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#1 Jan 18 2011 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey there, im sure this must be an over-asked question, but im going to ask it none the less.

Like many people the initial flurry of horrific reviews for FFXIV put me of trying the game and I never really gave much of a second thought to the title.
However after reading a fair deal about the Zerg that the Dev's seem to be doing to bring the game up to some sort of Polished release worthy state ive began to give it a second thought.

There still seems to be a lot of complaints about a lot of aspects of the game, with no real consensus across the board on what are "Really Good" aspects of the game(except the Graphics >.>) and I understand that it is a work in progress and that the next six months are a crucial period of the game.

However im looking for a new title to play and I want to know. Is it worth it to jump into this game tommorow and give it a serious shot? Or should I wait another six months and see what progress has been made.?

(As an extra question, what to "you" really stands out about this game? ive heard it has an excellent community, but a game cant be carried on community alone)

Cheers, and apologies if this is a tired repeated thread!
#2 Jan 18 2011 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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Right now the main issue in the game is a lack of content

HOWEVER, despite this there are a few things to consider if you are a new player

1) you wont need to jump into it right away anyway, it takes a while to level up, so even if it had an endgame, or mid game content out there, you wouldnt be seeing it for well over a month anyway.

2) it is a known issue that we need more in game to do, this is something we will see more of added over time(such as the NM patch we had last month). by the time you get to it, there may be more.


overall, i find the game rather fun to play, others dont, but you will see this opinion with every game out there. the only real way to judge any game is try it for yourself and ignore everyone elses opinions(cuz after all, is it up to you to decide whats fun, or is it up to others to decide what is fun for you?)
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#3 Jan 18 2011 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah it's pretty cool. You just have to find a new mindset while you're playing and consider your expectations. Once you can get over the things it lacks, you can enjoy what it has. Took me a while, but I've found reasons to play.
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#4 Jan 18 2011 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
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dont give them the money for this game. play DConline or wait for Rift or play wow cata, all of those are 100x better then this game.

this game isnt worth 20 dollars. and dont give a company that would release something like this money.

a few people find it fun, a majority hate it though.
#5 Jan 18 2011 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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ironmonk25 wrote:
dont give them the money for this game. play DConline or wait for Rift or play wow cata, all of those are 100x better then this game.

this game isnt worth 20 dollars. and dont give a company that would release something like this money.

a few people find it fun, a majority hate it though.

Rift better than FFXIV?


Lol,yeah,if you want another generic extreme themepark wow clone.
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#6 Jan 18 2011 at 6:16 PM Rating: Default
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#7 Jan 18 2011 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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TheonVenethiel wrote:
ironmonk25 wrote:
dont give them the money for this game. play DConline or wait for Rift or play wow cata, all of those are 100x better then this game.

this game isnt worth 20 dollars. and dont give a company that would release something like this money.

a few people find it fun, a majority hate it though.

Rift better than FFXIV?


Lol,yeah,if you want another generic extreme themepark wow clone.


http://rift.zam.com/forum.html?forum=222&mid=1294632551176218542&page=1

beta is more fun then FFXIV and a majority would agree.

and watch those negitive comments get fixed by next beta
#8 Jan 18 2011 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
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TheonVenethiel wrote:
ironmonk25 wrote:
dont give them the money for this game. play DConline or wait for Rift or play wow cata, all of those are 100x better then this game.

this game isnt worth 20 dollars. and dont give a company that would release something like this money.

a few people find it fun, a majority hate it though.

Rift better than FFXIV?


Lol,yeah,if you want another generic extreme themepark wow clone.



Any working mmorpg with a month worth of content is better than ffxiv at this point. I love(d) the FF series just as much as the next fantatic, but let's be realistic here.
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#9 Jan 18 2011 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, get it. It is free to play right now - for the foreseeable future - and if you are/were ever going to play it you probably aren't going to pay more for the box now than you would later.

In my opinion the game is fun. A lot of annoying stuff has been fixed already. There is not enough content, really, but the first 30 physical levels (for me) were pretty much awesome. You may get bored of it if you grind uber hard in it... but then you can just put aside your character and play more when content is added.

