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#1 Dec 26 2010 at 12:39 AM Rating: Good
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Hello all,

Christmas has come and gone and now we have a nice and shiny new LCD TV that finally put us into the 21st century in style. I want to play FFXIV on it. My laptop has HDMI output and I have a nice new HDMI cable to hook it up with.

My question to the community is: What is your experience with playing FFXIV or other PC game on the big screen? Should I be worried about burn in? Mis-matched resolutions? Loss of aspect ratio? Poor picture quality?

Any suggestions and testimonies are greatly appreciated.
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#2 Dec 26 2010 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
Sup man, I play on a 46" LCD samsung. I have it hooked up to my computer through DVI PC input, I have found that the HDMI did not work as well and I had more problems with aspect ratio and resolution. I currently have this set up with a desktop PC runing a ATI radion 5870 and it works very well. No worrie of burn in so far as the TV acts as a monitor, I think you have to worrie more about burn in with plasma. I used to hook up my laptop to my T.V. with HDMI and while it worked I did not find that it worked well. I was using a HP laptop new last year. If possible I would try and hook it up with a monitor/ DVI input in my experiance it will be much more user friendly.
#3 Dec 26 2010 at 4:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was playing on a 42" 1080i LCD since beta. The only issue I had was font size. What is normally a comfortable viewing distance is somewhat difficult as 8s start to look like 6s and such. I'm back to playing on a 19" widescreen LCD and I think I prefer it, but to each their own.
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#4 Dec 27 2010 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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Apparently there's a lot of video lag involved in this. I have an Insignia HDTV and tried it out. I had to disable some feature in the advanced settings menu to relieve some of the lag, but the worst of it was the fps hit I took.

I normally get 30+ fps on my system. I don't get it. I'm running at the same resolution as my laptop monitor, same settings, disabled my laptop monitor, using a monster HDMI cable, and there's still a bad hit to my fps, down to less than 20 fps. If I bump the resolution up to the tv's native resolution it pushes my system hard, with almost literally 5 fps or less.

I've emailed nVidia asking if there's anything I can do but I have a feeling it won't do any good. I'm still in need of some advice if anyone has some knowledge on this topic. Thanks for the replies so far!
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#5 Dec 27 2010 at 12:49 AM Rating: Good
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I play on a 50 in inch LCD, HDMI connected to my ATI 5750. Pictures pretty good, though I have some horizontal lines for some reason I can't figure out, but it doesn't really bother me. My only complaint about playing like that, is that its hard to read anything.
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#6 Dec 27 2010 at 2:22 AM Rating: Good
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gaming on the big screen has never appealed to me. Everything always seems blown out of proportion. I have a 22" lcd with an hdmi input along with the vga and dvi. I tend to use it for my PS3 as well as the computer. The res just seems that much better. (plus I am ancient and grew up playing games on a Commodore 64 with a 13" 1701 monitor :) )

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#7 Dec 27 2010 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
radeon HD 5670
Plasma Panasonic Vierra 50"

picture looks amazing, i love it, and makes all my friends jealous HAHA
i tend not to play in the 1900 size mode though because the FFXIV chat log gets smaller i believe i play in 1350 or something size, and it looks fine [:
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#8 Dec 27 2010 at 3:30 AM Rating: Decent
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KujaKoF wrote:
I play on a 50 in inch LCD, HDMI connected to my ATI 5750. Pictures pretty good, though I have some horizontal lines for some reason I can't figure out, but it doesn't really bother me. My only complaint about playing like that, is that its hard to read anything.


My friends 32 inch (3 or so years old) had some weird horizontal lines when I ran by bushes in Uldah area. But my 42 inch Samsung which is a year old doesn't have this problem. I think it has something to do with the video processing of the HDTV or a type of ghosting effect.
#9 Dec 27 2010 at 6:13 AM Rating: Good
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Same here as most others, playing on a 50" and I need a pair of glasses to be able to read chats, hud's or anything else. It would be nice if you would have a option to change font & hud size.
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#10 Dec 27 2010 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
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I am playing FFXIV on a 52" LCD mounted on my wall...hooked up to surround sound ;)

I absolutely love this setup for my gaming/media PC and it is perfect for FFXIV.

