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#1 Dec 23 2010 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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Over the forum, I've been seeing several people using multiple different models of the term and idea of an Auction House. What is your model? When you say or think of an AH, what comes to mind?

Please, do not fill this thread with "OMG AH SUXXORS!" posts. I understand that there are people that find disgust in an AH system, but this thread is more about finding what model AH people think about when they hear the term, not if they are for or against it.

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Since apparently the poll option does not work for non-premium members, just comment below on what type of AH you think of when you hear the term.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 11:29pm by Faladis
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#2 Dec 23 2010 at 10:37 PM Rating: Decent
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A place for limited sellers to solicit unlimited buyers.

Limit how many items can be put up per players, but let people buy as often as they can pay for it. Time tables for how long you need to wait for things to sell are optional. This is the essence of an MMO economy. Every MMORPG has one. Sry, going to varrock on world 1 to spam text next to the bank doesn't cut it anymore :/
#3 Dec 23 2010 at 10:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Me and probably a majority of people here are referring to FFXI's AH. FFXI is the only other MMO I've played besides FFXIV so I'm not sure how the auction house works in other MMOs.
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#4 Dec 23 2010 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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An AH to me is a centralized place where I can buy and sell without having it being reset for more than once a week. (I am tired of summoning my retainer every time I woke up and found out it reset 10 mins after i went to bed).

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#5 Dec 23 2010 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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They all work the same. It limits how much you can put up. Most limit how long it can be for sale. All seem to have the player set a price to sell it at. XI had it not tell you what price they listed it at, but rather you entered a price and hoped it would sell for what you wanted it for.

Honestly, I liked XI's way of bidding more than having prices simply listed. You can't actively undercut everyone the same way in XI like you can in any other game.

Also, the lowest priced item always sells first in XI.

I dunno, XI's auction has was pretty effing incredible. I mean, whoever thought of it should get some sort of award for the concept and implementation.
#6 Dec 23 2010 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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A good AH: Pull up a single window, drag and drop however many items you want into it, specify a price for item per unit or per stack, and then receive money in mail or at AH counter once item sells. Searching for items can be done via drop-down tree menus or free form text search, not sensitive to capital letters. Buying items is a one to two click process, you can sort items by name, level or value, you can see exactly who is selling the item and the exact price of the item. You receive your item in your inventory immediately after purchase.
#7 Dec 23 2010 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
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the AH ala ffxi means the lowest priced items sell, therefore, things can get really cut-throat. any less no-life crafters or gatherer will have very little room to make profits.

i think an AH ala ebay style can be fine... the items on auction will end in some time, and the highest bidders wins, although the bidding takes some time to win, it may help to secure crafters or gatherers to have more profits.

there can also be "buy it now" options for some items, and that can be the retainer style listings where price is laid out clearly, and can be bought and have instantly.

maybe there can be another job, called the brokers who can function like a stock broker who can provide services to buyers for any available items... but i really didn't think through with anything, i just thought it would be nice if i can just go to one person, and s/he will be able to fill my orders.

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#8 Dec 23 2010 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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A centralized location where goods can be bought and sold.

Blind bid or visible bid/buy it now, I don't care, but preferably not timed.
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#9 Dec 23 2010 at 11:34 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't know what options you wanted, so I just put these ones down.

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FFXI AH :5 (55.6%)
Ebay AH :4 (44.4%)
New style AH :0 (%)
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#10 Dec 24 2010 at 12:34 AM Rating: Good
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manam wrote:
I didn't know what options you wanted, so I just put these ones down.

Awesome, that works rather well and seems to cover most of the opinions stated so far.
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#11 Dec 24 2010 at 2:08 AM Rating: Decent
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triangold wrote:


there can also be "buy it now" options for some items, and that can be the retainer style listings where price is laid out clearly, and can be bought and have instantly.


the ebay style ah with buy it now capability is pretty much whats in wow, and very few people list an item without a buy it now price (probably less than 1% of total listings if i had to wager a guess). the buy it now option pretty much eliminates any form of competing prices and outbidding others for an item and this system encourages hardcore undercutting and leaves little room for profit on craftable items because people can see exactly what the item costs and who has it listed for the least.

id rather have to blindly bid as low as possible like in xi and potentially spend a good ammount of time at the AH raising my offer slowly to ensure i get a good price. at least the crafters make a decent sum from the impatient people who dont like this. just remove the option to show price histories, then theres no set price trends to follow and allows a much greater variance in costs.

Edited, Dec 24th 2010 2:10am by Elamille
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#12 Dec 24 2010 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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My definition of an AH is...exactly the same system Ebay uses.

Item has a starting price and an "expiration date."
People bid on it against other people.
Once the expiration date is met, the item goes to the person who bid the highest.
There can also be a "buy now" option if the seller so chooses.

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#13 Dec 24 2010 at 5:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I would not mind an exchange based system where you are shown the lowest asking price and the highest bidding price. If you want the item ASAP, you simply bid as much as the asking price but you can try to get a lower price by submitting a lower price point buy order. The same goes for selling. When you submit a buy order, the money is immediately removed from you and stored at the exchange until the order is filled or you cancel it.
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