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#1 Jan 23 2011 at 9:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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So i've recently made my first character in FFXIV and while i am having fun i am also completely overwhelmed by how different this game is to the previous mmos i've played

So far i have been levelling up as a conjurer and botanist but if i am understanding the system correctly i can switch classes simply by equipping a new weapon?

Does this mean there is no need to have alts as i can cover all the roles i'd like in one character or are there benefits i miss out on by not having alts?

Also, i have been following the intro quest chains which has led me to the bearded rock camp thingy where i have done some leves. Will the intro quests eventually take me to other places or should i go and explore on my own to find them?

Should probably mention i started in the city by the ocean, i forget its name

Another thing, from what i gather the leves reset every 36 hours. Does that limit apply across all classes or do i get 8 battle leves for each class?

Sorry for all the stupid questions but i have tried reading the lodestone and on these forums but it is just so different from my previous mmos so any help would be much appriciated

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#2 Jan 23 2011 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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So far i have been levelling up as a conjurer and botanist but if i am understanding the system correctly i can switch classes simply by equipping a new weapon?


Yes, just purchase it and off you go.

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Does this mean there is no need to have alts as i can cover all the roles i'd like in one character or are there benefits i miss out on by not having alts?


No, only 'benefit' to alts is extra Retainers and Anima mules, IMO.

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Also, i have been following the intro quest chains which has led me to the bearded rock camp thingy where i have done some leves. Will the intro quests eventually take me to other places or should i go and explore on my own to find them?


Yes, the Intro will take you to new places, but exploring is half the fun.

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Another thing, from what i gather the leves reset every 36 hours. Does that limit apply across all classes or do i get 8 battle leves for each class?


It is eight for both Regional Leves (Battlecraft/Fieldcraft/Faction) and eight for Local Leves (Crafting) until the next Reset. To be honest though, I wish Battlecraft and Fieldcraft wern't together.
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#3 Jan 23 2011 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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So far i have been levelling up as a conjurer and botanist but if i am understanding the system correctly i can switch classes simply by equipping a new weapon?

Does this mean there is no need to have alts as i can cover all the roles i'd like in one character or are there benefits i miss out on by not having alts?



Correct, one character can level all classes simply by equipping the desired class's weapon.


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Also, i have been following the intro quest chains which has led me to the bearded rock camp thingy where i have done some leves. Will the intro quests eventually take me to other places or should i go and explore on my own to find them?


Another thing, from what i gather the leves reset every 36 hours. Does that limit apply across all classes or do i get 8 battle leves for each class?


The main story quests will take you to various places, but it's up to you to explore the land surrounding the city-state of Limsa Lominsa known as La Noesca. A good way to get a little direction is to pick up some leves for the vendors in the Adventurer's Guild.

Piralnaut will give you Regional leves called Battlecraft and Fieldcraft for your Disciples of War and Magic and Disciples of the Land respectively. T'mokkri
will give you local leves for your Disciples of the Hand, which essentiall are the crafting classes.

The 36-hour window is all-inclusive. You get 8 regional and 8 local, for a total of 16, to use however you like. However, the maximum is 8 no matter which class or city-state you receive them from.


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Sorry for all the stupid questions but i have tried reading the lodestone and on these forums but it is just so different from my previous mmos so any help would be much appriciated


No such thing as a stupid question. Only way to know is to ask. If you're still confused on some of the basics, try reading through this guide.



Edited, Jan 23rd 2011 11:04am by Sephrick
#4 Jan 23 2011 at 10:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Alright, thank you very much, really helped me out:)

The idea of switching class just by equipping an item is just awesome for an altaholic like me
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#5 Jan 23 2011 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
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So i've recently made my first character in FFXIV and while i am having fun i am also completely overwhelmed by how different this game is to the previous mmos i've played

So far i have been levelling up as a conjurer and botanist but if i am understanding the system correctly i can switch classes simply by equipping a new weapon?

Does this mean there is no need to have alts as i can cover all the roles i'd like in one character or are there benefits i miss out on by not having alts?


The benefit of an alt right now is extra space and more retainers if you want them right now. They're free at the moment, so there isn't really a downside. It's made so you can cover all roles with one character, but with the way they made point reallocation, you can't really "optimize" your stats if you're doing multiple jobs from different disciplines.

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Also, i have been following the intro quest chains which has led me to the bearded rock camp thingy where i have done some leves. Will the intro quests eventually take me to other places or should i go and explore on my own to find them?


At first Bearded Rock is fine, but you'll need to travel to the other camps for higher rank levequests. You can also take the ship out of Limsa Lominsa to Thanalan and walk to Uldah for more quests. They're all listed on your map, so it's easy to find them.

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Should probably mention i started in the city by the ocean, i forget its name

Another thing, from what i gather the leves reset every 36 hours. Does that limit apply across all classes or do i get 8 battle leves for each class?


You can get 8 from the battle quests and gathering quests(8 shared between the two) along with 8 from the crafting quests. Also it's not just that they reset every 36 hours, it's a set 36 hours for everyone. To make it clear, you can look at the top of ZAMs page and find a countdown. LEVE RESET IN: XX:XX:XX
#6 Jan 23 2011 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I hope you have the patience to stick around for maybe 3 more weeks and we will be getting some more juicy stuff, and possibly a population boom again.

My best advice is to go out of your way to chat with others. Visit the official Lodestone, it has a great deal of information there.

There are a lot of mechanics that are misunderstood and are bound to change in this game. Just remember, no matter what anyone says, if you don't want to level up crafting or gathering or whatever, you don't have to. There are plenty of people around to repair your stuff if you put it up in your bazaar.

