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#52 Dec 24 2010 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
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mmm if SE does not do something about this fast...they are going for a long hard fall... not just for FF 14 but for their whole merchandise and its reputation as a company.
Heads is going to roll again in SE..
The new team must be so god **** pressure now..
#53 Dec 24 2010 at 8:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Game has been out for two months, gimme a break.
#54 Dec 24 2010 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I still think Alpha Protocol deserves this award. Such a huge letdown.
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#55 Dec 24 2010 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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i really hope future patches greatly improve xiv, i want it to be good!

im not playing until then however :/
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#56 Dec 24 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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a friend of mine keeps asking how the game is...
I list a few things that irritate me...one of which has just been solved (IMO) (the search function in wards). That fix in itself saves me hours of retainer searching... was even worse when you had to make the extra click via Main Menu.

Can't argue that more content is needed. The UI that I initially griped about.... I have become used to it.

I consider myself a casual player...was hardcore in ffxi for about 2 years.

I find I do my best to complete 6 battle leves and 8 DoH leves per cycle (was 3 DoW, 3 DoL (miner) and 8 DoH... but my miner outpaced my other jobs). This gets repetitive ... but I temper that with not joining an LS, no behest... and other 'casual' repercussions.

The game was released too early. I am torn between the "beta until ps3 release" and the "lets release an unfinished product, give some time for the absurdly high expectations to fall... then fix it into a realistically fun game" points of views.

The bottom line for me is.... I keep paying for it... and keep playing it.... it keeps getting better... and I like the pace in which things are moving in a positive direction.

Good or bad?... I vote passably good with lots of potential... give it three monthes and I bet I will have nothing to complain about.

#57 Dec 24 2010 at 9:04 PM Rating: Default
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Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(
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#58 Dec 24 2010 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
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The game could be shut down tomorrow and a bunch of you would still say it was the greatest thing ever.
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#59 Dec 24 2010 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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The game could be shut down tomorrow and a bunch of you would still say it was the greatest thing ever.


No, I realize it's far from perfect. I still enjoy playing it though, despite its flaws. I'd be deeply saddened by it being stopped when/if it does. But I'm not going to say its the greatest thing ever right now. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it.
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#60 Dec 24 2010 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.

In terms of games with no redeeming qualities SaGa Frontier comes to mind.

FFXIV isn't really on that list yet. Botched launch, yes. Is it fun? Marginally. But worst ever, no.

Let's see, Beyond the Beyond and Defenders of Oasis were fun as a kid, but I'm sure they are terrible.

I've played hundreds of games, tons of bad ones, especially when I rented them as a kid, but like SaGa Frontier I wouldn't know of them until my memory gets jogged.

#61 Dec 24 2010 at 9:29 PM Rating: Default
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Nobody is disputing that though. It's a thread about the fact FFXIV was nominated for worst game ever played and it won that award. It is the worst game ever. You enjoying it is irrelevant.
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#62 Dec 24 2010 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
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lambon wrote:
Nobody is disputing that though. It's a thread about the fact FFXIV was nominated for worst game ever played and it won that award. It is the worst game ever. You enjoying it is irrelevant.



The worst game according to who...exactly. Like someone said previously, opinions are like @$$xxxxx. I can tell you there are dozens of Wii games that have been regurgatated out that can't hold a candle. The content in this is still far more than you would get in one of those, especially F2P.
#63 Dec 24 2010 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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And yet you have the gall to come on here and say a bunch of us have our heads up our asses, basically attacking our intelligence for enjoying a game that others have voted to be bad. Once again, it doesn't have to be great to be enjoyable.
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#64 Dec 24 2010 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
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Kierk wrote:
Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.

In terms of games with no redeeming qualities SaGa Frontier comes to mind.

FFXIV isn't really on that list yet. Botched launch, yes. Is it fun? Marginally. But worst ever, no.

