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Poll: Content versus an AHFollow

#1 Jan 21 2011 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Question #8 asked:

8. Which of the following would you like to see implemented first? (Choose only one)
More story-based quests/mini-quests
More notorious monsters (NMs)
More levequests (including new varieties)
Player vs. player content (PvP)
Large-scale player vs. environment content (PvE)
Expanded tutorials
Auction House
Other

I'm simplifying this down to the number two answer: Auction House. The point is argued as to whether an AH being in #2 proves that it is not that important or whether it was only #2 because people could not pick two options.

What did you pick, and how do you feel about an AH?
I picked something other than AH because I dislike the idea and would never want to see one added.:11 (7.5%)
I picked something other than AH because I do not personally want an AH, although I would not necessarily be against one.:40 (27.4%)
I feel an AH is important and should be added, but I picked something other than AH because I felt that what I picked was more important.:74 (50.7%)
I picked Auction House because I thought the AH was the most important thing.:21 (14.4%)
Total:146


Quite possibly the shortest poll I've made in a while. Just trying to whip up some data.

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 11:58am by Mikhalia
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#2 Jan 21 2011 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?
#3 Jan 21 2011 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


I am happy. This was just to settle this point in the other thread.

This isn't an "omg AH should have won" post. Because it shouldn't have and I'm glad it didn't. I was worried it would.

I just wanted to see a breakdown of what other people felt vs what they voted since, based on the other thread, I'm not the only one who felt that the AH skewed the results.
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#4 Jan 21 2011 at 11:08 AM Rating: Excellent
Heyo Mikhalia, you don't have an option of "I don't know what an Auction House is, so I picked something different." If you did, I would choose that one :-)
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#5 Jan 21 2011 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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As much as everyone was clamoring for an AH, if you look at the recent threads about server pop, no one seems to be claiming it's lack of an AH that's driving away players - it's lack of content.
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I hope this doesn't come across in a mean or rude way as that is not my intention. However, I think using this poll to prove the point you indicated in the other thread is moot at this point. While it has been stated even before the poll that they wanted to monitor the markets and continue to refine it (whether that would have inevitably lead to an auction house I don't know), they have explicitly put the proposition of an auction house on the table now and it is going to be addressed.

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The problem with that question was that it asked you to pick only one. Most people who are in favor of an AH are also in agreement that the market wards will suffice while they work on adding content, but they do need an AH eventually.

Unfortunately, the poll gave no option to pick two, so people who wanted "An AH -and- content" had to pick one and only one, and most of them picked that content was more important.


My perception after seeing the results of the poll lead me to believe that everything is on the table for review or is something to be added, and they simply wanted to see in what order things should be addressed. Although it's a shame they didn't do something along the lines of "rank these from most to least important" if people are in agreement that the market wards are ok for now and content is more important, I don't see a problem since improving the wards has been something they said they would work on even before this poll.

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Of the same majority who are outspoken about wanting an AH, most of them agree that content is more important to the game than an AH -right now-.


If they agree that content is more important, it's a good thing they voted content as most important. Again, it's a shame they didn't allow us to personally rank what priority the available choices should have had, what's done is done. All the poll options seem to be of some importance, the numbers have simply given priority (at least I think so).

So if all of our problems are being addressed, what's the problem now?
#7 Jan 21 2011 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Choice 3 of course. I have heard more people say that they have left the game because there is not enough content to keep them interested.
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I picked more story based quests. I miss that immersion from FFXIs quests, like when those SOBs ambushed Nana Mihgo with an onion bomb for the blaze spikes quest.

I want an AH, but it's not as important to me right now as: better UI, more class definition and seperation, battle adjustments, crafting adjustments, gathering adjustments, exp/sp adjustments, party adjustments, more immersive quests, chocobos, airships, and personal character space that I can possibly decorate.

(also, unlike SE when I say 'adjustment' I mean 'improvement')

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#9 Jan 21 2011 at 11:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.
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#10 Jan 21 2011 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.


Who's to say I'm upset, don't put words in my mouth please. I just don't see the need for a poll about the poll asking essentially the same questions with a slight nuance in whether you thought an auction house should be a second priority or not.
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ooops i picked the 2nd one, i meant the third one
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#12 Jan 21 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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ThePacster wrote:
Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.


Who's to say I'm upset, don't put words in my mouth please. I just don't see the need for a poll about the poll asking essentially the same questions with a slight nuance in whether you thought an auction house should be a second priority or not.


How about a poll on whether or not people think there should have been an additional poll?
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#13 Jan 21 2011 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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Simool wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.


Who's to say I'm upset, don't put words in my mouth please. I just don't see the need for a poll about the poll asking essentially the same questions with a slight nuance in whether you thought an auction house should be a second priority or not.


How about a poll on whether or not people think there should have been an additional poll?


Fair enough, but we may need to take a poll first.
#14 Jan 21 2011 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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ThePacster wrote:
Simool wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.


Who's to say I'm upset, don't put words in my mouth please. I just don't see the need for a poll about the poll asking essentially the same questions with a slight nuance in whether you thought an auction house should be a second priority or not.


How about a poll on whether or not people think there should have been an additional poll?


