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#1 Jan 19 2011 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now
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#2 Jan 19 2011 at 10:34 PM Rating: Default
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And in that same time my LS grown from 30 people active to 45 people active, oh dang. Load time has been better than before too, weird.
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#3 Jan 19 2011 at 10:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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KC was decent when I was logged on tonight.
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#4 Jan 19 2011 at 10:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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hmmm maybe a bad night? I was on the K-club last night and it was hopping
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#5 Jan 19 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah you must have logged on at a quiet time. Its usually pretty busy in there.
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#6 Jan 19 2011 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
i was on all day today from about 9 am ish to around 4 or 5 pm central time

so i cant say anything about "prime time" to be fair as i logged off just as "NA" primetime started
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#7 Jan 19 2011 at 11:21 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.
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"Too peaceful right? I think we should add aggressive monsters inside cities, like sewer rats and gangsters."
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#9 Jan 19 2011 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
i was on all day today from about 9 am ish to around 4 or 5 pm central time

so i cant say anything about "prime time" to be fair as i logged off just as "NA" primetime started


There you have it...I'm in EU and play in a US shell, and until US prime, I'm one of the only ones online...as soon as it hits 7-8PM things starts to get rolling.

Most people do have a RL and something to do...so they won't be logged in during the day until evening.
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"Too peaceful right? I think we should add aggressive monsters inside cities, like sewer rats and gangsters."


Would definitely keep things interesting...

Violent gangs of lalafells, FTW!

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 12:37am by TheRealDestian
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#11 Jan 20 2011 at 5:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.
#12 Jan 20 2011 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Does feel like it has become quieter to me. Perhaps as characters rank up, they become more spread out.
But we do need more content very soon. Even I am becoming bored, and there have been a few days recently when I have not logged in.

As for the 5 min loading screen, that does not sound right, feels about 15 seconds max for me.
Is your PC busy with disk access? Maybe clear up hard disk space or defragment.
Or network traffic? Maybe downloading a movie in the background slowing it down.
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UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Why yes I'm in denial and the server is a ghost town. ****, those are a lot of ghosts.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/640/ffxiv1295524018.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4163/ffxiv1295524320.jpg
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#14 Jan 20 2011 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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For the OP:

I am from Rabanastre as well and i can tell you there is a lot of people playing and Ls are geting stronger. How can i prove that? Simply:

- Always behest with full people, plus some other geting on the waiting list.
- All the camp from Thanalan region are full. I see always people around.
- See many big party mega link leves.

OK, i will give you some advice. If you loged on Grindania, get out of the forest and move to Uld. There is the city, there are the player, there is the market. Why? because the main story HQ is there. simple as that. Plus the leves in this zones are good for SP too.

Another advice, most people play between 14:00 - 23:00 EST time.

Have good luck and fun. Most probably we will meet in Camp Broken Water. Everyones meet in there ;-)

Cya.

#15 Jan 20 2011 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Why yes I'm in denial and the server is a ghost town. ****, those are a lot of ghosts.


Hmmm those look like the R40 leve crystals? If so thats how it looks on selbina becase everyone thats 30-49 are running leves there. But its the same people all the time. Two groups of 15 doing leves would sure make it seem like there are alot of people. After the leves run out I'm sure its a ghost town.
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Khornette wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Why yes I'm in denial and the server is a ghost town. ****, those are a lot of ghosts.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/640/ffxiv1295524018.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4163/ffxiv1295524320.jpg


Sorry, those pictures prove absolutely NOTHING about how crowded the servers are. As someone else mentioned, 2 LS's doing r40 leves can account for most of the players there. AFKers can account for a bunch too. Trying to pass that off as "proof" of anything is just silly. Granted, it's nice to see that there are at least groups running leves or whatever on your server... on Kashuan I'm lucky to see those kinds of groups even at r40 crystals. Sometimes there's a ton of people like in your screens, but a lot of times there's absolutely noone there. I did 4 straight solo behests at Camp Bald Knoll, which was very sad to me.

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 11:16am by BartelX
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#17 Jan 20 2011 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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Why yes I'm in denial and the server is a ghost town. ****, those are a lot of ghosts.


Hmmm those look like the R40 leve crystals? If so thats how it looks on selbina becase everyone thats 30-49 are running leves there. But its the same people all the time. Two groups of 15 doing leves would sure make it seem like there are alot of people. After the leves run out I'm sure its a ghost town.


