there's better bait, for cost and accessibility they're hard to beat. Lug Worms will work for La Noscea but are better used on the ferry and stick to the Pil Bugs for the coastal waters.
#11 Dec 23 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Bait aside, there is a method to the madness of fishing.

Start off selecting depth and wait.

If you get nothing, select depth again and wait,

else you can select to wait or jig. Wait does nothing that I can think of, so select jig.

At this point, I like to double tap on jig so I get perfectly in the center of the half circle gauge. If you hook the fish, it will remove some of your energy and give you a message. If not, you simple don't get the fish.

Generally speaking, if you do the double tap method you will either catch the fish or get a "you have a fish on the line but can't real it in" message. To catch a fish if you don't auto catch it, simply fish at about halfway down the semi circle to the left first. If you get the sparkle, you hit that same spot again and you will catch the fish.

If not, check out what it says. Usually it'll say the fish is taking line, which means you need to set the hook half way down the RIGHT side of the half circle this time. About half way down on the right side will do.

You will catch a fish / run out of energy but know what fish you almost caught 90% of the time with this method. The most this method has ever taken for me to catch a fish is actually 4 tries. Sometimes you only get 3 guesses, but with 4 guesses you can catch fish nearly 100% of the time.

I made a video showing my method. Will upload it to youtube later.
#12 Dec 23 2010 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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MetalSmith wrote:
Bait aside, there is a method to the madness of fishing.

Start off selecting depth and wait.

If you get nothing, select depth again and wait,

else you can select to wait or jig. Wait does nothing that I can think of, so select jig.


I use wait when I get a Nibble in the hopes that the next hit will be a Bite. I have a much higher success rate on the first jig with fish that bit as opposed to those that nibbled.

It's a hot and cold game. In most cases it's figuring out how to get it started to the point where you're fighting a fish that gets people stymied. Once the fish is on it's just a different widget for the same process as mining/botany.
#13 Dec 23 2010 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Really? I've never had a problem in either the alpha, beta or the current version getting fish :/

Bloodworms seem to be a good all around bait.
#14 Dec 23 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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MetalSmith wrote:
Really? I've never had a problem in either the alpha, beta or the current version getting fish :/

Bloodworms seem to be a good all around bait.


You notice it more when you're fishing well above your rank. Like...grade 3 waters at rank 13.

With Pil Bugs at coastal waters, I was routinely getting the message that the fish seemed to be biting on Pil Bugs followed by "Something big..."
#15 Dec 23 2010 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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MetalSmith wrote:
Bait aside, there is a method to the madness of fishing.

Start off selecting depth and wait.

If you get nothing, select depth again and wait,

else you can select to wait or jig. Wait does nothing that I can think of, so select jig.

At this point, I like to double tap on jig so I get perfectly in the center of the half circle gauge. If you hook the fish, it will remove some of your energy and give you a message. If not, you simple don't get the fish.

Generally speaking, if you do the double tap method you will either catch the fish or get a "you have a fish on the line but can't real it in" message. To catch a fish if you don't auto catch it, simply fish at about halfway down the semi circle to the left first. If you get the sparkle, you hit that same spot again and you will catch the fish.

If not, check out what it says. Usually it'll say the fish is taking line, which means you need to set the hook half way down the RIGHT side of the half circle this time. About half way down on the right side will do.

You will catch a fish / run out of energy but know what fish you almost caught 90% of the time with this method. The most this method has ever taken for me to catch a fish is actually 4 tries. Sometimes you only get 3 guesses, but with 4 guesses you can catch fish nearly 100% of the time.

I made a video showing my method. Will upload it to youtube later.


That's interesting method. However, I noticed that the chances of hooking the fish in the first jig is small; it usually takes 3 jigs in the "correct" direction to get the fish tired enough to be fished up. I noticed that if you jig in the "incorrect" direction, your remainder bar decreases really fast.

In other words, doing the double tapping, you start at the center, and then you would have 50/50 chance of getting it "correct" no matter which way you jig after the first jig.

So, my method is:

1st jig: jig at almost to the very end of either side of your choice (I usually choose the right side since it goes to the right first). 7/10 you will get, "you have hooked something, but you cannot reel it in."

2nd jig: pretty much to the middle, and it will definitely be the "correct" direction for the jig, so you will have the 4 things happening
1)fish is tired, but you cannot reel in (in this case, jig at the same spot, you can usually fish it up)
2)you take in some(or great deal of) line (meaning you jig in the "correct" direction, keep going)
3)the fish got away (2-3 kind of different message to mean about the same thing)
4)you reel in your fish
chances are that you get message #2

3rd jig: since the game will not treat you so well to let you reel in fish that easily, you will usually need to jig again. since on the second jig, you usually get the "you take in some (or great deal of) line, it means you just need to keep going with the jig direction. and you can usually fish up by 3rd jig.

in this method, you will actually never jig in the "wrong" direction which usually causes a big remainder loss.

this is just the way i do it, doesn't mean it's correct in any sense.
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#16 Dec 23 2010 at 7:35 PM Rating: Good
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Different water, different fish, different jig patterns. A good rule to follow is jig halfway right, then halfway left. If the first jig gives fish is tired down then jig the same spot otherwise go halfway left, if that says fish is taking line the fish is either at the top or the far right edge. Just experiment with it alittle and soon you know what jig pattern to follow in what water.

Bait is another matter, rank doesn't seem to matter much but the type does. I can outfish many a fisher higher rank then me on leves to catch specific fish using simple bloodworms, bonus to bloodworms is you can use it pretty much everywhere. Crow fly's are still my favorite, works wonders on most fish spots but not all fish will bite it, those fish tend to want live bait instead of lures.
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