Fair enough, but we may need to take a poll first.


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#15 Jan 21 2011 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
Simool wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
Transmigration wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


Why not? This is a forum, people will create threads to discuss changes and information. Sometimes new threads. Why do people who don't even moderate these forums get so upset by this? Don't you have anything better to do than rain on people's parades? I try to be positive, but christ relax people.


Who's to say I'm upset, don't put words in my mouth please. I just don't see the need for a poll about the poll asking essentially the same questions with a slight nuance in whether you thought an auction house should be a second priority or not.


How about a poll on whether or not people think there should have been an additional poll?


Fair enough, but we may need to take a poll first.


Despite our differences, rate up for wit.


I'm on it.

EDIT: Done.

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 1:14pm by Mikhalia
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I don't understand the point of this, or even the argument that spawned this. Who the **** cares about an AH? Content is WAY more important, and the SE poll question was completely correct in not separating the two. The poll did its job. It weighed the importance of EITHER option, not both. The point was to gauge the options and see which should be implemented FIRST, not which should be implemented eventually.
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I don't understand the point of this, or even the argument that spawned this. Who the **** cares about an AH? Content is WAY more important, and the SE poll question was completely correct in not separating the two. The poll did its job. It weighed the importance of EITHER option, not both. The point was to gauge the options and see which should be implemented FIRST, not which should be implemented eventually.


Implement this Souma! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5TajZYW6Y&feature=fvw
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Transmigration wrote:
SoumaKyou wrote:
I don't understand the point of this, or even the argument that spawned this. Who the **** cares about an AH? Content is WAY more important, and the SE poll question was completely correct in not separating the two. The poll did its job. It weighed the importance of EITHER option, not both. The point was to gauge the options and see which should be implemented FIRST, not which should be implemented eventually.


Implement this Souma! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ5TajZYW6Y&feature=fvw

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#19 Jan 21 2011 at 12:31 PM Rating: Default
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Well an AH wouldn't hurt the game, but I truly believe it won't help.
Players won't leave because there isn't an AH, and adding an AH will have wasted all the time spent on the Market Wards.

A better search to the wards and you have an AH that you have to walk to pick up your items instead of a delivery box.

What's so wrong with that?
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#20 Jan 21 2011 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
ThePacster wrote:
I'm sorry, but is this really necessary? Can people not just be happy that we have some concrete information from SE about what's going to be happening with the game?


I am happy. This was just to settle this point in the other thread.

This isn't an "omg AH should have won" post. Because it shouldn't have and I'm glad it didn't. I was worried it would.

I just wanted to see a breakdown of what other people felt vs what they voted since, based on the other thread, I'm not the only one who felt that the AH skewed the results.


if adding the AH option skewed the results, then it's obvious it's not something that should be overlooked by the dev team.

i ended up picking the AH option. not because i think it's the most important thing, but in real life i'm not the kind of person who goes browsing stores for hours. i get in and i get out. the market wards just anoys me in a way that makes me feel like ive been shopping for longer than i needed to.

i do think content and story is the first thing that should be implemented, since that is what the game truly lacks. if i could have picked 2, i would have also chosen this.

i know some people will not like me for making this choice, but i knew what i was doing when i decided to pick AH. i wasn't just hopping on the AH bandwagon, i made a decision based on my preferences, and what bothers me the most while playing the game, which is the market ward system.
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If they add an AH so be it but that is small feature in comparison to core game content...imo
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I feel an AH is important and should be added, but I picked something other than AH because I felt that what I picked was more important.
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I picked something other than AH because I do not personally want an AH, although I would not necessarily be against one.


Voted for this. Content comes first above everything else, and market wards are working good enough. I know most people around here just want a full blown AH, i'm still willing to give market wards a chance with further tuning. But, I don't oppose an AH in anyway, and certainly won't ***** if one shows up.



Edited, Jan 21st 2011 5:28pm by Ipwnrice
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#24 Jan 21 2011 at 5:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks Mik. I asked the same question in my response to the Producers's letter.

5.) I don't care about the AH much either way, but I felt what I picked was more important. (More Quests)

In a way, I do care about the AH because I want other players to be happy so the game can be healthy. Does that make sense?

EDIT: On second look, your #2 is what I said so that's what I voted for.

I would be very curious to see what would happen if SE simply polled the playerbase - AH: YES or NO.


Edited, Jan 21st 2011 6:15pm by RufuSwho
#25 Jan 21 2011 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
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the way i see it, AH implemented = existing players will be more likely to stay.

new content = the above, plus more players come (back)

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#26 Jan 21 2011 at 9:04 PM Rating: Default
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"I feel an AH is important and should be added, but I picked something other than AH because I felt that what I picked was more important."

I want an AH eventually but that will not save the game or bring in new players. Implement some new, solid content, THEN start working on the AH. We can deal with the ********* Wards for now.
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Eadieni wrote:
adding an AH will have wasted all the time spent on the Market Wards.


Yeah: not only did they rename some of the wards, but they added a mostly-working bare-bones search feature! How could we scrap that when we've come so far!?

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 10:40pm by KaneKitty
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I don't care how much time and effort they put into the Wards, bad design is bad design and it needs to be changed.
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