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#1 Jan 01 2011 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
Do you use the Menders Ward as a means of making money?
Yes :29 (22.5%)
No :49 (38.0%)
Haven't thought to try :24 (18.6%)
I try, but never find things I'm able to repair :27 (20.9%)
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#2 Jan 01 2011 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, I personaly visit it when I am in a generous mood

and I do say generous because alot of the stuff I find in it is people who are offering 1 gil for repairs, 1 shard for repairs(not kidding) or various other huge insults for the cost of the materials.

I will say though, I do also see ALOT of people not needing repairs in there among these insult offers, so I am guessing those are the ones who have actualy put up decent prices and gotten repairs already for them.
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#3 Jan 01 2011 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
I check it every day I log on, but I rarely find anything I can repair for someone. But I try to repair whatever I can unless they offer like 1gil. I like doing it so they can come back and find their gear all shiny and new againSmiley: smile
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#4 Jan 01 2011 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
I do all the time, but I rarely find anyone in need of my skills that's offering a reasonable fare. And it sucks because I want to help because I know it's those same people stinking up the forum communities about "woe is me, repair system is broken"... but I refuse to support bad buisiness
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#5 Jan 01 2011 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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I visited a few times, only items I saw up for repairs were like r40+ gear for 1000gil each which I didn't have high enough skill to nor would I repair at that insulting price. Haven't been back since.
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#6 Jan 01 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't vote, because I don't really craft or repair things, but I thought I'd add that my stuff gets repaired in the menders ward usually in about an hour. I don't have tons of high level stuff, But I've had more than a few level 35ish items repaired for 3-5k in no time.
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1 gil? Really?

People need to smarten up.
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#8 Jan 01 2011 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Even 3-5k is an insult when you can easily get 30k from a single leve, and you have millions inside of your pocket.
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Didn't know there was one. Shame only one guy sells horn glue I might've tried it.
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#10 Jan 01 2011 at 3:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Meowshi wrote:
Even 3-5k is an insult when you can easily get 30k from a single leve, and you have millions inside of your pocket.


If you don't think its fair thats fine, but plenty of others do or my stuff wouldn't be getting repaired. Personally I think you are looking at it the wrong way. Repairs are a market transaction just like any other item, and they are done at the market price, not what the individuals want them to cost.

another way to look at it is simply opportunity. if my 5k is worth more than their 5 seconds and velveteen fent, the person doing the repair wins.
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#11 Jan 01 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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I put no because I don't have any crafting classes that can repair armor or weapons. I didn't really know that people used this to repair items. I don't know why it never crossed my mind. I might start using it and see if people repair my items but I won't be a 1 gil cheap person.
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#12 Jan 01 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I had to vote "no". I checked out the Mender's Ward in each city a few times, saw that most of them have things up for 1 gil and left. A few of them had things up for around 1k, but that's hardly worth my time. That may sound selfish, but when I want repairs done I put things up for decent prices. For low rank stuff, like my brass dagger, I put it up for 5-6k. For my Spiked Knuckles, around 10-12k. I up the offer depending on the rank of the item, and the materials used to fix it. They get fixed very, very quickly. If people were willing to make it worth our time to come and fix it, I guarantee you we would be very happy to repair your stuff.
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#13 Jan 01 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Meowshi wrote:
Even 3-5k is an insult when you can easily get 30k from a single leve, and you have millions inside of your pocket.


I agree, the poor newbie who just finished a round of leves and mob grinding with a broken weapon and barely 30k to his name is insulting crafters by not offering all of his gil.

I don't offer gil, I offer 10-20 wind shards and I get everything repaired just fine Smiley: grin I do check the wards a lot because I know jewelry needs repairing a lot because of NPC exclusion.
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
Meowshi wrote:
Even 3-5k is an insult when you can easily get 30k from a single leve, and you have millions inside of your pocket.


I agree, the poor newbie who just finished a round of leves and mob grinding with a broken weapon and barely 30k to his name is insulting crafters by not offering all of his gil.


That noobie would have R1-R10 gear... and if I see that up for cheap, I don't mind repairing it... but player repairs are not really worth it until you start getting past R10 gear.