Let's see, Beyond the Beyond and Defenders of Oasis were fun as a kid, but I'm sure they are terrible.

I've played hundreds of games, tons of bad ones, especially when I rented them as a kid, but like SaGa Frontier I wouldn't know of them until my memory gets jogged.



I think a lot of people are missing the point, the video speaks of game's from 2010, so saga frontier has no relevance here, neither does Beyond the Beyond(Wich was an ok game, hard as Fu! but good game)

I think it says a lot more when people have to point to "Insert random pile of ****" and say "Hey atleast FFXIV is better than that" to justify this game lol

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Its just one of those things, you know a good portion of the votes for ANY game in that category had people that hadn't even played the game voting for it so what can ya do? I think the game has come a long way, and while it certainly isn't blowing people away I personally don't agree with this award.

Maybe if nothing had changed, yeah it would have deserved it, but I am actually enjoying the game and have been very pleased with how its changed /shrug. Doesn't mean i'm going to stop playing all the sudden because the majority of the people on gamespot make fun of and dislike the game. We'll see what they say about it next year. Oh and I still don't know why APB wasn't on that list, to me that really is the winner of that category.
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#66 Dec 24 2010 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!

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#67 Dec 24 2010 at 11:24 PM Rating: Default
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Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!
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#68 Dec 25 2010 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Ostia wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!


Ah.. all is forgiven. I lent my original copy to a friend that never gave it back. So then I had to buy another copy used for $60.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 2:20am by Libtech
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#69 Dec 25 2010 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, that'll teach you not to lend people your Xenogears. They will never give it back.

"Worst game everyone played in 2010" is NOT "Worst game ever". It just means that a lot of people bought the game and now there aren't that many people playing it. FFXIV sold 600,000+ copies or something. Total world population dropped to about 30-40k after the 1st 2 months. So, 90% of the people who bought the game didn't like it.
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They shipped 600k copies, as for units sold to customers, who knows, around 200-250K
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#71 Dec 25 2010 at 12:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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People who ***** about copy paste terrain clearly have never played most mmo's.
There's an enormous difference between the copy/pasting that developers need to do to conserve system resources and the copy/pasting that SE has done in FFXIV.

Traditional developer:
- Use a rock texture multiple times
- Use multiple moss screens to overlay on the rock to give a few rocks and a few moss layouts a lot of variety

FFXIV developers:
- Put together a massive chunk of the landscape
- Copy the entire block of land and copy and paste it multiple times

Do you see the difference?
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#72 Dec 25 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!


Ah.. all is forgiven. I lent my original copy to a friend that never gave it back. So then I had to buy another copy used for $60.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 2:20am by Libtech


I also loaned my copy of xenogears to a friend and never got it back :(
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Are these presenters forbidden from expressing any sort of emotion or something?
Seriously that man sounded like a robot. As though he'd rather be anywhere but there at that time. I can't believe people get paid for doing sh-t like this...
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#74 Dec 26 2010 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!


Ah.. all is forgiven. I lent my original copy to a friend that never gave it back. So then I had to buy another copy used for $60.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 2:20am by Libtech


If I could, I would rate you guys about for talking about Xenogears. Best video game squaresoft has ever released! I figure some of you would get a kick out of this. I just took this picture 1 week ago
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1362.snc4/163441_482919349215_515774215_5581912_3335908_n.jpg

Yay for the sealed copy of Xenogears that i still own. lol


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#75 Dec 26 2010 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol i love the fanboy banter. "It's just an opinion!"

But seriously, just play a game you enjoy playing, if you actually like FF14, play it noones stopping you. Just cause some/alot/whogivesash*twhatamountof people hate this game or think it's boring as **** doesn't mean you have to get angry at them, that's just their "opinion" of the game.