For those of you that are experiencing trouble like input lag, you have the desktop set to the wrong resolution for your TV. Even if your TV has a 720p native resolution (for example), you would have to set your PC's resolution to 1368x768.

For those of you with lines or if the screen is cutoff, you will have to mess with the scaling options of your desktop either by using the Nvidia control panel or ATI's CCC.

HDMI and DVI are going to be the exact same digital signal (except HDMI will carry audio). NEVER use VGA or any analog output to an LCD TV unless that is all that is available.

If your desktop icons and text are too small, change the DPI settings for your desktop to something like 125-140% bigger. If FFXIV text seems too small, then don't run it at 1080p...use 720p fullscreen instead and everything will be much bigger while viewing from your couch.

Let me know if you need any help or have any questions about PC on a TV...I've configured a good amount of these types of setups before. Once everything is optimized, you will never want to sit at a desk for PC games ever again!...especially if you can use a controller....but, that's a whole other thread!



Edited, Dec 27th 2010 1:37pm by McDomination
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#11 Dec 27 2010 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
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NBBV8236 wrote:
Sup man, I play on a 46" LCD samsung. I have it hooked up to my computer through DVI PC input, I have found that the HDMI did not work as well and I had more problems with aspect ratio and resolution. I currently have this set up with a desktop PC runing a ATI radion 5870 and it works very well. No worrie of burn in so far as the TV acts as a monitor, I think you have to worrie more about burn in with plasma. I used to hook up my laptop to my T.V. with HDMI and while it worked I did not find that it worked well. I was using a HP laptop new last year. If possible I would try and hook it up with a monitor/ DVI input in my experiance it will be much more user friendly.


I have almost exactly the same experience. I too use a 46" Samsung as my primary monitor. I tried connecting with Mini-HDMI out of my GTX into the TV's HDMI port, and I was getting either overscan or blurriness that I couldn't resolve. Instead I go DVI out of the video card to VGA in on the TV. I run at fullscreen 1080p and it looks gorgeous.
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#12 Dec 27 2010 at 1:02 PM Rating: Default
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can't read hardly anything but there is no need for being able to adjust font size or reading in an MMO... right?
#13 Dec 27 2010 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I have an ATI Radeon HD 5750, and my experience is limited to extending the desktop to my 40" Samsung (using HDMI) so I can have internet/vent up on my monitor while playing fullscreen on the TV (which ends up being slightly less since it's windowed).

Anyway, from Monitor to TV (Windowed 1280x800 vs. Windowed 1834x1032 or something) I experience very little difference in terms of lag. In cities there is definitely a drop in FPS, although it isn't major. I haven't yet tried fullscreening on the TV, but I would like to test it and see. If the topic is still active, I'll let you know.

Edit: Too many run-ons and uses of the word but :)

Edited, Dec 27th 2010 2:18pm by Silvano13
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#14 Dec 27 2010 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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I play on a 52" Samsung Plasma. With that being said you do get burn in but it does fade away after awhile. Some plasma TV's do not but mine does. The only time you will notice the burn in of the screen if the picture is all black or white. The burnins go away pretty fast. But after playing sence beta i do not have any burnins that are permanent. I wouldn't worry at all about it.
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#15 Dec 27 2010 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I have an Asus laptop up to my Smasung LN52A850 and its pretty awesome. Havent had any issues with font size or odd scaling problems. The tv actually has a setting called "Just Scan" that you enable to make sure your desktop doesnt over extend. Wireless keyboard + Mouse is baller. Its how I do all my FPS games also since I suck at controllers and the laptop smokes a ps3/xbox360's graphics anyways.
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#16 Dec 28 2010 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Frebaut wrote:
I play on a 52" Samsung Plasma. With that being said you do get burn in but it does fade away after awhile. Some plasma TV's do not but mine does. The only time you will notice the burn in of the screen if the picture is all black or white. The burnins go away pretty fast. But after playing sence beta i do not have any burnins that are permanent. I wouldn't worry at all about it.


Playing on a 50" Samsung plasma and this is my experience as well. Any image retention is only noticable on blank screens and goes away as soon as there is a new signal to display.

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