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FINAL FANTASY XIV Version Update (Jan. 18Follow

#1 Jan 18 2011 at 3:25 PM Rating: Excellent
A FINAL FANTASY XIV version update was performed at the below time.

* Starting the FINAL FANTASY XIV client after the version update will cause the software to update automatically.

[Date & Time]
Jan. 18, 2011 from 13:00 to 15:30 (PST)

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XIV

[Update Details]
- The amount of skill points and experience points gained from "fishing point investigation" type regional levequests have been adjusted.

- The following issues have been addressed:

* Players would experience a "(40000)4" error when entering the market wards.

* The FINAL FANTASY XIV client would forcefully shutdown when a player executes a macro with a specific combination of text commands.



*EDIT* And BartelX this is me apologizing to you saying you were correct this time

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 9:27pm by PerrinofSylph
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#2 Jan 18 2011 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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So does that mean the maint. that was going to take place later today not going to happen since this one already happened?
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#3 Jan 18 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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@lil later today? this is when it was supposed to happen


so basicaly, what we can take out of this is they found a fix to the market crashes that have been annoying the **** out of many of us.
as for the fishing fix, added addition while fixing the market crash bug
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great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.
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#5 Jan 18 2011 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
Eh? It happened on schedule no? It's 930pm here and the maint was scheduled for 9pm to 1130pm GMT (Greenwich Mean Time, London)

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 9:32pm by PerrinofSylph
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err sorry, misread what was online.
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


wow wow wait....your assuming ahead of time adjusted means you get less?

actualy, i always thought you got too little from these compared to others, somehow i bet they raised the ammount of SP gained to be more comparable to what the other harvesting jobs get for similar leves


talk about jumping the gun
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#8 Jan 18 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


I never saw it extremely high, but then again my fisher is low and all low jobs seem to get exceptional SP/XP from leves which then tapers off at some point.
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
[quote=Olorinus the Vile]great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


meh. We'll see.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 1:41pm by Olorinus
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Maybe one day we'll get a version update that actually updates something.

Vedis wrote:
wow wow wait....your assuming ahead of time adjusted means you get less?
Oh come on, dispense with the naivete; this is Square Enix.


Edited, Jan 18th 2011 9:38pm by Timorith
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#11 Jan 18 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
Well to be fair, DoW don't get to fight non-leve mobs for the remainder of their 30 minute leve... why should you get to on DoL? I've only put a small effort into DoL but it seemed to me the examine points leves were pretty good SP without GF on. Better than what I get as DoW on a R10 leve as R12 without GF.
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#12 Jan 18 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Timorith wrote:
/ac "Kick in the Balls" <Playerbase>

Maybe one day we'll get a version update that actually updates something.

Vedis wrote:
wow wow wait....your assuming ahead of time adjusted means you get less?
Oh come on, dispense with the naivete; this is Square Enix.


yeah... I am pretty sure it got nerfed
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#13 Jan 18 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
Well to be fair, DoW don't get to fight non-leve mobs for the remainder of their 30 minute leve... why should you get to on DoL? I've only put a small effort into DoL but it seemed to me the examine points leves were pretty good SP without GF on. Better than what I get as DoW on a R10 leve as R12 without GF.


except as DoL you can play for maybe 2 hours before you get fatigued. Try DoL and then come back to me and tell me it is faster than DoM/DoW/DoH
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#14 Jan 18 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
[quote=Olorinus the Vile]great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


meh. We'll see.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 1:41pm by Olorinus


How are you so sure that this is the change they made? Was this your interpretation of adjusted?

I was thinking they increased it because w/o aspect you get the exact same sp so whats the point of doing the leve?

Did i miss something?
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#15 Jan 18 2011 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
Timorith wrote:
/ac "Kick in the Balls" <Playerbase>

Maybe one day we'll get a version update that actually updates something.

Vedis wrote:
wow wow wait....your assuming ahead of time adjusted means you get less?
Oh come on, dispense with the naivete; this is Square Enix.


Edited, Jan 18th 2011 9:38pm by Timorith
Woah no super major changes on an update a server maintenance with <48 hours notice? Whodathunk...

But really the 40000(4) error fix is great, as is anything that caused the game to crash getting fixed. I for one hope they keep giving us these minor fixes, up till and after they do the next major version update.

