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#1 Jan 21 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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I think this will be a godsend for the future of the game, the community and pretty much all progress it will make.

The ZAM forums unfortunately tend to generate a "hive mind mentality" via the karma system. Players who post a suggestion that others disagree with will have their post sub-defaulted in seconds with no actual counter-argument appearing in the thread as to why they don't like it. In the end, it encourages people to not post any dissenting opinions, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what this game needs right now.

SE needs feedback. They need to know what players don't like about the game because that's the only way they're ever going to make it better. The ZAM forums are just too full of people who will latch onto something sub-par and claim they love it just to feel like an individual.

Thank you, SE, for giving us official forums!
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My thoughts exactly. That was one of the standout points in the letter from Yoshi-P (Ridiculous, haha).

I want to be able to go on an official forum and see the actual devs take on issues and get responses from community members. Hopefully the forum will be tied to accounts, so that random asshats aren't spewing forth nonsense on them. I think this will go a long way to re-establishing what a lot of FFXI/FFXIV players consider broken lines of communication.

Good call and I hope to play FFXIV for a while to come.

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#3 Jan 21 2011 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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Probably not good news for forums like Zam! They might lose a bit of traffic; however, if the official linkshell forums are any indication, I think Zam will be alright.
#4 Jan 21 2011 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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If Forum=21 is any indication, the posting might slow down around here as players start posting on the official forums, but Zam should still be lively with regulars.
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#5 Jan 21 2011 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Kashius wrote:
I want to be able to go on an official forum and see the actual devs take on issues and get responses from community members. Hopefully the forum will be tied to accounts, so that random asshats aren't spewing forth nonsense on them. I think this will go a long way to re-establishing what a lot of FFXI/FFXIV players consider broken lines of communication.


Exactly, and I just hope they don't implement another ridiculous karma system that will have people afraid of saying anything "unpopular", lest the fan-brigade leap upon their post like a pack of angry, yapping french poodles.
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Forums in general are elitist in nature, its impossible to get around. All you can do is suppress the elitism the best you can with proper community managers and admins.
#7 Jan 21 2011 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
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Out of all the announcements he made in the post, this was the one thing that caught my eye.
While this should be interesting, yes agreed that those who use it have to tied to your account with them. Then its a matter on how they set it up. Who will moderate it? Will it be designed as a outlet for info from the developers? (currently have lodestone as a source of info, perhaps tie the 2 together somehow)

As far as zam losing traffic, I don't think they will lose that much because people will still post on here about other issues as well. Perhaps it may make everything better where the post we see are about in game discussions.
Time will tell.
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#8 Jan 21 2011 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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yup, we can move all the suggestions and debats to the official forums for dev's to see, and ZAM can go back to inside jokes and fanboyism.
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Mitsuuko wrote:
Forums in general are elitist in nature, its impossible to get around. All you can do is suppress the elitism the best you can with proper community managers and admins.


True, but ZAM takes it one step further by giving forum-goers the ability to rate down threads they don't even post in, meaning not only can you smother potentially good ideas because you simply don't like them, but you can also become an angry stalker.

For example, if someone suggests that players should lose a level every time they die, naturally, players are going to argue against it, but that means the player who came up with the idea might decide to hunt those players and rate down every post they ever make from then on out of spite, even though the idea was absolutely terrible.
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TheRealDestian wrote:
Mitsuuko wrote:
Forums in general are elitist in nature, its impossible to get around. All you can do is suppress the elitism the best you can with proper community managers and admins.


True, but ZAM takes it one step further by giving forum-goers the ability to rate down threads they don't even post in, meaning not only can you smother potentially good ideas because you simply don't like them, but you can also become an angry stalker.

For example, if someone suggests that players should lose a level every time they die, naturally, players are going to argue against it, but that means the player who came up with the idea might decide to hunt those players and rate down every post they ever make from then on out of spite, even though the idea was absolutely terrible.


Its not a uncommon tool for forums to use. To be blunt, its a method used when a forum doesnt want to moderate themselves so they let the community self moderate. This in turn as you say, increasing the flow of elitism and squishes any decenting opinions.

I honestly dont think anyone is arguing that ZAM has the most pleasant community, and even more so I doubt any ZAMers actuall come here for a pleasant community in the first place. Then again if you think this is bad go to any MOBA fan forum =p
#11 Jan 21 2011 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Official Forums are a kind of a mixed bag.

Everyone (in the US at least) expects them now out of MMOs and it's really convenient for the company to communicate things...