Right? Gee. Thanalan Camps.

Where are your pictures of Gridania? or better yet Gridania camps?

I ran through Gridania yesterday and saw 1 person the whole time. It's like a ******* ghost town. Why not show a picture of Nanawa Mines or Horizon while you're at it? You have 2 pic of the most popular spot to grind in the entire game. Give me a break.
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Right? Gee. Thanalan Camps.

Where are your pictures of Gridania? or better yet Gridania camps?

I ran through Gridania yesterday and saw 1 person the whole time. It's like a ******* ghost town. Why not show a picture of Nanawa Mines or Horizon while you're at it? You have 2 pic of the most popular spot to grind in the entire game. Give me a break.


And yet that is two more pictures than anyone who claims FFXIV is a ghost town have provided.

Frankly, it's impossible to determine how populated the servers are. There are far too many variables and any "proof" anyone provides is incredibly anecdotal. Sure, those pictures could be of a LS event. But any pictures will be skewed. Calling him out on it while providing no "proof" of your own is hypocritical though. He's at least trying.

I just find it amusing that there are two threads with people on both sides "positive" the servers are either empty or full, and yet no one can prove either way.
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And yet that is two more pictures than anyone who claims FFXIV is a ghost town have provided.


Do you honestly want me to post pictures of empty camps? What exactly would that prove? Sorry if I won't humor you with something completely meaningless. As you yourself said, he has no proof. THAT is what we are calling him out on. He is trying to pass off those pictures like that makes his server super active, and as YOU already pointed out, there is no way for us to know that. It's not hypocritical, it's pointing out the flaws in someones logic.

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 11:19am by BartelX
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#20 Jan 20 2011 at 10:19 AM Rating: Default
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And yet that is two more pictures than anyone who claims FFXIV is a ghost town have provided.


Do you honestly want me to post pictures of empty camps? What exactly would that prove? Sorry if I won't humor you with something completely meaningless.


If you had finished reading my post, you'd see that I agree that it would prove nothing. I was simply stating the hypocrisy of saying someone is wrong when the facts cannot be proven by anyone here.

In address to your edit: It's hypocritical because no one here can know for sure if populations are increasing, decreasing, or staying the same. All we have is "I feel" or "I think".

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 10:21am by Hydragyrum
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Hydragyrum wrote:
BartelX wrote:
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And yet that is two more pictures than anyone who claims FFXIV is a ghost town have provided.


Do you honestly want me to post pictures of empty camps? What exactly would that prove? Sorry if I won't humor you with something completely meaningless.


If you had finished reading my post, you'd see that I agree that it would prove nothing. I was simply stating the hypocrisy of saying someone is wrong when the facts cannot be proven by anyone here.

In address to your edit: It's hypocritical because no one here can know for sure if populations are increasing, decreasing, or staying the same. All we have is "I feel" or "I think".


I did finish reading your post and responded as such. Show me where I once posted "I feel" or "I think". I posted my experience, that a good portion of the time there is noone at r40 camps on Kashuan, backed up by the fact that I did 4 consecutive behests without a single other person there, and behest are the times where a crystal will be the MOST active. I also did not say that his server WAS a ghost town, rather that his images do not prove anything to the contrary, which they don't.

But hey, thanks for the repeated rate downs for expressing a viewpoint. Very mature.
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#22 Jan 20 2011 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Why not look for another LS if yours is dead?
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#23 Jan 20 2011 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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if i was trying to go for a social game i wouldnt play this one, that screen shot proving that its BOOMING....shows what 25 players....wow /golf clap. you could log onto WoW and see that almost any where....and if you are a city...you will see a lot more. go on too ffxi..you would see a lot more then that..just saying if you want a social game, i would look else where.
#24 Jan 20 2011 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
It's near 7pm UK time so hardly peak and we're 13 of 116 with almost every one talking. And this is lax. Usually 20+ people on non-leve reset days and half the shell on during peak... I think you logged in on a bad day and created a thread in the wrong forum. Maybe you shoulda posted this in the LS forum first...
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#25 Jan 20 2011 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
Obviously the longer you stick with the game, the more populated it's going to seem. You enjoy the game, so you find others who enjoy the game and actually level up with them, progressing through higher level camps. As others have stated, early camps in Gridania, Limsa Lominsa are next to dead. You might say, "that's fine, everyone's leveled up beyond that point!" Though, when this happens, it means you have 0 influx of new players.