What I didn't enjoy about it stemmed way beyond the typical "I don't like the UI" or "Wtf No auction house!?!" or "WTF is up with this copy & paste terrain? It's like a 1980s dungeon crawler!" that you hear most people complain about. My main complaint is the boring grinding I had to deal with, the boring as **** stamina based combat and the whole level horizontally thing that didn't seem to work for me the way i wanted it to. Because even if I lvled multiple classes at the same time they could never co-exist as perfectly as I wanted them to due to slow as **** stamina regen and max stamina. Just cause you can use more abilities for playing multiple classes you won't have nowhere near enough stamina to ever use both jobs effectively as desired, let alone more then that. Then there's the problem with just spamming the basically auto-atk button to lvl up your classes. It was just so boring and even though the game was designed around being able to multi-class the implementation of it didn't work out well. (Wanna see a game that did multi-classing really well in my opinion? Look at guild wars and it was perfect from the RELEASE of Guild Wars, what a concept, but even with how much I enjoyed Guild Wars I didn't even stick around long enough for the first expansion due to lack of content)

I just think they failed on just about every aspect of what I find fun. Although I wish the game had been a lot better, but it seems to me the glory days of the FF series seem to be over. I just wish they'd go back to their roots and release a new game that's very similar to FF4 or 6. Maybe this horrible excuse for an MMO will entice them to make FF15 or 16 insanely good so they don't lose even more of their fans.

(While I understand 14 can be fixed, i'm gonna give it at least a year or 2 before i try to pick it back up again, because everything I've seen them patch/fix are very minor problems i had with the game, in order for me to enjoy it the entire class system, leveling system and combat system would basically have to be redesigned from the ground up)

As far as the announcers. Yea wtf is with the lack of any personality? Or are they just really, really asian? (Haha asian stereotypes are fun)

I can't believe it lost in the Most Disappointing game category though, I thought it was way ahead last time I checked the poll. I mean wtf is APB? Never even heard of that game and I get gaming magazines sent to my house every month... Guess I don't follow the sandbox gaming market as much as I used to or maybe they didn't want to give FF14 more bad awards?

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IT DID WIN Most Disappointing Game, they're just retarded.

Final Fantasy XIV Online 31% 10,633
APB 12% 4,133


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#76 Dec 26 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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elicuevas wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!


Ah.. all is forgiven. I lent my original copy to a friend that never gave it back. So then I had to buy another copy used for $60.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 2:20am by Libtech


If I could, I would rate you guys about for talking about Xenogears. Best video game squaresoft has ever released! I figure some of you would get a kick out of this. I just took this picture 1 week ago
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1362.snc4/163441_482919349215_515774215_5581912_3335908_n.jpg

Yay for the sealed copy of Xenogears that i still own. lol


TVGA


Hehe, thats a crime. Like a classic car, its begging to be played
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KujaKoF wrote:
elicuevas wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Libtech wrote:
Ostia wrote:
Osarion, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
I never played Unlimited SaGa, but SaGa Frontier was nearly unplayable to me.


How dare YOU! Gustav was awesome <.<

But the game sucked so bad :( i remember i saw it on gamepro a month before it released and i was really exited the game looked good, plus it was from Square, back then they delivered always, so i trades xenogears and tales of destiny for it <.<

That hurt me a lot :(



Blasphemy!!!!! Burn him/her!!!!



But but i bought it Back!!! Let me off with some lashing's or something XD!


Ah.. all is forgiven. I lent my original copy to a friend that never gave it back. So then I had to buy another copy used for $60.

Edited, Dec 25th 2010 2:20am by Libtech


If I could, I would rate you guys about for talking about Xenogears. Best video game squaresoft has ever released! I figure some of you would get a kick out of this. I just took this picture 1 week ago
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1362.snc4/163441_482919349215_515774215_5581912_3335908_n.jpg

Yay for the sealed copy of Xenogears that i still own. lol


TVGA


Hehe, thats a crime. Like a classic car, its begging to be played


Indeed, but that copy right now is worth probably around $100
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#79 Dec 30 2010 at 12:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kierk wrote:
Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.