That's my two cents. If you want to try this game you might as well get in on the free play. It is "release" quality right now for the most part - just missing content.
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#10 Jan 18 2011 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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Okay... if you don't mind considering an opinion from a complete n00b to online gaming: Yes, this game is worth a shot. I have no idea what to compare it to as I have never played WoW or ANYthing else online ever, but I have played FFVII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII, and XIII and I REALLY like FFXIV.

Can it get a bit dull grinding leves and crafting? Ya... I guess, sometimes, if you play it for hoursandhoursandhoursandhours (which I do), but in which case, if you get bored sometimes, go do something ELSE for an hour. I like it. I find it fun to make things and chat to my LS buds and run around killing things and trying to find rare materials for synthing... it's... addictive.

But the main thing I love about this game is the world it creates. You can talk to all the NPC characters and get a real sense of how each city state is different and the fears, paranoias, loves, and distractions each place offers/has - even the economy in each place is different. There is a world here just BEGGING for more content, and I'm sure in time SE will provide it as they have a solid base to support it.

So ya... it needs more content, but it's still new, so I'm willing to give them time. It has a great potential, a rich world, a great community (when they aren't being whiny, impatient ******* about the lack of chocobos and airships so far, etc, anyway >>). The fighting system I find not bad actually, and I like the crafting system, too, even the annoying parts that FORCE you to make friends and/or money to buy things through the local economy.

Best advice: don't be afraid to play windowed with the net open to a reference site for crafting/selling and don't be afraid to ask when you are confused on something. I have never not been able to get help when I really needed answers on something, either from a forum or just from asking in-game. :)
#11 Jan 18 2011 at 7:25 PM Rating: Good
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Well it depends on what you are looking for in a game.
Ask yourself this...

do you have a lot of spare time or is your spare time limitied?
Do you mind playing a game for a while that lacks content until the Dev. put more in?
Do you want to grow with a game from the start or wait until it's booming?

Also what is your play style?
Do you like to party with others the so called "trinity", Tank, Healer, and DD?
Do you prefer solo/duoing with the occasional grouping?

If you have limited time and don't mind repetition of doing dailys, then this is the game for you. IF you like to solo, this is a game for you.

If you prefer to grow with a game, this is the game for you.

If you prefer to have tons of content at the start of a game, this is not the game for you. If you like the party aspect, not the game for you...and I'm sure you can find other things on the boards that can help you make your decision.
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#12 Jan 18 2011 at 8:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Syrokal wrote:
Hey there, im sure this must be an over-asked question, but im going to ask it none the less.

Like many people the initial flurry of horrific reviews for FFXIV put me of trying the game and I never really gave much of a second thought to the title.
However after reading a fair deal about the Zerg that the Dev's seem to be doing to bring the game up to some sort of Polished release worthy state ive began to give it a second thought.

There still seems to be a lot of complaints about a lot of aspects of the game, with no real consensus across the board on what are "Really Good" aspects of the game(except the Graphics >.>) and I understand that it is a work in progress and that the next six months are a crucial period of the game.

However im looking for a new title to play and I want to know. Is it worth it to jump into this game tommorow and give it a serious shot? Or should I wait another six months and see what progress has been made.?

(As an extra question, what to "you" really stands out about this game? ive heard it has an excellent community, but a game cant be carried on community alone)

Cheers, and apologies if this is a tired repeated thread!


I think what needs to be addressed is what specifically has changed between the horrible launch reviews and now and the answer is not much. Some improvements have been made, but 'better' is not the same as 'good'. The game doesn't have a community that is any better or worse than any other MMO. It's something of a peculiarity amongst fans of SE MMOs that they seem to insist on holding themselves aloft as a shining example of what an MMO community could be when in reality it's the same as you'll find anywhere else.

Obviously others would disagree but my answer would be no, the game isn't in a state where you would be likely to jump in tomorrow and find 3-6 months worth of entertainment value while you wait for the new dev team to work their magic. Most people seem to hit a wall within a month or two and then they buckle down and find something they can tolerate while they wait for changes or they just leave. And the reality, much as some might not like to hear it, is that more have opted to simply leave than have found something to keep themselves occupied. The game is struggling for a reason, and that doesn't change on the well wishes of optimists. Ultimately it's your time and your money, but the smart money is on waiting until the new dev team has had a chance to impact the game in a significant way.
#13 Jan 18 2011 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
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Ask yourself some questions before buying:

Do you want to wait 6 months or longer for any real content to be added?
Do you like not having an AH or any form of mail system but instead a retarded "might as well be an AH anyway" system that crashes every single day?
Do you like a slow sluggish battle system that takes 3-5 seconds just to pull out your weapon?
Do you like poor Guild systems that wont even give you the option to boot inactive members?
Do you like being penalized for having too much free time on certain days?
Do you like only having a couple options for leveling efficiently?
Do you like not having any dungeons or instances of the sort to run?
Do you like only being able to run windowed mode because fullscreen crashes 3/4 time and crashes when you alt+tab out to the desktop(windowed mode plays way worse too)?
Do you like being randomly dc'd and then unable to login for 20-30 minutes because of a "server" error?
Do you like spending 30+ minutes traveling to different areas?
Do you like unnecessary prompts for nearly every action you try to do?

Am i missing anything?
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#14 Jan 18 2011 at 8:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah it's pretty cool. You just have to find a new mindset while you're playing and consider your expectations. Once you can get over the things it lacks, you can enjoy what it has. Took me a while, but I've found reasons to play.


i somewhat agree with this, but i should not have to change my mindset to enjoy something.

i also don't think it's good advice to tell someone they have to ignore problems with a game to like it.

my advice to the OP: try it, see if you like it. the price went down, and it's currently free to play for a few more months at least.
#15 Jan 21 2011 at 10:55 AM Rating: Default
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TheonVenethiel wrote:
ironmonk25 wrote:
dont give them the money for this game. play DConline or wait for Rift or play wow cata, all of those are 100x better then this game.

this game isnt worth 20 dollars. and dont give a company that would release something like this money.

a few people find it fun, a majority hate it though.

Rift better than FFXIV?


Lol,yeah,if you want another generic extreme themepark wow clone.


Yeah a fun theme-park Rift.. or the grinding festival Final Fantasy XIV .. My god the choice is so hard -sarcasm-
I don't know about you but I like roller coasters.. Go with the theme-park!
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#16 Jan 21 2011 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Ask yourself some questions before buying:

Do you want to wait 6 months or longer for any real content to be added?
Do you like not having an AH or any form of mail system but instead a retarded "might as well be an AH anyway" system that crashes every single day?
Do you like a slow sluggish battle system that takes 3-5 seconds just to pull out your weapon?
Do you like poor Guild systems that wont even give you the option to boot inactive members?
Do you like being penalized for having too much free time on certain days?
Do you like only having a couple options for leveling efficiently?
Do you like not having any dungeons or instances of the sort to run?
Do you like only being able to run windowed mode because fullscreen crashes 3/4 time and crashes when you alt+tab out to the desktop(windowed mode plays way worse too)?
Do you like being randomly dc'd and then unable to login for 20-30 minutes because of a "server" error?
Do you like spending 30+ minutes traveling to different areas?
Do you like unnecessary prompts for nearly every action you try to do?

Am i missing anything?


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#17 Jan 21 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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The game has improved and the recent communications suggest it is going to improve further. In some ways it is still beta hence not charging it's members which makes it hard to recommend buying it. Personally I find it has it's frustrations but I am enjoying it and also enjoying the updates as they arrive. More game content is the priority here and they have agreed to address this. Would I buy it now with the knowledge I have ... yes I think I would.
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#18 Jan 21 2011 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with one of the above replies. Since you are new to the game, you have plenty of content up through your 30's. Just be sure not to ignore the crafting portion of the game since it is almost essential that you repair (or know others that will repair) your equipment. I am still really enjoying the game. Join a good Linkshell (guild) to help get over the learning curve and you are set.
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#19 Jan 21 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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As they are annoucing now some fast updates about the game (starting from sometime after beginning of february), I would say that now is the time to join so you can start leveling some jobs, do some stoyline/job quests. This will keep you busy until the near to come updates are implemented without leaving you far behind.

So to everyone wondering, now is the time to join and some time after next update to come back for those who left or are in 'stand-by'!!!

/cheers
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#20 Jan 21 2011 at 11:36 AM Rating: Good
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If you have a high end computer, don't plan on playing every day and can afford to pay 30-50 bucks, then I'd recommend it.

If you want a game you play everyday that's full of activities that'll keep you busy, I'd recommend WoW or maybe Rift (when it comes out).
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