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#52 Jan 19 2011 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh and while I were browsing DoL I saw this:

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It did need to be nurfed, my LS and I leve linked the promising location leves a few times and before patch i was agetting over 300sp/catch, and doing that for 25mins straight I could net 15k SP+ in 30mins from one leve.


Tell me if Botanist and Miner can do that.

Edited, Jan 19th 2011 10:43pm by Khornette
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#53 Jan 19 2011 at 10:54 PM Rating: Good
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Khornette wrote:
Oh and while I were browsing DoL I saw this:

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It did need to be nurfed, my LS and I leve linked the promising location leves a few times and before patch i was agetting over 300sp/catch, and doing that for 25mins straight I could net 15k SP+ in 30mins from one leve.


Tell me if Botanist and Miner can do that.

Edited, Jan 19th 2011 10:43pm by Khornette



WOW I didn't realise the exploit was this serious. FSH are lucky they didn't get hit by the ban stick like conjurers did for the healing skill point exploit when game was launched.
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#54 Jan 19 2011 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Llester wrote:
SE has always used the term "adjusted" to mean "changed". it doesn't mean nerf. the people who keep asserting this are mistaken. They've been using that word since XI, and it just means what it says. pull your skirts back up.


sub default me all you want, but you're mistaken. i guess no one here ever played FFXI.
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#55 Jan 19 2011 at 11:10 PM Rating: Good
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Llester wrote:
Llester wrote:
SE has always used the term "adjusted" to mean "changed". it doesn't mean nerf. the people who keep asserting this are mistaken. They've been using that word since XI, and it just means what it says. pull your skirts back up.


sub default me all you want, but you're mistaken. i guess no one here ever played FFXI.
I have, but this matters why?
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#56 Jan 19 2011 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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Llester wrote:
SE has always used the term "adjusted" to mean "changed". it doesn't mean nerf. the people who keep asserting this are mistaken. They've been using that word since XI, and it just means what it says. pull your skirts back up.


I don't know of too many MMO developers who simply state on a regular basis in patch notes that something has changed without explaining the change. SE is notorious for it and people remember the nerfs a lot more than they remember the buffs. All SE has to do to solve the issue is to start being a little more transparent with their patch notes and stop being so **** vague. If SE is serious about regaining trust, one of the first things they need to address is their tendency to dance around the explanations people are looking for. If they're up front about the changes it doesn't mean people aren't going to be less unhappy with them, but it does mean nobody would have grounds to turn around and accuse them of being devious.
#57 Jan 19 2011 at 11:59 PM Rating: Default
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Kirby, Star Breaker wrote:
Llester wrote:
Llester wrote:
SE has always used the term "adjusted" to mean "changed". it doesn't mean nerf. the people who keep asserting this are mistaken. They've been using that word since XI, and it just means what it says. pull your skirts back up.


sub default me all you want, but you're mistaken. i guess no one here ever played FFXI.
I have, but this matters why?



you know what? it doesn't really matter. Also, you're a douche. cheers.
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#58 Jan 20 2011 at 1:35 AM Rating: Good
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90 % of peoples problem with fishing is they never listen to me when I tell everyone about the hidden timer. You don't jig the second you get a bite, then after about 10 seconds you lose the fish on your next jig, all the way through the minigame this happens. If you have a lot of lag spikes, then that can make you lose your fish all of the time too, since you get the messages late.

Most people fail catching fish since they are caught up chatting. Personaly I'm happy they fixed this, never used this exploit as I've been doing something better, fishing a grade higher since fishermen aren't locked to nodes only. I for one don't see the problem in this, while everyone is allowed their opinion and I'll leave them to that, but personally I can't comprehend the difference.

Vile mentions that he is angry since he wants to do a leve for 25 minutes, yet the leve has always taken about 5 minutes to do. So maybe I'm looking at it from a cut and dry perspective of this, but all people were doing was just fishing until the time ran out or almost ran out without touching the nodes, EI. Not doing the guild leve, and now they complain it only takes 5 minutes to do. In theory they can still do the same and fish in any old spot, since the nodes they use for the leves are basically just a node taken from somewhere else and fished up items copied and pasted more or less from another node.

So what I can't understand is, people complain not being able to spend 25 minutes on the leve when they can, while spending that time on the leve could just as well be spent on just fishing any old where for the same amount of amusement, since all it boils down to is standing still and playing a minigame over and over. But again, this could just be my scewed perspective?

Either way, I still enjoy fishing and if done right and you know what you are doing, I personally make 25K SP in 2-3 hours before I hit fatigue and have to wait til it resets to get decent SP. While on botany and mining it's anywhere between 15-20K at my current rank, and with the fact there is no grade 6 to switch over to. So I still think peoples arguments against fishing is unfair, it just feels slow, but as long as you stay focused and know what you are doing, using the right baits, depths and don't let yourself get distracted, as well as memorizing the most common places fishes are on the minigame so you can instantly fish em up in 1-2 tries, with 150SP per fish before sweat of brow, then you are going to make more SP than you could with botany and mining.

Any, I'm sorry if I went on a little long with this rant, I do understand some people were upset with the fixes. I've posted my preliminary findings on the fishing, but I don't know how it affects gaurdian aspect on it, not to mention I have about 30-40% fishing surplus built up, so it's hard to get clear numbers.
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#60 Jan 20 2011 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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#61 Jan 20 2011 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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When fishing was overhauled in FFXI to stop botters and they made you move your rod to catch anything they hugely improved it for me. I did some fishing here and I found it completely tidious and boring. Please SE make it more fun and actually feel more like fishing then like gambling.
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#62MojoRysyn, Posted: Jan 20 2011 at 9:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Mikhalia is soooo cool. he/she was in beta 3!! wow mikhalia is so wise and strong!
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