But man, I don't want to imagine the amount of sewage the moderators would have to wade through and clean up on a daily basis on an official board.
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TheRealDestian wrote:
Mitsuuko wrote:
Forums in general are elitist in nature, its impossible to get around. All you can do is suppress the elitism the best you can with proper community managers and admins.


True, but ZAM takes it one step further by giving forum-goers the ability to rate down threads they don't even post in, meaning not only can you smother potentially good ideas because you simply don't like them, but you can also become an angry stalker.

For example, if someone suggests that players should lose a level every time they die, naturally, players are going to argue against it, but that means the player who came up with the idea might decide to hunt those players and rate down every post they ever make from then on out of spite, even though the idea was absolutely terrible.


Honestly, I think the karma system would work better if it wasn't anonymous and you could see everyone who rated a post up or down.

That aside, I think that if/when SE has their own forums, there are three points I'm curious about:

1) Will there be split forums for NA/EU/JP players or will everyone post in the same place? If they do, will translations be available? They may not always be accurate, but if you see someone post something, how can you know if you agree or not when you don't know what they said?

2) How heavily will the forums be moderated? Will they quickly lock or delete threads they find unconstructive? Exactly what constitutes "unconstructive enough" to warrant a lock or deletion?

3) Will character names/servers be visible when posting, or will all posting be anonymous? I hope that character names will be attached to posts, but I know that JPs have a preference towards anonymity when posting on forums so this may end up being the route they go.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:

1) Will there be split forums for NA/EU/JP players or will everyone post in the same place? If they do, will translations be available? They may not always be accurate, but if you see someone post something, how can you know if you agree or not when you don't know what they said?

2) How heavily will the forums be moderated? Will they quickly lock or delete threads they find unconstructive? Exactly what constitutes "unconstructive enough" to warrant a lock or deletion?

3) Will character names/servers be visible when posting, or will all posting be anonymous? I hope that character names will be attached to posts, but I know that JPs have a preference towards anonymity when posting on forums so this may end up being the route they go.


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In addition, we will begin a beta phase for the official FFXIV forums in all four languages (Japanese, English, French, and German) around the beginning of March. If all goes well, the forums should be up and ready for public use sometime in early April. I hope you are all looking forward to the forums as much as you are the changes to the game!


From the sounds of that, perhaps they will have a version for the different languages. Not entirely sure and can't read minds..... at times I wish i could but for now.... let the waiting game begin once again.
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#14 Jan 21 2011 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd be happy to be rid of the karma campers.

They should change it to where you can't rate the same user down in 24 hours or something. Cuz some people target everything you post regardless and just hit Rate Down because they got a grudge or something.

Official forums will be nice, hopefully moderated.
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#15 Jan 21 2011 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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I've REALLY enjoyed the ZAM forums for the last 6 or so years. BUT we really need a centralized forum, one that is tied to actual SE accounts. I believe that this will strengthen the community. I also hope that the mods will squash any obvious trolling and maybe be able to give forum/account suspensions if someone is completely out of control (e.g. racism, spamming QQ posts, etc..)
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#16 Jan 21 2011 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Mitsuuko wrote:
I honestly dont think anyone is arguing that ZAM has the most pleasant community, and even more so I doubt any ZAMers actuall come here for a pleasant community in the first place. Then again if you think this is bad go to any MOBA fan forum =p


I actually think the Valve forums use a good system. Each thread can be individually rated from 1-5 stars by everyone. If the thread sucks, after 2-3 ratings, it'll show the average which would usually be 1 star.

There's also a rep system where people can give rep to posters for good posts but it can only be taken away by a moderator for an infraction. That way, the good gets rated up but there's no way to punish a poster for an idea that might not be popular.
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#17 Jan 21 2011 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Official forums are a no brainer, I mean come on.....Rly SE...RLY. That should have been done before beta.

Happy to see them, will make it much easier for them to get feedback.

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 3:27pm by KristoFurwalken
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My condolences to SE make sure you have a filter up and running got a feeling going to need it..
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If it's anything like the beta forums it's gonna get crazy
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#20 Jan 21 2011 at 4:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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If it's anything like the beta forums it's gonna get crazy


Just so long as my name doesn't change every time I log in/F5/click anything :)
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#21 Jan 21 2011 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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If it's anything like the beta forums it's gonna get crazy


If it's anything like the beta forums, everyone will say things are just super, even if the entire game is falling apart around them.
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#22xthunderblazex, Posted: Jan 21 2011 at 7:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry, you will only be allowed to post in the official forums if you were selected in the initial beta phase. No one after that should ever have forum rights.
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But...but it's mine. :(
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#24cornyboob, Posted: Jan 21 2011 at 8:07 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) I cant wait!!!! then i can leave this site.
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I cant wait!!!! then i can leave this site.