Hopefully the fishing (nerf/buff) is either a boost or not a huge nerf. Sucks for people trying to grind DoL jobs.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 2:45pm by Manosuke
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#16 Jan 18 2011 at 3:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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AtmaWeapon0 wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
[quote=Olorinus the Vile]great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


meh. We'll see.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 1:41pm by Olorinus


How are you so sure that this is the change they made? Was this your interpretation of adjusted?

I was thinking they increased it because w/o aspect you get the exact same sp so whats the point of doing the leve?

Did i miss something?


I hope you are right but every time I've seen SE say "adjusted" it means nerfed. If it was something good they would say "enhanced" or something.
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#17 Jan 18 2011 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
I hope you are right but every time I've seen SE say "adjusted" it means nerfed. If it was something good they would say "enhanced" or something.


So true about the adjusted thing... except didn't they say adjustment when they reduced the SP needed to get to 20? Or did that show up straight away with the chart... I forget.
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#18 Jan 18 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
AtmaWeapon0 wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
[quote=Olorinus the Vile]great. by adjusted they mean they are making it harder to gain levels as a fisherman. I am pretty much at the end of my rope. Should have done those fishing leves before the maint. No point in even logging in now.


meh. We'll see.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 1:41pm by Olorinus


How are you so sure that this is the change they made? Was this your interpretation of adjusted?

I was thinking they increased it because w/o aspect you get the exact same sp so whats the point of doing the leve?

Did i miss something?


I hope you are right but every time I've seen SE say "adjusted" it means nerfed. If it was something good they would say "enhanced" or something.


Haha good point.

Guess we'll just have to see i hope i'm right too.
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Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)
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#20 Jan 18 2011 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Vedis wrote:
Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)


I have two of this kind of leve already in my list.

So I will check.
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#21Timorith, Posted: Jan 18 2011 at 3:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If only rating people down improved the game then XIV wouldn't be such a steaming pile.
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)


I have two of this kind of leve already in my list.

So I will check.


cool let me know how they go

if they really lowered it, then its fair game to complain

but maybe, just maybe, itl be raised?

also if they fixed it so its like every other leve and you cant abuse the bonus SP, i dont call that a bad thing to do, just natural since its how it probly shoulda been(even if we dont like it)
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Vedis wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)


I have two of this kind of leve already in my list.

So I will check.


cool let me know how they go

if they really lowered it, then its fair game to complain

but maybe, just maybe, itl be raised?

also if they fixed it so its like every other leve and you cant abuse the bonus SP, i dont call that a bad thing to do, just natural since its how it probly shoulda been(even if we dont like it)


Yeah, I know... I just wanted my shiny subligar and I've been stuck at R26 FSH forever ; ;

The ranks take so long...

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#24 Jan 18 2011 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:

except as DoL you can play for maybe 2 hours before you get fatigued. Try DoL and then come back to me and tell me it is faster than DoM/DoW/DoH



I just reactivated my account to do a little fishing and see some of the UI changes. I have a 22 leather worker too that could use some love. Please tell me this is an exaggeration though and I can fish for more then two hours :)
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The FINAL FANTASY XIV client would forcefully shutdown when a player executes a macro with a specific combination of text commands.


That wouldn't be

/goodbye
/logout


would it?
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Moxley wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:

except as DoL you can play for maybe 2 hours before you get fatigued. Try DoL and then come back to me and tell me it is faster than DoM/DoW/DoH


I just reactivated my account to do a little fishing and see some of the UI changes. I have a 22 leather worker too that could use some love. Please tell me this is an exaggeration though and I can fish for more then two hours :)


I wish. You can fish... or log or whatever - but you have to stop and do something else or else you start losing the fish even though you hit the mark or getting "no bites" messages all the time.

gathering classes have an added fatigue where they stop being able to effectively gather after awhile. It is hard to say when it kicks in exactly but your output will go down the tube.

I find if I break up my gathering with other activities it is not so bad, however - so if you get an alembic and turn the fish into shards as you get stacks you can fish for longer

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 2:17pm by Olorinus
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I really have a hard time understanding why they can't fix the market wards crashing, or at least let us know that it is a KNOWN ISSUE and what they plan to do about it. I mean, I'm really pretty happy with the Item Search feature, but the Market Wards crashing at LEAST once a day is absolutely unacceptable. This should be their top focus in terms of bug fixes. I haven't even bothered trying to sell things on my retainer because for the last 3 weeks, literally every time I have tried to, my retainer crashes out of the wards within a couple hours. Either fix them, or give us our AH already.
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)


I have two of this kind of leve already in my list.