If the pore noobie is wearing a hauby... no I don't feel bad refusing to repair it for 1 gil.
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#15 Jan 01 2011 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Lantesh wrote:
I had to vote "no". I checked out the Mender's Ward in each city a few times, saw that most of them have things up for 1 gil and left. A few of them had things up for around 1k, but that's hardly worth my time. That may sound selfish, but when I want repairs done I put things up for decent prices. For low rank stuff, like my brass dagger, I put it up for 5-6k. For my Spiked Knuckles, around 10-12k. I up the offer depending on the rank of the item, and the materials used to fix it. They get fixed very, very quickly. If people were willing to make it worth our time to come and fix it, I guarantee you we would be very happy to repair your stuff.


Yeah, come to an informed decision by putting up a percentage amount of the price the weapon originally cost.

People are wondering why they have so much cash and nothing to spend it on, hello?
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Mistress Theonehio wrote:
Meowshi wrote:
Even 3-5k is an insult when you can easily get 30k from a single leve, and you have millions inside of your pocket.


I agree, the poor newbie who just finished a round of leves and mob grinding with a broken weapon and barely 30k to his name is insulting crafters by not offering all of his gil.


Not when that poor newbie is wearing full Iron Cuirass set, Decorated Iron Scutum and Long Sword, but put up his crap for repair for 1k. I call bull.
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#17 Jan 01 2011 at 5:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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FYI:

I do the 1 gil thing, not as an insult, but because it is so my brother, who has the half of the crafting classes that I do not, can come by and repair my gear for me. I about crapped when someone came in (not him) and repaired it all for 1 gil each lol.

Seriously, I wish there was a Linkshell-only type of deal if everyone is getting so offended.
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#18 Jan 01 2011 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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I put no because I don't have any crafting classes that can repair armor or weapons. I didn't really know that people used this to repair items. I don't know why it never crossed my mind. I might start using it and see if people repair my items but I won't be a 1 gil cheap person.


You can repair some weapons with your Alchemist
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#19 Jan 01 2011 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't check the wards nor would I, If you want to repair stuff for a good price, or you want your stuff repaired fast, afk @ the repair NPC in either LL or Ul with the gear you want fixed and within 10 min it'll be repaired. I do it all the time and it works all the time, I'm a nice guy though and I usually offer a good amount of gil, or if i have the repair item I'll offer that.

If you want to make gil repairing figure out where all the ppl needing **** repaired are, it's not in the wards..
#20 Jan 01 2011 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a nice guy though and I usually offer a good amount of gil, or if i have the repair item I'll offer that.


Two things,

1. Being a nice guy has nothing to do with the amount you offer, if you want your crap repaired in a decent time frame you offer a decent amount of gil. If your item costs 50k to repair to 75% why not offer 10-15 for 100% repair.

2. Offering the repair mat as a reward doesn't do any good. If you have the mat as a reward, but I don't walk around with it in my inventory all the time... it doesn't help that the item is in your bazaar as a reward when I don't have it. Offer gil or like I do sell the mat at an inflated price and include that price in your reward.
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#21 Jan 01 2011 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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I put my things up for about an average of 5-15k each. I do it on a three point scale to determine this.

1) How high must the player be to fix my item? (Compensation for time spent ranking the class)

2) How expensive is the repair item? (Compensation for cost of the material)

3) Do I want it repaired in ten minutes or overnight in the Mender's Ward?

So for my Dodoskin Jerkin, I'll put up 7k. Voyager belt is 10k. Sphene ring, 8k. And then just add 5k if I want it repaired right away. Sometimes I'll offer a good item like gold sand, mythril ore, or a stack of iron/limonite; but that's very rare.
#22 Jan 01 2011 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
MrStyles wrote:
I put no because I don't have any crafting classes that can repair armor or weapons. I didn't really know that people used this to repair items. I don't know why it never crossed my mind. I might start using it and see if people repair my items but I won't be a 1 gil cheap person.


You can repair some weapons with your Alchemist



Really? I never knew that! Any in particular you remember so I can keep my eyes open for those items to repair for people? Thanks for letting me know too!
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#23 Jan 01 2011 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
sell the mat at an inflated price and include that price in your reward.

What's stopping me from making a quick buck off your repair reward and not buy your mat? :D
#24 Jan 01 2011 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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I carry around alot of repair mats and the mender's ward is great. Except for some strange reason... the repair jobs there are so cheapskate -.-;
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I'd like to think that people realize that a buffalo leather spetch costs 4-5k by itself. Same with horn glue (and most of the glues).

