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#1 Jan 13 2011 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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I have noticed when you go to the guild and get buffs for synthing there are three types. What is the difference? Does one help more than the other?
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#2 Jan 13 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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common = +1
guild = +2
master = +3
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#3 Jan 13 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Vedis wrote:
common = +1
guild = +2
master = +3



Awsome, thanks ^_^
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#4 Jan 13 2011 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.
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#5 Jan 13 2011 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


ive actualy noticed a difference in crafting with and without, a big difference regardless of wether it needs it
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#6 Jan 13 2011 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?
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Is Master still bugged? I always use Guild.
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#8 Jan 13 2011 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?


I don't have proof - and I don't care about proving it. It is up to you if you want to try it - but I succeed very well on my synths and I never use buffs unless the recipe calls for it. Since I am not breaking anything - why would I pay money? Maybe it does work and I just don't need it - but I have never noticed any difference.
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#9 Jan 13 2011 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?


I don't have proof - and I don't care about proving it. It is up to you if you want to try it - but I succeed very well on my synths and I never use buffs unless the recipe calls for it. Since I am not breaking anything - why would I pay money? Maybe it does work and I just don't need it - but I have never noticed any difference.



in most cases, if you are at or above the recipes optimal synth level, you dont need it at all

its when you are way below that it helps you not fail as much

often ill be synthing +9 recipes, only to start failing a bunch.....then i look up and oh what do you know, my support wore off
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?


I don't have proof - and I don't care about proving it. It is up to you if you want to try it - but I succeed very well on my synths and I never use buffs unless the recipe calls for it. Since I am not breaking anything - why would I pay money? Maybe it does work and I just don't need it - but I have never noticed any difference.


Hrmmm. You mention of recipes needing buffs? I'm not familiar with that...can you elaborate.
As for the synthing with or w/o buffs, I know I have noticed a difference like one poster stated. Maybe you are just lucky :P
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#11 Jan 13 2011 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?


I don't have proof - and I don't care about proving it. It is up to you if you want to try it - but I succeed very well on my synths and I never use buffs unless the recipe calls for it. Since I am not breaking anything - why would I pay money? Maybe it does work and I just don't need it - but I have never noticed any difference.


+1 to Olorinus. Whenever I try to do a recipe that calls for support and I don't get it (even several ranks below me), I get serious fails, and frequent unstable elements. But I can succeed on recipes several ranks above me without support (if they don't call for it).
#12 Jan 13 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


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LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
LillithaFenimore wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
my experience is that the guild buffs do nothing unless the recipes call for a buff.


Hrmmm is there proof some how of this?


I don't have proof - and I don't care about proving it. It is up to you if you want to try it - but I succeed very well on my synths and I never use buffs unless the recipe calls for it. Since I am not breaking anything - why would I pay money? Maybe it does work and I just don't need it - but I have never noticed any difference.


Hrmmm. You mention of recipes needing buffs? I'm not familiar with that...can you elaborate.
As for the synthing with or w/o buffs, I know I have noticed a difference like one poster stated. Maybe you are just lucky :P


If you attempt a synthesis that needs a buff it will say "this synthesis requires larger facilities"

That means either the buff you have is too low (guild versus master buff for example) or you have no buff and need one. I get the buff for recipes that ask for the buff (it will also say on one of the recipe screens during the selection process) but only those recipes... and I don't always get it even then (if I am over-ranked for the recipe). The only time I notice the difference of a buff is on recipes that specifically ask for it.

[edited for spelling]

Edited, Jan 13th 2011 11:18am by Olorinus
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#14 Jan 13 2011 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
I stopped using uncalled buffs after the first time Olorinus mentioned it and have noticed no difference.
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+1+2and+3 I thought it was 5 ,10 and 15, I know so little about this game.Smiley: frown
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#16 Jan 13 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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Hydragyrum wrote:
Whenever I try to do a recipe that calls for support and I don't get it (even several ranks below me), I get serious fails, and frequent unstable elements. But I can succeed on recipes several ranks above me without support (if they don't call for it).


Exactly, I've had the same experience thus far while leveling about every craft besides cooking to ~20-25. People are assuming that it works similarly to FFXI where it added to your crafting level, but I don't believe that is the case.

Of course I don't have proof for this either, and it would likely be difficult to test.
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