Agreeing with this. I was disappointed by XIV at launch but it has been steadily improving and shows potential to get better. FFXIII, on the other hand, has zero chance of ever replacing the 15-20 hours worth of boring *** movie tunnel that precedes the "fun part" I keep hearing about.

That's one big difference between a single player console game and a multiplayer computer game: Content and features can be added to the latter to change it, whereas the former is either awesome forever or terrible forever.

As for that list... "everyone" played these games? Gamespot has a very skewed view of "everyone", methinks. I'd wager far more people played FF13 than FF14 at any given point for either game, just due to the nature of being a single player game on a console that most people have versus a computer game with insane graphics requirements releasing against that other MMORPG that everyone else is allegedly already playing.

I won't dispute that FFXIV was a disappointment to the bulk of the people who picked it up, but to call it "the worst game that everyone played" is a bit misleading.

EDIT: And to clarify, I'm not saying that all computer games are always better than all console games, always. There are many console games like Link the the Past and Final Fantasy Tactics that will remain classics forever compared to games like SWG that were good games that got DESTROYED by game changes.

Edited, Dec 30th 2010 1:56pm by Mikhalia
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Kierk wrote:
Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.

As for that list... "everyone" played these games? Gamespot has a very skewed view of "everyone", methinks. I'd wager far more people played FF13 than FF14 at any given point for either game, just due to the nature of being a single player game on a console that most people have versus a computer game with insane graphics requirements releasing against that other MMORPG that everyone else is allegedly already playing.

I won't dispute that FFXIV was a disappointment to the bulk of the people who picked it up, but to call it "the worst game that everyone played" is a bit misleading.


The problem with gamespot is it rigs the elections of these things, they purposely chose FFXIV with the other games on that list knowing it would win the catagory.

whats worse is how they offered up site achievements for voting for the winner too.

they also announced it the winner, when it was leading by only a few hundred votes, 3 weeks before voting ended!(**** its not supposed to end for almost 2 more weeks)
Now tell me how that makes sense?

So once it was declared the winner, even by those few hundred votes, all the site achievment whores vote for it, and nothing else, knowing that it will help them get the achievment for voting for winners.
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Vedis wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Kierk wrote:
Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.

As for that list... "everyone" played these games? Gamespot has a very skewed view of "everyone", methinks. I'd wager far more people played FF13 than FF14 at any given point for either game, just due to the nature of being a single player game on a console that most people have versus a computer game with insane graphics requirements releasing against that other MMORPG that everyone else is allegedly already playing.

I won't dispute that FFXIV was a disappointment to the bulk of the people who picked it up, but to call it "the worst game that everyone played" is a bit misleading.


The problem with gamespot is it rigs the elections of these things, they purposely chose FFXIV with the other games on that list knowing it would win the catagory.

whats worse is how they offered up site achievements for voting for the winner too.

they also announced it the winner, when it was leading by only a few hundred votes, 3 weeks before voting ended!(**** its not supposed to end for almost 2 more weeks)
Now tell me how that makes sense?

So once it was declared the winner, even by those few hundred votes, all the site achievment whores vote for it, and nothing else, knowing that it will help them get the achievment for voting for winners.


That's... dumb as ****. How can you possibly have an unbiased vote (not that any video game related vote involving Mario, Sonic, Link, Halo/Master Chief, or Final Fantasy, among other franchises could EVER be unbiased) when you show who is winning AND give incentives to vote for a certain person.

I mean, I never really take Gamespot's "votes" seriously (other than General Raam beating Sephiroth in round 1 of "Best Villain Ever"; thanks, /b/!) but I think I take them even LESS seriously now.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Kierk wrote:
Worst game ever?

In terms of expectations FFXIII.