Seriously, these repair items probably cost far more than the measly 1k being offered for them. Check yellow gremlin for an idea of what the repair material itself costs before listing it.
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MrStyles wrote:
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
MrStyles wrote:
I put no because I don't have any crafting classes that can repair armor or weapons. I didn't really know that people used this to repair items. I don't know why it never crossed my mind. I might start using it and see if people repair my items but I won't be a 1 gil cheap person.


You can repair some weapons with your Alchemist



Really? I never knew that! Any in particular you remember so I can keep my eyes open for those items to repair for people? Thanks for letting me know too!


Weapons like Silencing Dagger and Paralyzing Dagger use the appropriate potion to repair from an alchemist.

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I'd like to think that people realize that a buffalo leather spetch costs 4-5k by itself. Same with horn glue (and most of the glues).

Seriously, these repair items probably cost far more than the measly 1k being offered for them. Check yellow gremlin for an idea of what the repair material itself costs before listing it.


If you only buy the spetch, then yes they are expensive. However, the cost of leather has been going down, and if you buy a leather and make the spetch off of it, suddenly cost goes waaaay down in comparison. If everyone is selling spetch (or spetch cost x 5 for leather) for more than what the Leatherworker guild sells them for, then just buy from the leatherworker guild. No one seems to remember that the guilds are selling most of the repair mats too.

It's the more exotic repair materials like the glues that are more problematic.

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If you only buy the spetch, then yes they are expensive. However, the cost of leather has been going down, and if you buy a leather and make the spetch off of it, suddenly cost goes waaaay down in comparison. If everyone is selling spetch (or spetch cost x 5 for leather) for more than what the Leatherworker guild sells them for, then just buy from the leatherworker guild. No one seems to remember that the guilds are selling most of the repair mats too.

It's the more exotic repair materials like the glues that are more problematic.



True, and while I don't buy them, the trip to Gridania to see the one NPC who does sell them often isn't worth it.

I still see plenty of people trying to get an item repaired with horn glue for 1k or so, even though the cheapest I can find it on my server right now is 10k (http://ffxiv.yg.com/item/horn-glue?id=10009315#s).

Yeah, people need to have a better grasp of what the repair items cost before listing it. I'd actually prefer that they list the repair item as a reward. That way, I'm guaranteed to get the item back (so long as I don't botch the repair, but that's always a risk anyway).
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#28 Jan 02 2011 at 7:04 AM Rating: Good
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I do, but rarely see anything I can repair.. Which is any and all cloth items. Half of it is other people beating me to it, and the other half is not a lot of people using that ward to seek repairs. Sometimes I do craft sessions in there, and I rarely see any traffic.
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#29 Jan 02 2011 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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I will be honest Yes i do check it when i am on. Do i care what price they put up? Not really. I farm all of my Crafting stuff so i make my own repair mats and it costs me nothing to make them. That 1gil-1k everyone is saying is a rip off for the repair,isn't for me. Not saying that everyone does things the same way i do though. If i had paid for all of my mats i would, more then likely, feel the same way.
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I didn't know people actually bought the repair items (most of them anyway). Usually if your class is able to repair the item, they should be able to make the repair item themselves. There are some that can't (branches of all types). I usually change the price of the repair item depending on level. 1-20 = 2k, 21-30 = 5k, 31-40 = 10k, 41-50 = 15-20k. Personally I don't check the repair NPC but I should so I know what to offer in repairs. While it may not seem much to offer to some people, some items degrade extremely fast making constant repairs a money dump. And by some items, I mean the weapons that need repairs after 1-2hrs of use.

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I do all my crafting in the menders ward, so I repair items that I can. If I don't have the materials, it becomes a small quest to get them together. I dont care to much about the $, unless it requires rare materials.

TO ANYONE REQUESTING REPAIRS: PLEASE! (If possible) include the materials to repair in your bazaar. You will find your items fixed much faster.
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#32 Jan 02 2011 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Because I'm not a crafter, I don't know the answer to this: Is it possible for the person requesting the repair to offer the materials for the repair as part of the repair payment to the repairer, or is the repairer expected to furnish the repair materials for all repairs and they are only paid in gil offered?

EDIT: Obviously they could offer the repair payment and also sell the item in their bazaar, but is it possible for the person needing repairs to offer the item needed as part of the repair? If not, it should be.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2011 1:25pm by Mikhalia
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Let's say you wanted an Iron Spear repaired. You could offer an elm branch as the payment but the repairer would still need his own elm branch to repair your spear. In that scenario, the repairer keeps his item since he'd use one to fix your weapon but gain it right back as the payment. He'd receive no gil and you'd have a 100% weapon. Granted, repairers can already get lucky and keep their repair item during the repair.