So I will check.


cool let me know how they go

if they really lowered it, then its fair game to complain

but maybe, just maybe, itl be raised?

also if they fixed it so its like every other leve and you cant abuse the bonus SP, i dont call that a bad thing to do, just natural since its how it probly shoulda been(even if we dont like it)


Yeah, I know... I just wanted my shiny subligar and I've been stuck at R26 FSH forever ; ;

The ranks take so long...

:(


i level mine off the 1 leve i get per day that lets me just catch specific fish lol so i know how slow it can be

once i get my cooking training for cooking fish to sand im gonna fish a ton more though, itl be worth grinding when i can turn every fish i catch into SP for cooking on the side
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Vedis wrote:


once i get my cooking training for cooking fish to sand im gonna fish a ton more though, itl be worth grinding when i can turn every fish i catch into SP for cooking on the side


turning fish into shards/crystals is more fun imo.... for some reason the cooking ranks just come so easy for me and I don't make any sand
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:


once i get my cooking training for cooking fish to sand im gonna fish a ton more though, itl be worth grinding when i can turn every fish i catch into SP for cooking on the side


turning fish into shards/crystals is more fun imo.... for some reason the cooking ranks just come so easy for me and I don't make any sand


id be doing that too...but my fishing is currently grade 3, my cooking requires grade 3....my alchemy requires grade 5.....so you can see my dilema here on actualy being able to fish for alchemy mats right now

when i get up there im sure there will be plenty to go around on both sides
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:
Vedis wrote:
Yeah lets wait and see details on it, im sure someone will go do one of these leves and post what happened with it shortly after we come back up.....

perhaps one of the people paying attention to this post can do that?(ive used my 8 for the cycle already so i cant)


I have two of this kind of leve already in my list.

So I will check.


cool let me know how they go

if they really lowered it, then its fair game to complain

but maybe, just maybe, itl be raised?

also if they fixed it so its like every other leve and you cant abuse the bonus SP, i dont call that a bad thing to do, just natural since its how it probly shoulda been(even if we dont like it)


Yeah, I know... I just wanted my shiny subligar and I've been stuck at R26 FSH forever ; ;

The ranks take so long...

:(

Lol@the subligar, I've never used it outside the quest that gives it to you...

I'm curious about this update. I wonder if they don't know about the new bug with regional leves that I encountered 30 minutes before the servers went down.

I wanted to exchange the Iron Lake fishing points leve that I did earlier for a new one from todays leve reset and at the npc I got all the texts saying that I should now have it. It was also gone from the npc but when I arrived at Iron Lake the leve wasn't there, it still showed the one I supposedly traded in.

If they update it like you, and myself too, think then yes it will take a little longer to rank up but not that much. You can still do them without wasting GF on them and save that for the fish up specific fishies leves. The fishing spots leves will simply turn into a fish for normal sp but without taking your catch fatigue into consideration option so you can still get the full sp/fish for catching fishies in that grade of water.

Example of sp from this leve: With GF active I can fish for 30 minutes in grade 5 at Iron Lake giving me the same sp as if I was fishing in grade 6 on Tiger Helm Island. It's just that after 139 crab balls in grade 6 my character is showing signs of fatigue so effectively giving me like 15k sp max a day then I start to lose almost all fish I hook and as a result get half or less the sp if I reeled them in.

Oh well, I hope they fix this new regional leve trade in bug soon because that is worse then getting too few supplies or getting a lower leve then what you wanted from the trade in, both of which were fixed in emergency maintenance I believe.
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Arrrgh, I can't log in for a few days but also super-curious how fishing point leves were adjusted!
They are a very nice bonus when trying to get guild marks.
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Lol@the subligar, I've never used it outside the quest that gives it to you...


I figured but I guess I just feel like I gotta take the carrots I am offered. :P

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after 139 crab balls in grade 6 my character is showing signs of fatigue so effectively giving me like 15k sp max a day then I start to lose almost all fish I hook and as a result get half or less the sp if I reeled them in.


