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#1 Dec 28 2010 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
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I tried posting this is the trouble shooting section but I got no help, so I figured id try here. I am not willing to wait for ps3 version any more, and I need a point int the right direction. Now I'm not tech savy and I know building a pc is "EASY".... but not for everyone and I don't want to shell out the money, build it wrong and or break it, etc etc. I have about 1k maybe a little more to spend on a new pc. I'm not overly concerned with max settings as I am full playablilty. I have learned by research and reading reviews that price doesn't mean its a good pc. Can anyone help me get a nice pc? Well semi nice because of my budget... I don't want to wait any longer to finally make and level my lalafell, I'm going nuts watching youtube vids and reading forums, please help me.
#2 Dec 28 2010 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Not to sound overly critical or anything, but did you happen to check the stickied thread "Computer Building Guide" at the top of the forum? It's as good a place to start as any.
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#3 Dec 28 2010 at 6:58 PM Rating: Good
get parts for pc @ newegg built mine for $1300 with blu ray and ssd so you should be able to get good one for 1k'ish.
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#4 Dec 28 2010 at 7:01 PM Rating: Good
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i wa sin the same situation a few weeks ago. i did a lot of research and found a company called ibuypower. i got a pc that runs ffxiv just great on standard specs i even have a few set higher and it only cost me $760. that was just the pc no monitor but it came with a nice phenom II x4 3.4 ghz cpu 4gb ram and an ATI radeon hd 5670 video card. thats abou6t all i know whne it comes ot pc's but from talking to other gamers on team speak it seem si only paid about 100-150 mor ethan if i would have build one and it came with windows. hope this helps also look at cyperpower they are about the same as ibuypower i think. also a lot of the reviews are bad but the way i look at it is if something works good most peopel will nto go make a review but if its bad then they go of fon the reviews.
#5 Dec 28 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, I suggest you stay away from machines made by ibuypower. They will be WAY over priced. You can easily get a computer with the same specs with a different "brand" name and it'll be several hundred dollars cheaper. Below is what I had purchased for my new computer. With those parts, the game runs beautifully on 1080p with maxed settings with only a couple of extra stuff turned off. If it's marked "FREE", I took it out of my old pc and put it into my new one. Use this only as a guide. The specials most definitely have either changed or are no longer available. Prices are probably a little cheaper. The computer building thread can help more with what you should change or not change depending on your budget. I expect this pc to last for atleast 4 years before I have difficulty running new release games.

Full Tower 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004
Motherboard 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
CPU 741.00* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
Heatsink included with cpu
Video Card ******* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
RAM 173.00$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432145
Power Supply $$$$$$$
HDD FREE
Network Card FREE
DVD-ROM FREE

total = $1,114
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#6 Dec 28 2010 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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swisa wrote:
Honestly, I suggest you stay away from machines made by ibuypower. They will be WAY over priced. You can easily get a computer with the same specs with a different "brand" name and it'll be several hundred dollars cheaper. Below is what I had purchased for my new computer. With those parts, the game runs beautifully on 1080p with maxed settings with only a couple of extra stuff turned off. If it's marked "FREE", I took it out of my old pc and put it into my new one. Use this only as a guide. The specials most definitely have either changed or are no longer available. Prices are probably a little cheaper. The computer building thread can help more with what you should change or not change depending on your budget. I expect this pc to last for atleast 4 years before I have difficulty running new release games.

Full Tower 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517004
Motherboard 100.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
CPU 741.00* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
Heatsink included with cpu
Video Card ******* http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442850
RAM 173.00$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.432145
Power Supply $$$$$$$
HDD FREE
Network Card FREE
DVD-ROM FREE

total = $1,114




i completely agree with you at it will cost a little more but i think he is about like me and has very little knowledge about building a pc. buying form a company like ibuypower it comes rdy to plug and play. and also you just added up to 1100+ and did not include some stuff or even an OS that is another 100. mine runs ffxiv with no lag at all on all standard settings with out turning any of the in game settings off and that is just fine for most people. and at 760 for everyhitng you need i dont think you can beat that unless you do some seriuos shopping around and know what you are looking for.
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most PCs with a dual core 2.7+ will run the game at standard settings with a good GPU and a little tweaking to the game settings
qaud core would be better, but anyways

if you just want something to play the game you can get any of the newer big box towers and be good to go

my current PC is a HP with a 2.7ghz dual core 6gb ram and a ATI 5770 (that i added)
i bought it to play the game till i could build something bigger as it was affordable at the time it was like $600 with out the GPU which was under $200

and the game runs smooth on standard 720p settings with a few things turned off it got a benchmark score of like 1900
is it the best PC, no but it does the job and has done the job since open beta

even my 2.0ghz 2gb ram that this replaced would run the game with some choppyness but that had a 4650 GPU

if your not sure about building one, then try to find the best thing you can afford
post the stats on here if you need advice about it
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#8 Dec 28 2010 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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if you catch one of the sales on ibuypower it can be about the same as what you can get the parts from newegg for and thay bild it and provide teck suport for it that way
edit: however thay are a lil slow expect about a month to see the pc

Edited, Dec 28th 2010 11:27pm by delioo
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#9 Dec 28 2010 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
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Do NOT buy from Ibuypower.