As for that list... "everyone" played these games? Gamespot has a very skewed view of "everyone", methinks. I'd wager far more people played FF13 than FF14 at any given point for either game, just due to the nature of being a single player game on a console that most people have versus a computer game with insane graphics requirements releasing against that other MMORPG that everyone else is allegedly already playing.

I won't dispute that FFXIV was a disappointment to the bulk of the people who picked it up, but to call it "the worst game that everyone played" is a bit misleading.


The problem with gamespot is it rigs the elections of these things, they purposely chose FFXIV with the other games on that list knowing it would win the catagory.

whats worse is how they offered up site achievements for voting for the winner too.

they also announced it the winner, when it was leading by only a few hundred votes, 3 weeks before voting ended!(**** its not supposed to end for almost 2 more weeks)
Now tell me how that makes sense?

So once it was declared the winner, even by those few hundred votes, all the site achievment whores vote for it, and nothing else, knowing that it will help them get the achievment for voting for winners.


That's... dumb as ****. How can you possibly have an unbiased vote (not that any video game related vote involving Mario, Sonic, Link, Halo/Master Chief, or Final Fantasy, among other franchises could EVER be unbiased) when you show who is winning AND give incentives to vote for a certain person.

I mean, I never really take Gamespot's "votes" seriously (other than General Raam beating Sephiroth in round 1 of "Best Villain Ever"; thanks, /b/!) but I think I take them even LESS seriously now.



yep, thats what i was thinking too. i like it when they run these contests on the site, but with every contest, they add more site achievments and it makes the results totaly scewed from what they would be if people voted legit.

and i wont lie, i voted for mostly winners too(since most catagories i coulda cared less about the games)


they did this with the greatest hero and villian of all time contests they did too(which got even more unbiased votes when the companies they belonged too promised month long download discounts if their heros won, and thats not a joke at all)
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Auto-Assault wins hands down IMO!

Sorry, I didn't read any responses or watch the video.
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they did this with the greatest hero and villian of all time contests they did too(which got even more unbiased votes when the companies they belonged too promised month long download discounts if their heros won, and thats not a joke at all)


That's just... wow. There are no words.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Vedis wrote:
they did this with the greatest hero and villian of all time contests they did too(which got even more unbiased votes when the companies they belonged too promised month long download discounts if their heros won, and thats not a joke at all)


That's just... wow. There are no words.


yeah, you shoulda seen the forums based around those games, it became all about voting for it because "we need our cheaper downloadable content" "find ways to get more votes people were are losing now" and so on, /b/ was a massive indicator of this, except the ones doing it there disguised it as making other people lose for laughs, when it was just them trying to make their product win so they could get their discounts and so on.


this is why these **** player choice awards are so dumb all over the net, editors picks are alays alot less unbiased(depending on the site, some have massive hate for certain companies)

Edited, Dec 30th 2010 12:01pm by Vedis
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Hopefully when SWO comes out, everyone will see how bad of a game that is, and a worthless WoW ripoff, and forget about how bad of a game FF14 is. Anyways, the only reason that this game doesn't deserve the award of worst game everyone has played is before SE stopped posting server numbers, no one played this game. Everyone must have played this game first in order to have gotten that award and no one played it, thus it is a completely unfair award because it makes FF14 seem more popular than it really is.

Crafting: okay
Finding the items for crafting: sucks
The fact that you need a level 15 mob and a level 19 goldsmith to make a part for a level 3 item: insane and a PITA
The fact that it costs more for mats than you can hope to get selling a completed item: Means Washington DC politicians must have created this economy.
Finding the gear you want: sucks
Finding people talking in game: rare for say/shout
Lack of quests: annoying
Cooldown before you can retake a quest: going from a daily to an every-other-daily is a big downgrade
The amount of money you get as quest rewards in relation to the cost of acquiring level appropriate gear for someone starting off: Not enough.
Ability to color my gear reasonably close to what I want it to be, a la guild wars: Nonexistant
Graphics: Okay but too much copypasta
Combat: Fair at best, but too much grind without the every-other-dailies


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#88 Dec 30 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hey everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Personally I think Heavy Rain was the worst most broken (by broken I mean controls/story[especially the story]/presentation/difficulty curve were so bad that I literally can't think of anything that matches that level of failure on all fronts) game I've played in several years but that's just me.