You could like...leave now. If you really wanted to. Just sayin'.
#26LyleVertigo, Posted: Jan 21 2011 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Finally I wouldn't be stuck here anymore lol
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Finally I wouldn't be stuck here anymore lol


That's what you think. You can check out of ZAM anytime you like...but you can NEVER leave.
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Finally I wouldn't be stuck here anymore lol


That's what you think. You can check out of ZAM anytime you like...but you can NEVER leave.


It is scary cause it's true.
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#29 Jan 21 2011 at 10:04 PM Rating: Excellent
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.
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Archfiend Luceo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.


I guess I assumed this is exactly how it'd be. I suspect the official forums will be part of the lodestone, and you have to choose an active character account to make a lodestone account, therefore character linked forums.

Of course the true trolls will just buy a new character slot to achieve their anonymity. But there shouldn't be too many people willing to literally pay to be trolls... Right?
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But there shouldn't be too many people willing to literally pay to be trolls... Right?


You'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't...).

This is why I think ONE active forum account and ONLY ONE is the way to go.

They'd have to pay another $15 per month to be a troll.

Edited, Jan 21st 2011 11:29pm by TheRealDestian
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LyleVertigo wrote:
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Finally I wouldn't be stuck here anymore lol


That's what you think. You can check out of ZAM anytime you like...but you can NEVER leave.


It is scary cause it's true.



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#33 Jan 21 2011 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Archfiend Luceo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.


Won't having your ID in full view of everyone lead to increased hacking attempts? It seems that it would.
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Quanta wrote:
Archfiend Luceo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.


Won't having your ID in full view of everyone lead to increased hacking attempts? It seems that it would.


I think he just means character ID, like forcing your character signature here on ZAM. I don't think he means address and credit card info.

I don't see how your character name as your user name would attract hackers.
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Hydragyrum wrote:
Archfiend Luceo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.


I guess I assumed this is exactly how it'd be. I suspect the official forums will be part of the lodestone, and you have to choose an active character account to make a lodestone account, therefore character linked forums.

Of course the true trolls will just buy a new character slot to achieve their anonymity. But there shouldn't be too many people willing to literally pay to be trolls... Right?


I would assume so too, but we're all westerners. The Japanese have a huge thing for anonymous posting. 2chan comes to mind as one noteworthy example.

That's why I'm wondering if SE would do the boards the western way (with poster names) or the eastern way (without them)
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#36cornyboob, Posted: Jan 22 2011 at 1:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is what happens to me all the time. Will be glad to get rid of the Biggots
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I'd be happy to be rid of the karma campers.

They should change it to where you can't rate the same user down in 24 hours or something. Cuz some people target everything you post regardless and just hit Rate Down because they got a grudge or something.

Official forums will be nice, hopefully moderated.


This is what happens to me all the time. Will be glad to get rid of the Biggots


A) It's bigots, not biggots.

B) You get rated down all the time because your ideas are terrible, you do nothing but ***** and whine, and no one loves you.

C) You will most likely be banned or muted from the official forums in the first week.

D) They shouldn't change it to once per 24 hours because that just gives more power to trolls. However, the other idea of unable to rate down a person until you post sounds more logical to me, and makes karma campers more obvious by them having to respond to each post with a "this is stupid" post or "+1" post, making them really obvious to a moderator, or actually make them argue on the topic, which might make them not a troll anymore.
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cornyboob wrote:
Eadieni wrote:
I'd be happy to be rid of the karma campers.

They should change it to where you can't rate the same user down in 24 hours or something. Cuz some people target everything you post regardless and just hit Rate Down because they got a grudge or something.

Official forums will be nice, hopefully moderated.


This is what happens to me all the time. Will be glad to get rid of the Biggots


A) It's bigots, not biggots.

B) You get rated down all the time because your ideas are terrible, you do nothing but ***** and whine, and no one loves you.

C) You will most likely be banned or muted from the official forums in the first week.

D) They shouldn't change it to once per 24 hours because that just gives more power to trolls. However, the other idea of unable to rate down a person until you post sounds more logical to me, and makes karma campers more obvious by them having to respond to each post with a "this is stupid" post or "+1" post, making them really obvious to a moderator, or actually make them argue on the topic, which might make them not a troll anymore.


