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#1 Jan 09 2011 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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The newest beta drivers for Nvidia 4XX series (possibly others but these for sure) change FFXIVs status from "Not recommended" and citing errors to "3D-Vision Ready" and it now works in this game.

Now just FYI, 3D Vision has always worked on 14 but for some reason only with 3DTV Play from nvidia.
This is now fixed with the new drivers so please check it out!
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#2 Jan 09 2011 at 8:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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#4 Jan 09 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Well 3D Vision on PC is growing pretty fast, and FFXI was heavily discussed because they showed a trailer in 3D, yet for some reason the game did not allow it.

It's not necessarily major news, but the fact that its officially supported now is kinda cool.

Quick google search will show you the demand for it to be working ;)

It's probably supported now because of combined efforts of Square and Nvidia, because SE did mention that 14 will support 3d on both PC and PS3, and this technology needs to work on PC before they can expect it working on PS3.
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#5 Jan 10 2011 at 1:48 AM Rating: Decent
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This is indeed somewhat good news to me. I was planning from the beginning to play this game in 3D, but I wasn't sure yet how well this game would end up supporting 3D and whether I would be playing for a very long time (due to the horrible launch).

I'm going to wait and see for another half a year or so how much this game improves and if it looks like I'll be in for the long haul.

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#6 Jan 10 2011 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050192/nvidia-picks-wrong-3d-glasses-technology

have things changed?

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 7:04am by MajidahSihaam
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#7wrongfeifong, Posted: Jan 10 2011 at 6:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ATI with eyefinity + 3D rocks your nvidia.
#8 Jan 10 2011 at 8:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Um no considering that Nvidia uses the same 3d technology found in your TVs ... they picked the right one.
The same kind that comes with your Sony Bravia or your Mitsubishi.

If they picked passive lenses or whatever you'd need all new ****.

However with Nvidia 3D Vision (Specifically it's 3DTV Play in the scenario I'm mentioning) you can use the glasses that came with your TV, and all you have to do is hook up an HDMI cord to your computer. As soon as a 3D TV is detected you get a pop up asking you if you want to purchase their 3D software (however if you already bought the adapter it will not ask you).

Try playing Left 4 Dead 2 in 3D :)

Anyways the point of this thread was to say "Hey look FFXIV got a new feature, and it works incredibly well and looks amazing" and the replies were like "So what if the game got something that works 100% as intended and looks amazing, /troll we hate nvidia" just no pleasing this community sometimes lol.
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#9 Jan 10 2011 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
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The real question is, do they sell 3D lenses with a lense prescription? 3D looks less 3D for me when I don't have my glasses on :(

Although thats in the cinema. Maybe it'll be okay in my pc since its closer. Hm...
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#10 Jan 10 2011 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Eadieni wrote:
Now just FYI, 3D Vision has always worked on 14 but for some reason only with 3DTV Play from nvidia.
This is now fixed with the new drivers so please check it out!

Sorry but thats not true.

I posted my Nvidia 3D vision results here the other week, using 260.99 on a 15" ASUS laptop.
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=129340331088782428&page=1

Even though Nvidia CP had FFXIV listed as "not recommended" the game plays great in 3D aside from many CS.
I'll have to load these beta drivers up to see if they fixed the CS animations.

I also have a 55" Sony 3D LED i hook my laptop to and i must say, Nvidia 3D vision works much better on a native (nvidia ready) display with Nvidia glasses than on my Sony (using sony glasses) and Nvidia 3DTV Play. I mean MUCH better.
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Sorry but thats not true.

I posted my Nvidia 3D vision results here the other week, using 260.99 on a 15" ASUS laptop.
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?forum=152&mid=129340331088782428&page=1

Even though Nvidia CP had FFXIV listed as "not recommended" the game plays great in 3D aside from many CS.
I'll have to load these beta drivers up to see if they fixed the CS animations.

I also have a 55" Sony 3D LED i hook my laptop to and i must say, Nvidia 3D vision works much better on a native (nvidia ready) display with Nvidia glasses than on my Sony (using sony glasses) and Nvidia 3DTV Play. I mean MUCH better.


Actually take a look on this forum using search. Until 260.99 it was not working even if you forced it - except for some reason Nvidia 3D play automatically turned it on because the TV forces it on. A lot of people were complaining it was not working even if your forced it on, google search will show that as well.

I'll cite a quote from the first post I found
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has anyone gotten the game to work in 3D Vision? The USB emitter doesn't fire up automatically and hitting the button doesn't kick it in either





It's because the 3D Vision would not recognize the game client.

Starting with 260.99 it -started- working with regular 3d vision.
Since then it changed from Not Recommended to 3D-Vision Ready.

