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#1 Dec 26 2010 at 4:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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So I got myself a 3D laptop for Christmas; the ASUS G53JW-3DE to be exact. http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g53jw3de-rog-gaming-laptop-p-2897.html

I had no intentions of playing FFXIV in 3D on this box. Nvidia rates the game as “not recommended” and I figured this was because of how taxing FFXIV is on system resources in standard view, let alone doubling the requirement for 3D. AION and WOW are rated “good” and “excellent” respectively so I planned on playing those in 3D, and because of the low resolution on 3D screens, I figured I’d have no problem with FFXIV in standard view.

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Turns out NVIDIA does not know what they are talking about, or one of the recent updates really helped for stereoscopic 3D.
FFXIV PLAYS GREAT IN 3D!
If AION is rated “Good” and WOW is “Excellent” FFXIV is somewhere in between.
With the GTX 460M and Intel i7 Q740 (1.73~2.93Ghz) I rarely drop below 40 FPS running around. I just did a 15 man Behest and experienced no problems with steady 40+ FPS.
Depending on the people around, Atherite locations drop 28~35 FPS at times. I’d be lying if I said running around town is “flawless.” Completely playable but there can be some noticeable lag. I haven’t personally found the need to disable 3D in town, but others may. I saw frame drop as low as 20FPS at times in town.

Many reviews of FFXIV complement how beautiful looking FFXIV is. I cannot begin to describe how well this enhances the stereoscopic 3D experience. It’s like the devs were planning this from the start! WOW and AION look fine in 3D, but when compared to FFXIV, WOW is REALLY showing its age and its clear AION was not originally designed for 3D.
#2 Dec 26 2010 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard nvidia's 3d is pretty crappy as a general experience though, is this untrue?
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#3 Dec 26 2010 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
While it is listed as not recommended by Nvidia, the game does play well. The fact that it's 'not recommended' probably stems from things being 'off' during 3d, menu elements and such. First thing I noticed that was off was the minimap and the other icons that are in the top right corner. Sucks that I can't really play it in 3d at my resolution, 6040x1080 is not friendly with a pair of 580s and near maxed settings.
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#4 Dec 26 2010 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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I can't wait for ps3 ;x. 65 inch 3d ffxiv :]
#5 Dec 26 2010 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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I can't wait for ps3 ;x. 65 inch 3d ffxiv :]


Not to burst your bubble, but wasn't there mention of SE planning to drop their plans for 3d on the ps3 or was that taken back?
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#6 Dec 27 2010 at 12:44 AM Rating: Good
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3d ps3 is done already from what i heard. They were showing it off at launch.
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For those of you trying 3D mode, does your GPU usage shoot up significantly as well, or does it stay the same (only difference is fps drop)?

Before the Nov update, my GPU usage was about 50% overall I'd say, just by eyeballing the usage % in different areas.

After the Nov update, it is almost always above 80% on the fields (especially around outside the LL area). Often times it's pegged at 99% when my screen is turned at an angle so it shows the landscape off in the distance.

I have no idea why after the Nov update the game suddenly uses almost twice my GPU usage. My settings remain the same at "a notch below max" with DoF and AO turned off and 2X AA. My res is 1280x800 windowed mode. I'm running a Phenom 955 and a GTX 460.

Anyone else had issues with GPU usage increasing a LOT after the Nov update?

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Azurymber wrote:
3d ps3 is done already from what i heard. They were showing it off at launch.


They only demonstrated it on the E3 2010 just for the "A-ha" effect, they didn't intend to really release it with stereoscope 3D on PS3 and they said they don't plan to do that.
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I'm so envious of you people with 3D screens... :(
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#10 Dec 27 2010 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm no expect but I know what FFXIV needs to run at a decent rate. The PS 3 alreay falls far short of that, so the idea of the PS 3 being able to run FFXIV in 3D sounds impossible. I could easily be wrong but I can't see how FFXIV on PS 3 will be anything other than a simplified version with a lower frame-rate than the PC version without the added work of rendering in 3D.


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Threx wrote:
For those of you trying 3D mode, does your GPU usage shoot up significantly as well, or does it stay the same (only difference is fps drop)?

Before the Nov update, my GPU usage was about 50% overall I'd say, just by eyeballing the usage % in different areas.

After the Nov update, it is almost always above 80% on the fields (especially around outside the LL area). Often times it's pegged at 99% when my screen is turned at an angle so it shows the landscape off in the distance.

I have no idea why after the Nov update the game suddenly uses almost twice my GPU usage. My settings remain the same at "a notch below max" with DoF and AO turned off and 2X AA. My res is 1280x800 windowed mode. I'm running a Phenom 955 and a GTX 460.

Anyone else had issues with GPU usage increasing a LOT after the Nov update?


So I took an alt to Camp Bentbranch, fired up GPU-z and FRAPS to ran the following tests.

With 3D disabled I was getting around 50 FPS. I left it this way for over a minute.
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I then swapped to stereoscopic 3D and as expected, my frame rate dropped to around 30 FPS. I left it here for exactly one minute.
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As you can see from this GPU-z screenshot, the GPU load % didn’t change much, but I’m almost at max to begin with.
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#12 Dec 27 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah it looks like youre GPU usage is also at 95%+, with or without 3D.

Was it this high before the Nov patch, do you remember?
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#13 Dec 28 2010 at 3:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I might look into this.
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