Prior to them taking out the search function, populations just kept dipping, and dipping, down to about 800-1500 (during peak times), why would they all of a sudden start booming? Because they did a good UI update? I really doubt that would somehow bring tons of people back (long term anyhow). I'm quite content in accepting the fact that this game will probably coast until PS3 release, the PC version is a write off until then. The launch of the PS3 version is also their chance at getting people from the PC world back into this game, so I hope they get that right.
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to the OP: Don't sweat the long load time. It was likely a fluke I get it sometimes where it takes a couple mins other times its virtually instant. Check it out of the course of a weeks worth of logins and see how it goes.

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#27 Jan 20 2011 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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BartelX wrote:
Khornette wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Why yes I'm in denial and the server is a ghost town. ****, those are a lot of ghosts.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/640/ffxiv1295524018.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4163/ffxiv1295524320.jpg


Sorry, those pictures prove absolutely NOTHING about how crowded the servers are. As someone else mentioned, 2 LS's doing r40 leves can account for most of the players there. AFKers can account for a bunch too. Trying to pass that off as "proof" of anything is just silly. Granted, it's nice to see that there are at least groups running leves or whatever on your server... on Kashuan I'm lucky to see those kinds of groups even at r40 crystals. Sometimes there's a ton of people like in your screens, but a lot of times there's absolutely noone there. I did 4 straight solo behests at Camp Bald Knoll, which was very sad to me.

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 11:16am by BartelX


When the **** did I say the server is crowded? Seriously you people need to learn to read. I'm stating what I've seen, and since my prime time is coincided with Japan prime time there tend to be more people around, and I'm playing on the most populated server since Beta if going by previous server players count.

And people tend to forget that FFXIV fail to show all the models in the zone. Seriously, have you ever seen a screenshot of all available retainer in the ward? The answer is NO. Didn't you complain that you have to move around for the other retainer models to load?

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 6:37pm by Khornette

BartelX wrote:
But hey, thanks for the repeated rate downs for expressing a viewpoint. Very mature.


Why yes, thanks. So rating down other people expressing another viewpoint is your right and when it came to rating you down you start saying stuff. Very mature.

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 6:39pm by Khornette
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#28 Jan 20 2011 at 6:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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WillCider wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.



Wrong. Most people who apply to our linkshell (about 80%) are new players even though we have a rank requirement in place. Then again our linkshell also hasn't lost as many people to inactivity as some others (though we have lost a good # it was far from a majority).

Most of my 70 person friend's list still logs in as well. Not saying people didn't quit, just that most who did would never have lasted anyways and when I only count people I miss (rather people I'm not actually glad have quit the game) the number isn't really that much worse than XI's turnaround pre-75.
#29 Jan 20 2011 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Tarvu wrote:
WillCider wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.



Wrong. Most people who apply to our linkshell (about 80%) are new players even though we have a rank requirement in place. Then again our linkshell also hasn't lost as many people to inactivity as some others (though we have lost a good # it was far from a majority).

Most of my 70 person friend's list still logs in as well. Not saying people didn't quit, just that most who did would never have lasted anyways and when I only count people I miss (rather people I'm not actually glad have quit the game) the number isn't really that much worse than XI's turnaround pre-75.


While this may be true for your linkshell, from what I've been reading and seen, theres is definitely a trend of linkshells disbanding and a small group of larger linkshells taking over. My point is proven by those camp pictures the guy posted in this thread. If thats the most popular camp, its disheartening to see only 2-3 linkshells there.
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WillCider wrote:
Tarvu wrote:
WillCider wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.



Wrong. Most people who apply to our linkshell (about 80%) are new players even though we have a rank requirement in place. Then again our linkshell also hasn't lost as many people to inactivity as some others (though we have lost a good # it was far from a majority).

Most of my 70 person friend's list still logs in as well. Not saying people didn't quit, just that most who did would never have lasted anyways and when I only count people I miss (rather people I'm not actually glad have quit the game) the number isn't really that much worse than XI's turnaround pre-75.


While this may be true for your linkshell, from what I've been reading and seen, theres is definitely a trend of linkshells disbanding and a small group of larger linkshells taking over. My point is proven by those camp pictures the guy posted in this thread. If thats the most popular camp, its disheartening to see only 2-3 linkshells there.