When the game was Not Recommended some options did not work correctly - namely the depth was wrong on a few things.
Now even the text and menus are in 3D and it looks great :)

For a game to get that label it has to sort of partner with Nvidia in optimizing the drivers and software for the game.
Otherwise it gets the label of Excellent or Good.
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#12 Jan 10 2011 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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I just wish that my eyes weren't absolutely terrible and that I could actually -see- movies/games in 3D instead of just seeing blurry fuziness and getting a headache :/

Wake me when they introduce holo.
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#13 Jan 10 2011 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Do passive lenses work for you or no 3d at all?

what about the 3d that doesn't require glasses?
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#14 Jan 10 2011 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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MajidahSihaam wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050192/nvidia-picks-wrong-3d-glasses-technology

have things changed?

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 7:04am by MajidahSihaam
I was at CES and I saw nothing in the line of passive polarized glasses for computers. Was all shutter glasses. Different from what the author of the article predicted would be the case, for what it's worth.
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#15 Jan 10 2011 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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It's probably supported now because of combined efforts of Square and Nvidia, because SE did mention that 14 will support 3d on both PC and PS3, and this technology needs to work on PC before they can expect it working on PS3.


3D will not be on PS3
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bsphil wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050192/nvidia-picks-wrong-3d-glasses-technology

have things changed?

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 7:04am by MajidahSihaam
I was at CES and I saw nothing in the line of passive polarized glasses for computers. Was all shutter glasses. Different from what the author of the article predicted would be the case, for what it's worth.


They did have passive polarized glasses for TVs though from Vizio and LG (lower end manufacturers):
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20027925-260.html

I'm not sure if they aren't releasing it for computer monitors because its not as cost effective, or it just looks crappy on a monitor that you only sit 1.5 feet from.
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It's probably supported now because of combined efforts of Square and Nvidia, because SE did mention that 14 will support 3d on both PC and PS3, and this technology needs to work on PC before they can expect it working on PS3.


3D will not be on PS3
Actually a free update in the firmware already let you reproduce 3D blue rays in your ps3, mind you, there are still some bugs with certain disks.

Personally I don't think this 3D technology has much to offer, in fact we still get nothing beyond the illusion of 3D, a 2D diplay/glasses combo which can map your head's position in relation to the screen to adjust the camera angle would be more interesting, something like this.

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#18 Jan 10 2011 at 9:38 PM Rating: Good
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I'm referring to FFXIV 3D support. Did you click/read the link?

Edited, Jan 10th 2011 10:42pm by hungerforce
#19 Jan 11 2011 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Eadieni wrote:
Do passive lenses work for you or no 3d at all?

what about the 3d that doesn't require glasses?


I haven't tried 3D that doesn't require glasses. I've only ever tried the red/blue 3D (Which ends up with me seeing the screen fuzzy and in purple, in 2D) or the clear glasses (like the ones you see with the Sony TVs) which just look terribly fuzzy. I kinda get a little bit of a slight 3D effect, but it's all too blurry.

For what it's worth; you know those focus pictures? The ones where they look like gibberish, but if you relax your eyes or whatever, you're supposed to see a picture? I can't see those either.

My eyesight is bad so I have to wear glasses. I've tried the 3D glasses in front of my regular glasses, tried behind them, tried pressing them together, tried spacing them apart, and tried without my regular glasses at all. Nothing.

I didn't even know there -was- 3D that didn't require glasses though. I would have to try it out and see. Where would I find this?
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#20 Jan 11 2011 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Eadieni wrote:
Do passive lenses work for you or no 3d at all?

what about the 3d that doesn't require glasses?


I haven't tried 3D that doesn't require glasses. I've only ever tried the red/blue 3D (Which ends up with me seeing the screen fuzzy and in purple, in 2D) or the clear glasses (like the ones you see with the Sony TVs) which just look terribly fuzzy. I kinda get a little bit of a slight 3D effect, but it's all too blurry.

For what it's worth; you know those focus pictures? The ones where they look like gibberish, but if you relax your eyes or whatever, you're supposed to see a picture? I can't see those either.

My eyesight is bad so I have to wear glasses. I've tried the 3D glasses in front of my regular glasses, tried behind them, tried pressing them together, tried spacing them apart, and tried without my regular glasses at all. Nothing.

I didn't even know there -was- 3D that didn't require glasses though. I would have to try it out and see. Where would I find this?
Was also there at CES. Sony has a 24" TV that is 3D without glasses. The effect isn't as strong as it is with glasses and the viewing angle is pretty limited. However they also have a 3D Handycam coming out in a few months that was there as well, and the viewfinder has a 3D mode that you can enable without glasses, and personally I thought that was a bit nicer. Definitely new technology that has a long way to go yet.