I'm curious on how you feel about this game since its so different from other MMOs? Is it more interesting or immersive? I'm surprised constantly by the ongoing curiousity of people outside of the FFXI vets. It seems like people are genuinely interested if they aren't jaded or closed minded.
#7 Jan 23 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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Oh very clever with the reset time, thanks for pointing me to it:)

So far i love this game. To me it reminds me of the first i ever tried a mmo, taking small steps into an entirely unknown world. Coming from wow, lotro, eq2 and CoH so many things are done differently here which is what i am looking for

I love how it takes time to do things, how big the world feels and the slower, more tactical feel to the combat. I came to FFXIV looking for depth, not so much in terms of number of quests or instances, but more in regards to crafting and skills and so far i have found what i am looking for and i do plan to be around to see the continous effort from SE to improve the game even further:)

Regarding linkshells, how should i go about finding one?
The general chat is very quiet and from what i gather that is because people are talking in linkshells instead but so far i haven't seen anyone recruiting in game and i would very much like to join one
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#8 Jan 23 2011 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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For joining a linkshell, you have a couple of choices. You can make one yourself. It doesn't cost anything and start shouting and annoying people. You will find people who want to be saved from their dying linkshells. When you get up to a high enough level, you can participate in Behest and hang out with a bunch of other people there and ask for a linkshell. You can go post a blog or search for a blog on the Lodestone about linkshell recruitment. There's plenty of ways of doing it, just got to be creative.

Glad to hear that you like the general pacing and feel of the world and it's mechanics. Hopefully in the coming months the updates do not take away from the general unique feel of this world. If you happen to be burnt out on FFXIV, you should try out FFXI while you wait for FFXIV to be fleshed out more.

FFXIV is a deep game on its basic mechanics level and hopefully it stays that way.
#9 Jan 23 2011 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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if you want a linkshell immediately I would suggest going to the server forum and checking out the linkshell recruitment threads - or just posting that you are looking for a linkshell.
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#10 Jan 30 2011 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Armed with your great advice i have been exploring the country side, doing behests and crafting while trying out the various classes but i have another question

With most of my DoW and DoM classes at rank 10 and above i still only have access to battleleves in bearded rock and skull something camp which made me think if i should venture to the other starting areas so i could do more rank 10 leves?

Also, i assume there are starter quests in each area. Are these level dependant or can i still do them if i catch a boat out of limsa?

Thanks in advance:)
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#11 Jan 30 2011 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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The r20 leves are the ones where you should start condisering travel from town to town. I think you start gettin them around r13, which is attainable in one day. So instead of heading to the towns now, I'd make sure I had high enough to access the r20 camps, and your rewards will be much better. You'll get higher gil, possible guildmarks, and useful gear. Plus, you'll be using these camps alot, so you can make them your favorite locations to save on anima. Here is the circut I use that seems to be the best on anima (i've never had issues of running out.)

Start in Gridania, run/tele to Tranquil for r20 leves.
Tele to Ul Dah, run/tele to Horizon for r20 leves.
Follow the road west from Horizon a short way, to find a small town with a ferry. Take this ferry to L.L. instead to teleporting.
At L.L.grab your r20s, headto Bloodshore, then finally tele back to Gridania.

If you are really strapped for anima, you can run back to L.L. instead of heading to Gridania right away, and wait for the leves to reset there. The ferry seems to be the key in this circut, and the difference between your anima slowly depleating to 0 (which is hard to recover from) and maintaining/slowly gaining anima levels.
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#12 Jan 30 2011 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
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noraviak wrote:
Armed with your great advice i have been exploring the country side, doing behests and crafting while trying out the various classes but i have another question

With most of my DoW and DoM classes at rank 10 and above i still only have access to battleleves in bearded rock and skull something camp which made me think if i should venture to the other starting areas so i could do more rank 10 leves?

Also, i assume there are starter quests in each area. Are these level dependant or can i still do them if i catch a boat out of limsa?

Thanks in advance:)



You get only one starter Quest for the city you start in, you cannot do the ones in the other two cities. Yes you can do the R10 Leves in the other two cities, just know that some of the Camps in Black Shroud and Thanaian are a bit difficult to get to for low Ranks.
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#13 Jan 30 2011 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Great explanation, thank you!:)

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To both of you, last post snuck in while i was writing

Edited, Jan 30th 2011 8:32am by noraviak
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#14 Jan 30 2011 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Just out of curiosity, what server are you on? You could look at your server forum and see if there are any LS's looking to recruit. The best thing you can do is find yourself a good LS. Lots of people willing to help an LS mate out and perhaps will help with gathering gear for cheap.
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#15 Jan 30 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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swisa wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what server are you on? You could look at your server forum and see if there are any LS's looking to recruit. The best thing you can do is find yourself a good LS. Lots of people willing to help an LS mate out and perhaps will help with gathering gear for cheap.

Im on Cornelia. I do want to join a LS. I've tried sending tells to some officers whose names i got from the server forum here but haven't been able to get hold of any when they are online
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#16 Jan 30 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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hey novarick. what is your character's name so i can follow you on the lodestone
#17 Jan 30 2011 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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zhinse wrote:
hey novarick. what is your character's name so i can follow you on the lodestone

It's Miyali Segan:)
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#18 Jan 30 2011 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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This guy makes me wanna get on and play lol
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#19 Jan 30 2011 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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ok i followed you nora, you can follow me back on lodestone

Zhinse Sanwa.

on the lodestone you'll find an interesting community of bloggers and commenters. No official forums yet but they're coming. Abuse the lodestone.
#20 Jan 30 2011 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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zhinse wrote:
ok i followed you nora, you can follow me back on lodestone

Zhinse Sanwa.

on the lodestone you'll find an interesting community of bloggers and commenters. No official forums yet but they're coming. Abuse the lodestone.

I am now following you and i will certainly dig through the blogs and comments to find even more tips. Thank you:)
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