Have to repeat again:

And people tend to forget that FFXIV fail to show all the models in the zone. Seriously, have you ever seen a screenshot of all available retainer in the ward? The answer is NO. Didn't you complain that you have to move around for the other retainer models to load?

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1300/ffxiv1295569259.jpg

Do you think there are only this many retainers in this instance? Do you?

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#31 Jan 20 2011 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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For the OP:

I am from Rabanastre as well and i can tell you there is a lot of people playing and Ls are geting stronger. How can i prove that? Simply:

- Always behest with full people, plus some other geting on the waiting list.
- All the camp from Thanalan region are full. I see always people around.
- See many big party mega link leves.

OK, i will give you some advice. If you loged on Grindania, get out of the forest and move to Uld. There is the city, there are the player, there is the market. Why? because the main story HQ is there. simple as that. Plus the leves in this zones are good for SP too.

Another advice, most people play between 14:00 - 23:00 EST time.

Have good luck and fun. Most probably we will meet in Camp Broken Water. Everyones meet in there ;-)

Cya.




I've done the same. Grid and LL markets are dead in comparison to what is posted in the wards in Uldah as well, at least on Mysidia server. My ls's hang out spot is in Uldah, and find most of the action around those camps/areas pretty well populated. I've been to Gridania maybe 3 times in the past month.
#32 Jan 20 2011 at 7:30 PM Rating: Default
Khornette wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Tarvu wrote:
WillCider wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.



Wrong. Most people who apply to our linkshell (about 80%) are new players even though we have a rank requirement in place. Then again our linkshell also hasn't lost as many people to inactivity as some others (though we have lost a good # it was far from a majority).

Most of my 70 person friend's list still logs in as well. Not saying people didn't quit, just that most who did would never have lasted anyways and when I only count people I miss (rather people I'm not actually glad have quit the game) the number isn't really that much worse than XI's turnaround pre-75.


While this may be true for your linkshell, from what I've been reading and seen, theres is definitely a trend of linkshells disbanding and a small group of larger linkshells taking over. My point is proven by those camp pictures the guy posted in this thread. If thats the most popular camp, its disheartening to see only 2-3 linkshells there.

Have to repeat again:

And people tend to forget that FFXIV fail to show all the models in the zone. Seriously, have you ever seen a screenshot of all available retainer in the ward? The answer is NO. Didn't you complain that you have to move around for the other retainer models to load?

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1300/ffxiv1295569259.jpg

Do you think there are only this many retainers in this instance? Do you?



you took 2 pictures of the same group of people. If they are all visible on the screen or not doesnt really matter. saying that there are 60 people there would be a big stretch, so if that camp is considered crowded or populated compared to others those pictures still show the sad state of the game.

Ive seen everyone use the excuse of new players when defending the population.. but how long do you guys think those new players will stick around when they figure things out? we all know the state of the game, and alot of people stay because they have hope that SE will fix this mess. im fairly sure everyone who visits these forums are sticking around just waiting, maybe playing maybe not.

now imagine how many people dont come to these forums.

those new players wont last long.



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<snip>no one here can know for sure if populations are increasing, decreasing, or staying the same. All we have is "I feel" or "I think".
I bet this is why SE removed the total number of players that used to display in the party search window. They don't want to have access to such clear evidence that the population of our servers is decreasing. On my server, just before they removed that feature, there were approximately 800ish players online during NA peak hours. I imagine it's about half that now, but can no longer prove it.
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#34 Jan 20 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Khornette wrote:
WillCider wrote:
Tarvu wrote:
WillCider wrote:
UncleRuckusForLife wrote:
The One and Only FinalFanXIV wrote:
Due to family issues i have not been able to play for the past month and a half or so. Long story but anyway...

I log into Rabanastre today, only to find 2 of my linkshells completely dead. only KC remains and even then VERY few. think the most i saw was 5.

and the population in general seems to have taken a major downward spiral.

This makes me very sad. as a social player in a social game. it's not very fun when theres no one to socialize with.


also is it just me or does the game take 2x or more longer to load then it used too. and i dont mean lag. lag is fine almost 0 for me. i mean starting up the game i picked my character and it seemed to be a black screen with "Loading" at the bottom for at LEAST 5 minits.. iirc it used to take maybe a minit max. and nothing on my end has changed same pc running nothing else in the background.