By the way, for those magic eye pictures, just cross your eyes. That relaxing thing didn't work for me either, but crossing them did the trick immediately.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Eadieni wrote:
Do passive lenses work for you or no 3d at all?

what about the 3d that doesn't require glasses?


I haven't tried 3D that doesn't require glasses. I've only ever tried the red/blue 3D (Which ends up with me seeing the screen fuzzy and in purple, in 2D) or the clear glasses (like the ones you see with the Sony TVs) which just look terribly fuzzy. I kinda get a little bit of a slight 3D effect, but it's all too blurry.

For what it's worth; you know those focus pictures? The ones where they look like gibberish, but if you relax your eyes or whatever, you're supposed to see a picture? I can't see those either.

My eyesight is bad so I have to wear glasses. I've tried the 3D glasses in front of my regular glasses, tried behind them, tried pressing them together, tried spacing them apart, and tried without my regular glasses at all. Nothing.

I didn't even know there -was- 3D that didn't require glasses though. I would have to try it out and see. Where would I find this?

A lot of it has to do with Depth Perception. I dunno if you've checked with your doctor, or if he mentioned anything about your DP when you got your eyes checked, since it's a separate diagnosis from near- or far-sightedness, but a messed up DP can make viewing 3D impossible.My DP is messed up to a degree, but in a way that actually enhances 3D images.

Funny thing is that my actual vision is nearly 20/20, though. I don't wear glasses or contacts regularly, but when I wear my prescribed glasses (not often), it looks weird to me... like the ground would elevate from what I normally see. Makes me wonder if what I see without glasses is a result of my messed up DP and what I see with glasses is what normal people see.

Edited, Jan 11th 2011 1:36pm by SoumaKyou
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Was also there at CES. Sony has a 24" TV that is 3D without glasses. The effect isn't as strong as it is with glasses and the viewing angle is pretty limited. However they also have a 3D Handycam coming out in a few months that was there as well, and the viewfinder has a 3D mode that you can enable without glasses, and personally I thought that was a bit nicer. Definitely new technology that has a long way to go yet.

By the way, for those magic eye pictures, just cross your eyes. That relaxing thing didn't work for me either, but crossing them did the trick immediately.


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A lot of it has to do with Depth Perception. I dunno if you've checked with your doctor, or if he mentioned anything about your DP when you got your eyes checked, since it's a separate diagnosis from near- or far-sightedness, but a messed up DP can make viewing 3D impossible.My DP is messed up to a degree, but in a way that actually enhances 3D images.

Funny thing is that my actual vision is nearly 20/20, though. I don't wear glasses or contacts regularly, but when I wear my prescribed glasses (not often), it looks weird to me... like the ground would elevate from what I normally see. Makes me wonder if what I see without glasses is a result of my messed up DP and what I see with glasses is what normal people see.


I dunno; it could be. It started for me around 14 or 15 years old when I started having trouble reading what the teacher was writing on the board; I can make out the fact that there are letters and numbers and crap, but I can't actually read them. Can't read signs on the road while driving without glasses either; I can see the cars and see that the signs are -there- but can't read what they way with glasses off.

The range at which I can no longer read words of a given size has decreased since then. I'm 26, and reading what I'm typing at 1680x1050 on my 23" monitor (at work) requires me to be within a foot of the screen before I can read it without squinting. Two feet away and I can just barely make it out if I squint and focus extremely hard. 1 1/2 feet is tolerable with a little squinting. (All without glasses, obviously).

I need new glasses too, but I keep putting off getting them. I know I shouldn't and that I'm probably just making my eyes worse by using prescriptions that are 5 years old, but I'm just lazy.
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#24 Jan 11 2011 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I'm glad someone else is happy about this. I've been using my LG 3DTV as a monitor when I play, so I was just forcing FFXIV into 3D mode when I wanted it.
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#25 Jan 12 2011 at 5:24 AM Rating: Good
3D tech may be the new way but I too wear glasses, and tho I've seen a 3D TV in action (They had one set up with special glasses too at a Costco near by apartment.) I can't really say I'm impressed at all. It looks nice, it's different, but really not all that impressive either. FFXI looks great even as it is already, so I doubt I'm missing much more by not having it.
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PLDXavier, Defender of Justice wrote:
Yeah, I'm glad someone else is happy about this. I've been using my LG 3DTV as a monitor when I play, so I was just forcing FFXIV into 3D mode when I wanted it.

Yeah FFXIV used to have to be forced 3D, but now its natively supported :D
New stuff is new stuff right? (especially something that I've not found any bugs with!)
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