If you had to at least post in the thread before you could vote it down it'd be fine.

Better yet, don't tie poster rep with posts they make. Rate threads separately from rating users.
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People here and their **** poor personalities persuade my preferences towards an official phorum.
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#40 Jan 22 2011 at 7:51 PM Rating: Excellent
Archfiend Luceo wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, no anonymity whatsoever. Log into the forums with your official Square-Enix Id same as the Lodestone. No socks, no random new troll accounts that repeatedly pop up. Your name and reputation are out there and if you act like a complete jackass then you deal with the consequence of those actions. This also prevents people who quit the game from coming back just to make new accounts to rain on everyones parade. I know people love being anonymous but as far as the official forums I feel that is the way to go.


Great post, agree 100% people should be accountable for their comments, rate up!!!
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I feel this is appropriate, given the current climate of the thread.
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I feel this is appropriate, given the current climate of the thread.


I never played WoW, but didn't the RealID system actually link a person's forum account to their real life name? That I think IS too far. Not because I think anyone can find me with just my name, but I play games to escape real life. Using my given name as my screen-name would really detract from the ever decreasing immersion online games have these days.

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Hydragyrum wrote:
Quanta wrote:
I feel this is appropriate, given the current climate of the thread.


I never played WoW, but didn't the RealID system actually link a person's forum account to their real life name? That I think IS too far. Not because I think anyone can find me with just my name, but I play games to escape real life. Using my given name as my screen-name would really detract from the ever decreasing immersion online games have these days.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2011 8:43pm by Hydragyrum


It was proposed that your RealID appear on the forums, but Blizzard withdrew it at the the last minute. I believe one of the community reps gave out their real name as a precursor to the system, and then people tracked down all of their personal information and posted it publicly on the forums within 24 hours.
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I find that the karma system saves me a great deal of time reading bad posts. I was tricked into reading this one because it was rated excellent..
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Official forums could be good, or they could start to resemble the official US Playstation forums. I feel braincells die every time I visit those. They're heavily moderated and there is very little in the way of free thinking allowed.

I know my opinions are biased, but they could either be a really good thing, or a really bad thing. We'll just have to wait and see. Either way, I think Zam will still be a good home for a lot of people, there are some great posters here that I would be sad to see leave.
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People here and their **** poor personalities persuade my preferences towards an official phorum.


I see what you did there...
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If FFXIV forums go well for SE, I hope they put in forums for FFXI and just general SE forums as well. They'll be a massive help for every kind of game development they do, not just MMOs.
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Official forums could be good, or they could start to resemble the official US Playstation forums. I feel braincells die every time I visit those. They're heavily moderated and there is very little in the way of free thinking allowed.
I've never visited the PS forums so I can't really judge. What sort of things are moderated like this? I've only been on a handful of official forums and only one to date really comes down hard on posts (I'm looking at you, Perfect World forum with your "do not mention rival MMO games" rule!).

Any examples of the sort of extreme moderation that official forums get up to?
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#49 Jan 23 2011 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
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When they make offical forums it will just be one more forum I lurk in when im on line, I already have 3-4 different forums up at once for ffxiv, college football, MMA, old games I used to play. One more tab couldnt hurt.
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#50 Jan 23 2011 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Wint wrote:
Official forums could be good, or they could start to resemble the official US Playstation forums. I feel braincells die every time I visit those. They're heavily moderated and there is very little in the way of free thinking allowed.

I know my opinions are biased, but they could either be a really good thing, or a really bad thing. We'll just have to wait and see. Either way, I think Zam will still be a good home for a lot of people, there are some great posters here that I would be sad to see leave.


some of us have been here for years and dont plan on going anywhere, nothing says that if there is an official forum you cant also visit any other forums
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#51 Jan 23 2011 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Quanta wrote:
Lukky wrote:
If it's anything like the beta forums it's gonna get crazy


If it's anything like the beta forums, everyone will say things are just super, even if the entire game is falling apart around them.


You must've been on different beta forums than me then. I think most people simply gave up towards the end tho.
I think the karma system on Zam works. There are ways to combat being karma bombed, mods are pretty quick about it from what I've seen. I will say I'd never used the /ignore function here until the FFXIV forums came along. My red arrow usage has gone up honestly, where before I mostly just rated posts up when I thought they deserved it and ignored the others.
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