They should adjust the repair system a bit to allow you to place the repair item along with the item needing repairs that way you don't waste a slot in your bazaar and risk someone coming along and buying the mat.
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Let's say you wanted an Iron Spear repaired. You could offer an elm branch as the payment but the repairer would still need his own elm branch to repair your spear. In that scenario, the repairer keeps his item since he'd use one to fix your weapon but gain it right back as the payment. He'd receive no gil and you'd have a 100% weapon. Granted, repairers can already get lucky and keep their repair item during the repair.

They should adjust the repair system a bit to allow you to place the repair item along with the item needing repairs that way you don't waste a slot in your bazaar and risk someone coming along and buying the mat.


Yeah, that's what would concern me; what if someone doing repairs for someone else buys my repair item, but doesn't do my repair, then someone else comes along and wants to repair my item but doesn't have the material needed?

Or instead of offering 15k for the repair, I offer 115k for the repair and sell the material for 100k so that no one else would buy it?
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
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Let's say you wanted an Iron Spear repaired. You could offer an elm branch as the payment but the repairer would still need his own elm branch to repair your spear. In that scenario, the repairer keeps his item since he'd use one to fix your weapon but gain it right back as the payment. He'd receive no gil and you'd have a 100% weapon. Granted, repairers can already get lucky and keep their repair item during the repair.

They should adjust the repair system a bit to allow you to place the repair item along with the item needing repairs that way you don't waste a slot in your bazaar and risk someone coming along and buying the mat.


Yeah, that's what would concern me; what if someone doing repairs for someone else buys my repair item, but doesn't do my repair, then someone else comes along and wants to repair my item but doesn't have the material needed?

Or instead of offering 15k for the repair, I offer 115k for the repair and sell the material for 100k so that no one else would buy it?


the problem is that if someone comes up and uses their own mat, you just paid them 115000 to repair something using their own 2000 mat.


However I like that idea you kinda touched on, there should be a "use my materials" option.

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KujaKoF wrote:
Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Hyena wrote:
Let's say you wanted an Iron Spear repaired. You could offer an elm branch as the payment but the repairer would still need his own elm branch to repair your spear. In that scenario, the repairer keeps his item since he'd use one to fix your weapon but gain it right back as the payment. He'd receive no gil and you'd have a 100% weapon. Granted, repairers can already get lucky and keep their repair item during the repair.

They should adjust the repair system a bit to allow you to place the repair item along with the item needing repairs that way you don't waste a slot in your bazaar and risk someone coming along and buying the mat.


Yeah, that's what would concern me; what if someone doing repairs for someone else buys my repair item, but doesn't do my repair, then someone else comes along and wants to repair my item but doesn't have the material needed?

Or instead of offering 15k for the repair, I offer 115k for the repair and sell the material for 100k so that no one else would buy it?


the problem is that if someone comes up and uses their own mat, you just paid them 115000 to repair something using their own 2000 mat.


However I like that idea you kinda touched on, there should be a "use my materials" option.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2011 1:47pm by KujaKoF


Oh ****, I didn't even think of that. Well... scratch that whole idea.
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I check it out when I have time, but usually I prefer to sleep in the Tanner's ward next to my retainer. His name is Tager and my character is Noel =p
#38 Jan 02 2011 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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sell the mat at an inflated price and include that price in your reward.

What's stopping me from making a quick buck off your repair reward and not buy your mat? :D


I only do it on items where the repair material isn't common. For instance Hornglues were quite rare, lately they've been in abundance. So I was doing the above method, but I no longer need to because of supplies being available (well that and I can fix most of my Hornglue items myself now)
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#39 Jan 02 2011 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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I'm going to the menders wards simply for the reason that I usually have repair materials for any stuff I can repair on me at all times and second, because people on the menders ward seem to give really nice rewards for repairs(like shards or high amount of Gil)

It doesn't take much time and the outcome makes up for it, so I'm happily checking the menders ward in each city everytime I get there.
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Every time I've gone in there, there's exactly one retainer (the same one) selling stuff. If you want to repair things, you have to go to areas were people congregate and don't offer 1gil to repair a level 30 item while selling items of the same level for 50k apiece.
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