There is a reason they come assembled for about or less then the costs on newegg. Its because of a bad and well known rep for selling bad, wrong, or poorly assembled pcs.
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#10 Dec 28 2010 at 10:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Honestly its not as bad as it seemed when the game was coming out. Look for the min specs that the game recommends, and you will be able to play it. Upgrade VC and processor as much as fits your budget. I built a machine for $500, on default settings I play completely fine, and I have one graphical problem (something with lighting and shading doesn't work well, I've never cared enough to look into it.
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#11 Dec 28 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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i got a pc for 250 that runs ffxiv decadently. private message me what you decide on and i'll be more than happy to check it and make sure the setup is good.
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#12 Dec 29 2010 at 8:20 AM Rating: Default
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AceAmallie wrote:
Do NOT buy from Ibuypower.

There is a reason they come assembled for about or less then the costs on newegg. Its because of a bad and well known rep for selling bad, wrong, or poorly assembled pcs.



did you buy from ibuypower and get ripped off or are you just saying this because you paid to much for your pc? i bought an ibuypower and it came in great shape even the wiring was done nicely. i dont understand why they have such a bad rep prolly from people that just say stuff since they paid to much for thier pc's. anyway im not gona keep posting here cause i dont feel like talking about this anymore.. next time i just wont try to help someone find a decent pc at a decent price i guess.
#13 Dec 29 2010 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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I would hold off on buying a computer right now. I think Sandybridge gets released around the 5th of next month so think around the 15th for it to start showing in pricing.

#14 Dec 29 2010 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone. I do understand building one is cheaper/better, but I don't trust myself enough to buy the parts to "maybe" have a working pc. With that being said I have been reading the build-a-pc forum and a lot of things say, "buy a pre built with good prossesor and just update a better graphics card. Is this overly difficult? Or is it just take old one out and put new one in same way and done? Do I have to install things like hardware screws etc etc. I just don't want to break something I can't afford but am cause I want it. Again thanks again and when I get on ffxiv ill be looking for a good/fun ls and might name /sea and say hi and maybe go on adventures, oh and off topic, clan doesn't mean anything but start stats right? Can't decide on plains/dunesfolk....
#15 Dec 29 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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And what is sandybridge??

Edited, Dec 29th 2010 3:11pm by abazaba72385
#16 Dec 29 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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abazaba72385 wrote:
I have been reading the build-a-pc forum and a lot of things say, "buy a pre built with good prossesor and just update a better graphics card. Is this overly difficult? Or is it just take old one out and put new one in same way and done?

It's almost that easy

1. uninstall old video card drivers
2. power off PC and unplug power supply
3. open case
4. remove video card retention *****
5. remove and replace video card
6. replace the retention *****
7. plug in power supply, power on PC to make sure everything works
8. close the case
9. install new drivers

One thing to note is that it's entirely possible that you might have to also replace the power supply along with adding high end video card if you are replacing a low end video card.

Edited, Dec 29th 2010 3:18pm by Jefro420
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#17 Dec 29 2010 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so far I've been looking at the following:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6701483&CatId=4317
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6325074&CatId=4317
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147369
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113150

And there are some other with similiar stats. If any of you would buy these solely for the purpose of ffxiv, what would you change that would be easy, I emphisize on easy, for non pc literate to install?
#18 Dec 29 2010 at 3:09 PM Rating: Good
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Sandybridge is Intel new processor line. Bulldozer is AMD's next processor line.

After it is release you should see people trying to clear out stocks of older processors.

For the bored
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row/1

The article is an old review of a prerelease chip.
#19 Dec 29 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Good
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abazaba72385 wrote:

And there are some other with similiar stats. If any of you would buy these solely for the purpose of ffxiv, what would you change that would be easy, I emphisize on easy, for non pc literate to install?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6701483&CatId=4317

this one is probably good to go out of the box



may be ok, but I'd really replace the video card with an ATI 5770 or nvidea GTS 450 or higher



definately replace the video card in this one, it doesn't come close to meeting the minimum specs. I can't tell from newegg's desription but you may need to replace the power supply in this one too.



may be ok, but I'd really replace the video card with an ATI 5770 or nvidea GTS 450 or higher


(Anyone feel free to correct my recommendation for an ATI card, I don't like ATI and haven't been paying attention to which of their chips work best.)

Edited, Dec 29th 2010 4:15pm by Jefro420
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