It's also 60 times more interactive and flexible than XIII but that isn't a huge feat to accomplish.
In XIV everything works this doesn't make it a great game yet but it can become one.
#89 Dec 30 2010 at 4:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's also 60 times more interactive and flexible than XIII but that isn't a huge feat to accomplish.
In XIV everything works this doesn't make it a great game yet but it can become one.


I have something in my pants that is more interactive and flexible than XIII.

Because I -had- to go there
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#91 Dec 31 2010 at 3:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
seiferdincht wrote:
It's also 60 times more interactive and flexible than XIII but that isn't a huge feat to accomplish.
In XIV everything works this doesn't make it a great game yet but it can become one.


I have something in my pants that is more interactive and flexible than XIII.

Because I -had- to go there



I'm sure you do. Btw I agree with your earlier commetn on it.
The "fun part" is a big plain with monsters in it. That's it. It can hardly be compared to the exploration aspect in the overworlds of I-IX. Ten was incredibly linear but that didn't stop it from having a ton of enjoyable sidequests. Those were my favourite moments in X. After buying the guide for it a game that I thought was good turned great.

Funny how I always thought sidequests as filler content that I rarely do before game developers decided to ditch them. Now I'd do anything to get them back in games because everything I play feels so empty these days.
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Give me a 60 hour single player RPG (not counting sidequests) that is comprised of at most 3-5 hours total worth of cutscenes (not counting intro and ending, and maybe one long one in the middle, I'll give them that) with at least half a dozen playable characters (over a dozen is better), EACH with hashed out story lines, and more importantly, in a world where I -feel- like I'm making a difference (even if I'm not) rather than that I'm just along for the ride...

I'll preorder the collector's edition and pay it in full the day it's announced.
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People who ***** about copy paste terrain clearly have never played most mmo's. Go play WoW and tell me how many of their caves have the EXACT SAME LAYOUT. Literally, I think there are 3 cave designs in the whole game. It's extremely commonplace for games to copy paste terrain in order to save file space, and for a game that is as detailed and beautifully rendered as ffxiv, I'm really not surprised. I mean, if you really want the game to require an even BETTER graphics card and more processing power, then keep complaining about this and maybe SE will update it. But to complain about copy paste terrain when it has absolutely NO effect on your gameplay is just ridiculous.

As for the rest of the complaints, I'm so **** sick of people bashing this game. Since its release, the game has improved so much that I have a hard time believing this is still SE we are dealing with. No they haven't fixed everything yet, but they have given us timelines as to when fixes will be happening, and have stuck to those timelines in a way they never did with ffxi. They have done everything in their power to right the ship, including giving us the game for FREE to play until they can fix it to their standards and completely revamping their dev staff in order to meet player demands. If that isn't enough for you, just GTFO. I for one don't want to hear about all the whiny people who can't handle a little adversity while playing their free game.

Edited, Dec 24th 2010 2:05am by BartelX


Oh, caves are out in the world. As in above, ground, and easily seen over the rest of the terrain (like hills, mountains, trees, etc)?

Oh...

They're not?

Then guess what, that's not copy-pasted *TERRAIN*.

Blind fans can ignore this all you want, but there's never, *EVER* been a counter-argument that physically shows pictures and evidence that you can produce as much copy/pasted terrain as you can see in FFXIV. The most I've ever seen how of moronic "white knighting" on this issue is "World of Warcraft caves."

That's it. You mention the caves; mini-dungeonesque areas that can not be seen like trees, rocks, hills, roads, grass, and the edge of mountains can be. You've never tried, so your rebuttal fails horrendously.

