If Sephiroth needed two games and a movie to flesh out to the point that Kefka was already fleshed out in FF6 alone, then doesn't that say something about character development right there?
I see this fallacy a lot. These sequels/prequels were not NEEDED to flesh out anything in FF7. Players wanted them, so SE made them. Players desperately wanted a sequel to FF6, too (remember the hype following that tech demo for the N64?). Players generally want sequels to games they love. It has nothing to do with need. Why SE chose to do so many for 7, but not 6? I don't know, probably due to popularity (and money).
I see now that this was already addressed by others, but I already wrote it :x
When I said "needed" I didn't mean "needed" in the sense that "the world would have exploded had it not happened", I meant it in the sense of "this is what they ended up doing", as in "I needed to go to the store to get milk". I didn't -NEED- milk, but I wanted milk and so I went to the store and got it.
Perhaps I'm confusing the situation further. I knew what I meant but perhaps had a poor choice of verbage on my end. Since multiple people misunderstood me, I should have been more clear in the first place.
FF7 as a standalone game did not fully flesh out the characters, hence the need for Crisis Core and Advent Children to try to fill in the massive character gaps and plotholes that the game left. Without regard to the overall story across multiple projects, when you compare FF7 to other RPGs on a basis of "how in-depth were the characters?", it leaves it a bit lacking.
At the very least, it did just as good a job of it that the games before its time had.
Eh... Okay, yeah, I'll give you that. I concede one could just as easily pick apart character flaws in any game or movie if one really wanted to. It's not like the characters lacked any sense of emotion or motive, but they weren't exactly the perfect flawless models of character development and backstory that some particularly rabid fans tend to imply they are.
I'm not lumping you in on that; you seem to be the biggest FF7 fan in most threads that mention FF7 and I knew I would end up talking with you at some point. Fortunately, you're the type to make reasonable points and not get all crazy. :)
Pick any game in the FF series and tack on a second game and a movie and of course the characters will have more elaborate backstories.
That's true, but they didn't. And that's why FF7 has a more fleshed out world and characters than others. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, but that is the reason why I think it would be a better remake than others.
Granted much of FF7's appeal was a contextual, temporary appeal that came with a technological revolution (sprites to 3D), most games of the past are really only great masterpieces with respect to the time of their release. FF7's graphics were unfortunately not as timeless as some earlier games, either. All that aside, I really think that FF7 is just as good a game as FF6.
I could argue that FF7 was the greatest game/RPG ever. I won't, because I don't think it is, but I think it's close enough that I could do so in good conscious. Even immediately after playing it, both my brother and I struggled for a long time to decide whether we liked 6 or 7 better.
For one, it's pretty obvious that FF7 is the most popular FF title. Second place is probably 10. So from a money making standpoint, FF7 sequels and movies are going to make more money than remakes or sequels of other titles. Perfect example: Why do you think that Crisis Core got released as a proper game for a regular console and FF4 After Years was on WiiWare? Because Square is well aware that FF7 will sell like hot cakes. Kinda goes back to my usual WoW argument that this doesn't prove or disprove that the game is good or bad, all it proves is that the game is extremely popular.
6 and 7 are different games, mostly due to the generational gap between their graphics. They both had good stories in their own right. I don't mind accepting the opinion that FF7 was a good game when it's coming from someone for whom 7 was not their first, because then they're not blinded by nostalgia, nor are they biased against the precursors because of the graphics.
Don't get me wrong, if someone played FFX and said that was their favorite without giving any PS1 or earlier titles a try, I'd have to shrug off their opinion as well. But this all goes back to the fact that I think people overrate graphics when it comes to a game's quality of late and I'm getting sick of the newer generations of gamers who are unwilling to give older games a fair shake.
On an unrelated note, I asked my fiancee what her first FF was and what her favorites were. She said her first was 8 and that her favorites were 4, 8, 10, and 12 in that order. She said she got bored of 7 around the beginning of disk 2
Actually, now I feel like I should make her play 7 because it isn't that bad of a game. But I digress; I wasn't really trying to make any point or prove anything with that bit.