That's all for now


I keep hearing people say their LSs are growing and their servers are full of people. When I have logged on I see just the opposite. Maybe im just a "glass is half empty" player, i dont know. Then again maybe they are just in denial. I wish SE would tell us if we are gaining more people than we are losing because thats some good news they should share. To hear some people talk you would think thats the case. Im just not seeing it.


Honestly its probably just a false sense of what is really happening. As more people leave, linkshells disband and the hardcore players left from the disbanded linkshell leave looking for another linkshell. So what happens is all the hardcore players sticking this game out end up congregating in a small number of large linkshells. Just because your linkshell is increasing in members doesn't mean the servers are more active. It probably just means that out of a linkshell of 20 original members, 15 quit and the 5 left joined your linkshell.



Wrong. Most people who apply to our linkshell (about 80%) are new players even though we have a rank requirement in place. Then again our linkshell also hasn't lost as many people to inactivity as some others (though we have lost a good # it was far from a majority).

Most of my 70 person friend's list still logs in as well. Not saying people didn't quit, just that most who did would never have lasted anyways and when I only count people I miss (rather people I'm not actually glad have quit the game) the number isn't really that much worse than XI's turnaround pre-75.


While this may be true for your linkshell, from what I've been reading and seen, theres is definitely a trend of linkshells disbanding and a small group of larger linkshells taking over. My point is proven by those camp pictures the guy posted in this thread. If thats the most popular camp, its disheartening to see only 2-3 linkshells there.

Have to repeat again:

And people tend to forget that FFXIV fail to show all the models in the zone. Seriously, have you ever seen a screenshot of all available retainer in the ward? The answer is NO. Didn't you complain that you have to move around for the other retainer models to load?

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1300/ffxiv1295569259.jpg

Do you think there are only this many retainers in this instance? Do you?



I don't want to sound rude but your post doesn't make sense statistically. If there were a good amount of linkshells at that crystal, we would see a good random distribution of them in those pictures. You are claiming that only 2-3 are showing up by pure luck. The odds of this happening are very low.
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theSubligaravenger wrote:
you took 2 pictures of the same group of people. If they are all visible on the screen or not doesnt really matter. saying that there are 60 people there would be a big stretch, so if that camp is considered crowded or populated compared to others those pictures still show the sad state of the game.


Yes, then tell me where in my 2nd ss are the group with Japan flag? They were a full pt of 15 btw, they must be doing a good job at hiding in 2nd ss to be of the same group of people again.

WillCider wrote:
I don't want to sound rude but your post doesn't make sense statistically. If there were a good amount of linkshells at that crystal, we would see a good random distribution of them in those pictures. You are claiming that only 2-3 are showing up by pure luck. The odds of this happening are very low.


So you meant that by being populated, every players have to be staying afk at the aetheryte instead of going out doing leves/killing stuff? And please tell me how many LS crest were in the 1st ss? Next you will be saying that's because they are mixed LS party.

And in my retainer ss, don't you think it's weird that only majority of retainers heading toward the red star one are showing up but not the retainers on my back?

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 8:40pm by Khornette

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 8:43pm by Khornette
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#36 Jan 20 2011 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
Khornette wrote:
theSubligaravenger wrote:
you took 2 pictures of the same group of people. If they are all visible on the screen or not doesnt really matter. saying that there are 60 people there would be a big stretch, so if that camp is considered crowded or populated compared to others those pictures still show the sad state of the game.


Yes, then tell me where in my 2nd ss are the group with Japan flag? They were a full pt of 15 btw, they must be doing a good job at hiding in 2nd ss to be of the same group of people again.

WillCider wrote:
I don't want to sound rude but your post doesn't make sense statistically. If there were a good amount of linkshells at that crystal, we would see a good random distribution of them in those pictures. You are claiming that only 2-3 are showing up by pure luck. The odds of this happening are very low.


So you meant that by being populated, every players have to be staying afk at the aetheryte instead of going out doing leves/killing stuff? And please tell me how many LS crest were in the 1st ss? Next you will be saying that's because they are mixed LS party.

And in my retainer ss, don't you think it's weird that only majority of retainers heading toward the red star one are showing up but not the retainers on my back?

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 8:40pm by Khornette

Edited, Jan 20th 2011 8:43pm by Khornette


mayabe outside of the picture somewhere? or are you really going to argue that the same people are not present in both pictures? even you said it yourself not all models are displayed on screen... i understand they do exsist... somewhere.. but like i was saying earlier... 15 people arent going to make your arguement and only show how desperate you are to defend the obvious population issues.
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