Off topic but glad to see crab balls continue to be awesome, lol
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Moxley wrote:
Olorinus the Vile wrote:

except as DoL you can play for maybe 2 hours before you get fatigued. Try DoL and then come back to me and tell me it is faster than DoM/DoW/DoH



I just reactivated my account to do a little fishing and see some of the UI changes. I have a 22 leather worker too that could use some love. Please tell me this is an exaggeration though and I can fish for more then two hours :)

It depends on the grade of water you fish in. As I ranked up and moved from grade 1 to grade 6 I noticed the catch fatigue coming faster and faster. This weekend I figured out I can fish up 1 full stack of crab balls and then 40 more from another stack before I start losing fish and get fewer bites when fishing in grade 6. I used to be able to fish for 8 hours in a row around grade 2-3 water.
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Personally I'm betting that they lowered the SP gain. LS member noticed an apparent disparity from other DOL leves of same type. If they did , oh well, just part of the balancing act.
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* The FINAL FANTASY XIV client would forcefully shutdown when a player executes a macro with a specific combination of text commands.



OMG!! Someone invented a /shutdown commend and SE is going to take it away?? :O
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
Well to be fair, DoW don't get to fight non-leve mobs for the remainder of their 30 minute leve... why should you get to on DoL? I've only put a small effort into DoL but it seemed to me the examine points leves were pretty good SP without GF on. Better than what I get as DoW on a R10 leve as R12 without GF.

To be fair, my ls mates were bragging last night about their 7 people group doing nothing but leve links taking them very fast through the ranks. From 31-42 getting 500 sp per mob with those linked leves. Our sp from these leves is maybe 120-130 sp per fish, atleast for me on rank 40 Iron lake fish spots leve.

On that note, has anyone ever tried to link fish leves to see if sp gets boosted in the same fashion? I'm 12 ranks ahead of the nearest fisher in my ls or I'd give this a try. Something tells me it won't though from seeing how the fish up specific fish leves work with multiple people in a group fishing, don't try it on those leves unless you really cannot fish them up and want a higher rank fisher to fish them up for you, taking your sp and finishing the leve for you.
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:


* The FINAL FANTASY XIV client would forcefully shutdown when a player executes a macro with a specific combination of text commands.



OMG!! Someone invented a /shutdown commend and SE is going to take it away?? :O


haha you're right! Maybe they should look in to whatever text combination it was... and implement it officially. XD
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Well to be fair, DoW don't get to fight non-leve mobs for the remainder of their 30 minute leve... why should you get to on DoL? I've only put a small effort into DoL but it seemed to me the examine points leves were pretty good SP without GF on. Better than what I get as DoW on a R10 leve as R12 without GF.

To be fair, my ls mates were bragging last night about their 7 people group doing nothing but leve links taking them very fast through the ranks. From 31-42 getting 500 sp per mob with those linked leves. Our sp from these leves is maybe 120-130 sp per fish, atleast for me on rank 40 Iron lake fish spots leve.

On that note, has anyone ever tried to link fish leves to see if sp gets boosted in the same fashion? I'm 12 ranks ahead of the nearest fisher in my ls or I'd give this a try. Something tells me it won't though from seeing how the fish up specific fish leves work with multiple people in a group fishing, don't try it on those leves unless you really cannot fish them up and want a higher rank fisher to fish them up for you, taking your sp and finishing the leve for you.


No, I have thought about it but I just assumed it wouldn't work since SE has made it as difficult as possible to rank up DoL.

And your above point is right on the mark...DoW/DoM have nothing to complain about in terms of SP compared to DoL
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#40 Jan 18 2011 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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Some nice fixes. I was afraid of entering markets when I had a teleport offer ready in case I would crash and lose the free port. I'm pretty sure the adjustment to fishing is a buff. Those leves were so crap I haven't done them in months. For example you would do find fishing spots leve that requires you to find 2 fishing spots. It takes 2 successful fishing attempts to 'scout' a node. So you get 200sp a node +50sp for any failed fishinging attempts for a total of whopping 500sp for the leve. On the other hand you can go fish up monke onke and get 500sp per monke onke and you have to catch 3 to finish the leve for a total of 1500sp+ which is in line with botany/mining type guildleves.
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Server is up. Cannot login tho. Says lobby connection error. Errrrrrr
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Server is up. Cannot login tho. Says lobby connection error. Errrrrrr


thats cuz you were trying to log in 15 minutes before it was up

hence....it wasnt up
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#43 Jan 18 2011 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
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Well I just tried Fishing Halatali.