If you don't personally notice it? That's fine as it's your own personal view of the world. But don't attempt to prove that "every other MMO" uses C/P'ed terrain to the extent Square-Enix does here, without EVER showing proof of your claim, and only citing the meme "look at WoW's caves LAWL!"

All it does is make you look foolish.

bsphil wrote:
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People who ***** about copy paste terrain clearly have never played most mmo's.
There's an enormous difference between the copy/pasting that developers need to do to conserve system resources and the copy/pasting that SE has done in FFXIV.

Traditional developer:
- Use a rock texture multiple times
- Use multiple moss screens to overlay on the rock to give a few rocks and a few moss layouts a lot of variety

FFXIV developers:
- Put together a massive chunk of the landscape
- Copy the entire block of land and copy and paste it multiple times

Do you see the difference?


They'll never see the difference. In their mind, every developer does the same thing SE did but doesn't catch flak for it because they're not SE.

Edited, Jan 1st 2011 12:46am by StrijderVechter
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Excuse my language but are people really that **** hurt over the copied terrain? Can we let it go now? Are there any remnants left of the dead horse? The complaints department is a few threads up in a sticky if you need it.
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Excuse my language but are people really that **** hurt over the copied terrain? Can we let it go now? Are there any remnants left of the dead horse? The complaints department is a few threads up in a sticky if you need it.


I'm not hurt at all, and perhaps you need to learn to read. I'm simply stating that clinging to the belief that randomly stating other MMOs do the exact same thing Square-Enix has done (hint: they don't) without anything to back up their claims outside of "LOL WOW CAVES!" is moronic.

Frankly, CPed terrain is the least of their worries.

Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Give me a 60 hour single player RPG (not counting sidequests) that is comprised of at most 3-5 hours total worth of cutscenes (not counting intro and ending, and maybe one long one in the middle, I'll give them that) with at least half a dozen playable characters (over a dozen is better), EACH with hashed out story lines, and more importantly, in a world where I -feel- like I'm making a difference (even if I'm not) rather than that I'm just along for the ride...

I'll preorder the collector's edition and pay it in full the day it's announced.


Yeah, the only two I could even think of would be Tales of Abyss/Vesperia on sheer size of the actual game. Even then, it's heavily driven on either grinding out items/levels/gald or engaging in cutscenes/voice skits. Games are just getting shorter and shorter due to too much time being spent on the cutscenes and voice acting, instead of the meat and potatoes.

Edited, Jan 1st 2011 3:28am by StrijderVechter
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I'm not hurt at all, and perhaps you need to learn to read. I'm simply stating that clinging to the belief that randomly stating other MMOs do the exact same thing Square-Enix has done (hint: they don't) without anything to back up their claims outside of "LOL WOW CAVES!" is moronic.


Maybe you should learn to read. The topic is old dead and trying to bury it self. Anyone who cares enough to argue about the copy and pasted terrain at this point in the game's growth needs to find better things to do.

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Frankly, CPed terrain is the least of their worries.


I agree, I'm sure you can find something better to argue about constructively on the forums.

Edited, Jan 1st 2011 3:34am by ThePacster
#98cornyboob, Posted: Jan 01 2011 at 3:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This guy didnt get downrated but I did? Whatever!!
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#100 Jan 01 2011 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
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Worst game i ever played , SE had so much fail in that one

good luck on ur next mmo FF20 or somthing , not gonna waste more time on that **** .

Happy new year Zam ppl :D
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What is Persona?


Persona 4 is THE game Mikhalia described just now.

A game like that is never going to happen with current-gen graphics or the development costs would be insane.

It's a perfect game to me and that includes the ps2 graphics. I wouldn't want it any other way.
But we need to be hush hush about that game or it won't be the hidden gem anymore. Many Atlus published games become cult classics and their price goes through the roof on e-bay. I already bought another disc of P4 if anything should happen to the other disc.

It's THAT good.

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