I managed to catch 2 fish in all 3 locations, after the second fish I got message fish are agitated and my character stopped fishing. Upon recast I got the same sp as I would get when fishing there without a leve.

I got 300ish sp per fish, 6 fish total on the leve making about 1800-2000 sp for the rank 40 leve at rank 47. Before the update I got about the same amount, maybe a few hundred more.

I'm not sure if this is a good thing though, I kinda liked fishing for 30 minutes in one spot and talking with other fishers for about the same sp.

Edit: Just did Curing Gout, the other rank 40 leve at Halatali to fish up 3 Jade Marimo's, it has also been altered so that upon reeling in your third Marimo you automatically stop fishing and get the fish are agitated message.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 7:12pm by DJvGalen
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#44 Jan 18 2011 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Crashed and didnt even enter the wards :( all I had done was sell a bunch of stuff to an npc and started moving off :(

Ugh, crashed again almost immediately after logging in :( What has this update done!

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#45 Jan 18 2011 at 7:41 PM Rating: Good
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I really have a hard time understanding why they can't fix the market wards crashing, or at least let us know that it is a KNOWN ISSUE and what they plan to do about it. I mean, I'm really pretty happy with the Item Search feature, but the Market Wards crashing at LEAST once a day is absolutely unacceptable. This should be their top focus in terms of bug fixes. I haven't even bothered trying to sell things on my retainer because for the last 3 weeks, literally every time I have tried to, my retainer crashes out of the wards within a couple hours. Either fix them, or give us our AH already.


This.
I wish the update notes were a little more precise.
Are the wards stabilized? Is the update just addressing the weird error/DC we were getting in the wards?
After all the vitriol about the wards, you'd think as BartelX said, it would be a top priority to get them actually working, and in the interim, let us know it's a known issue and some kind of timetable on the fix.
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DJvGalen wrote:
Well I just tried Fishing Halatali.

I managed to catch 2 fish in all 3 locations, after the second fish I got message fish are agitated and my character stopped fishing. Upon recast I got the same sp as I would get when fishing there without a leve.

I got 300ish sp per fish, 6 fish total on the leve making about 1800-2000 sp for the rank 40 leve at rank 47. Before the update I got about the same amount, maybe a few hundred more.

I'm not sure if this is a good thing though, I kinda liked fishing for 30 minutes in one spot and talking with other fishers for about the same sp.

Edit: Just did Curing Gout, the other rank 40 leve at Halatali to fish up 3 Jade Marimo's, it has also been altered so that upon reeling in your third Marimo you automatically stop fishing and get the fish are agitated message.

Edited, Jan 18th 2011 7:12pm by DJvGalen


Ah, see cause I don't get all of my catches on my R30 leves... I got less than 600 SP total for the fishing cedarwood leve (without guardian aspect) with the nerf.

SE has effectively killed one of the very few things I still enjoyed doing and made it almost pointless to bother with this kind of leve anymore.

I am closer to rage-quitting than I have ever been before.
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#47 Jan 18 2011 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Fishing :/
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#48 Jan 18 2011 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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The amount of skill points and experience points...

I was estatic when I read this.


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...gained from "fishing point investigation" type regional levequests have been adjusted.

Felt so down after I read the rest.
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Olorinus the Vile wrote:

I got less than 600 SP total for the fishing cedarwood leve (without guardian aspect) with the nerf.


If I remember correctly that's how much you used to get anyway (refer to figures posted in my previous reply in this thread). So this was neither a nerf or a boost...
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#50 Jan 19 2011 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
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And your above point is right on the mark...DoW/DoM have nothing to complain about in terms of SP compared to DoL


I wasn't complaining, just stating that at the lower ranks my DoLs seemed to net more SP and XP than my DoWs of similar rank on appropriate ranked leves without GF. I don't like DoL jobs because of how long the leves take, I'm not arguing that DoL is faster to get the SP/XP than DoW, just saying that the net income seemed to be higher on the DoL at those ranks. I know I can do 3 low rank leves on DoW in about the same time as I can do a invistigate the point leve on DoL.
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#51 Jan 19 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
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What did they change about fishing exactly? I haven't had a chance to log on due to work lately (as well as a major cold kicking my ***). Was it basically killing the ability to stay at an investigation point after completing that objective, and purposely failing the leve to continue to gain the bonus SP?
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