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#1 Jan 25 2011 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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From midnight on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 to 6:59 a.m. on Tuesday, February 15 (PST).

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#2 Jan 25 2011 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Meh, nothing special but at least something's happening.
Frankly I'm glad it's only food this time, we were getting a bit over-saturated with novelty gear in such short period of time.
#3 Jan 25 2011 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Meh, nothing special but at least something's happening.
Frankly I'm glad it's only food this time, we were getting a bit over-saturated with novelty gear in such short period of time.

No we weren't =_= if you consider an Christmas outfit which is a must, and one poor kabuto mask then I don't understand your meaning of over-saturation... cuss it's likely to my that thing like that should appear once each 5 years... which a special offer of getting Santa Suit every 6th year... Seriously chill out ;) It was Christmas, everyone wanted to look into the mood so it was good idea to give everyone theirs own suit :3

and Kabuto, that was only once time occasion so it really wasn't over-saturated...
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Wow.. really looks like they went all out on this one.... the event seems fairly familiar...

I suppose its at least humorous that they mention that in their own description... I'm thinking they can't figure out how to get the bells out of the game so they just keep spamming us with the exact some event.
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Each year, there are those who feel inclined to bring attention to the fact that these bells closely resemble those used during other festivals, such as the recent starlight celebration. It is unfortunate that these people must concentrate on the negative when the true meaning behind Valentione's Day is about expressing gratitude to a fellow friend or companion—something that should not require unnecessary displays of extravagance.


Haha! Good to see them have a crack at people whining about bells for every event ^ ^
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Each year, there are those who feel inclined to bring attention to the fact that these bells closely resemble those used during other festivals, such as the recent starlight celebration. It is unfortunate that these people must concentrate on the negative when the true meaning behind Valentione's Day is about expressing gratitude to a fellow friend or companion—something that should not require unnecessary displays of extravagance.


Haha! Good to see them have a crack at people whining about bells for every event ^ ^


Uh.

While not as extreme as my statement will make it seem, that's Square-Enix telling the customer that they are wrong.
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#8 Jan 25 2011 at 8:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow.. really looks like they went all out on this one.... the event seems fairly familiar...

I suppose its at least humorous that they mention that in their own description... I'm thinking they can't figure out how to get the bells out of the game so they just keep spamming us with the exact some event.


Or maybe they just have so many other things to do, like, say, fixing the game?

Game fixed > shiny events.
#9 Jan 25 2011 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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No we weren't =_= if you consider an Christmas outfit which is a must,[...]


I would say fixing the broken parts of the game is a "must" before a Christmas suit and Kabuto mask, but that's just me. It's amazing how simply giving someone a shiny to play with will distract them from a fundamentally flawed game experience and broken in-game systems and mechanics.

I don't think we've experienced an over saturation of novelty gear, but when viewed in light of the current state of XIV, it seems to be a bit superfluous. (word of the day, use it liberally and improperly!). Yoshi has an ambitious punch list of sweeping changes and fixes planned for the game. Meanwhile, some a$$hole at SE is cranking out novelty items, making up stupid fake holidays that only Japanese cosplay furries care about, and nerfing fishing leve SP.

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#11 Jan 25 2011 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
Am I the only one who sort of feels this event is more half-assed then real thought put into it? I do find it amusing they sort of make fun of the whole thought behind Valentine's Day (Really, these days it's not as much as "I love you" but rather more about spending as much as you can.) with the Culinarian's Guild bit and those bells, but really... I had hoped for a little more creativity. Toss in some quests like trying to deliver pieces of chocolate to different people on the side! Only ones who benefit from this event and maybe even remotely do, are Culinarians. Yes, I'm a CUL myself so I can make these. Why am I griping? Because the event just feels... rehashed.

EDIT: I know game fixes are important but so is content, suppose I just hoped they'd add a little more in with this event.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 6:50am by SamusKnight
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#12 Jan 25 2011 at 8:51 AM Rating: Default
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Sir SamusKnight wrote:
Am I the only one who sort of feels this event is more half-assed then real thought put into it? I do find it amusing they sort of make fun of the whole thought behind Valentine's Day (Really, these days it's not as much as "I love you" but rather more about spending as much as you can.) with the Culinarian's Guild bit and those bells, but really... I had hoped for a little more creativity. Toss in some quests like trying to deliver pieces of chocolate to different people on the side! Only ones who benefit from this event and maybe even remotely do, are Culinarians. Yes, I'm a CUL myself so I can make these. Why am I griping? Because the event just feels... rehashed.

EDIT: I know game fixes are important but so is content, suppose I just hoped they'd add a little more in with this event.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 6:50am by SamusKnight


They're not going to throw in quests because if XI was any example, it's just grounds for people to ***** about "Make it more simple" like they do with every event and why the fun events (The level 1 dungeon crawling from 2003 for example) vanished. They could have been more creative but I'm pretty sure they'd rather focus on what matters most to the majority of players.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 6:54am by Theonehio
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Am I the only one who sort of feels this event is more half-assed then real thought put into it? I do find it amusing they sort of make fun of the whole thought behind Valentine's Day (Really, these days it's not as much as "I love you" but rather more about spending as much as you can.) with the Culinarian's Guild bit and those bells, but really... I had hoped for a little more creativity. Toss in some quests like trying to deliver pieces of chocolate to different people on the side! Only ones who benefit from this event and maybe even remotely do, are Culinarians. Yes, I'm a CUL myself so I can make these. Why am I griping? Because the event just feels... rehashed.

EDIT: I know game fixes are important but so is content, suppose I just hoped they'd add a little more in with this event.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 6:50am by SamusKnight


I might be wrong but I would think that this and previous events were started by the old production team and as such have been "half ready" for some time, as such this team will put them in place in addition to doing thir own changes to the game!
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Compared to most popular Eorzean festivals, Valentione's Day can seem fairly low-key. While some celebrations feature city-wide parades, lavish decorations, and various other manners of bacchanalian revelry, Valentione's Day is truly more about an individual's quest

Whatever helps you sleep at night, developers.

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Fears of rejection? "His?" This game makes WoW players look like varsity quarterbacks.

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It is for this reason the realm does not see any dramatic changes for the duration of the festivities.

I thought it was cuz you sucked at life.

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This, however, does not mean people are on their own in preparing for the holiday. City-states provide free portions of powdered sugar—a rare sweetener imported from far-away lands to the south, and usually only reserved for the noble classes—with which Valentione chocolates are created. To receive a pinch, citizens need only ring one of the many special bells erected in convenient locations within Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah.

The holiday event = ring another holiday event's bell and get sugar? Why even bother having an event? This is the most embarrassing thing I've seen in an MMO.

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Each year, there are those who feel inclined to bring attention to the fact that these bells closely resemble those used during other festivals, such as the recent starlight celebration. It is unfortunate that these people must concentrate on the negative when the true meaning behind Valentione's Day is about expressing gratitude to a fellow friend or companion—something that should not require unnecessary displays of extravagance.

Correction: THIS is the most embarrassing thing I've seen in an MMO.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 9:55am by yfaithfully
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#15 Jan 25 2011 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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They're not going to throw in quests because if XI was any example, it's just grounds for people to ***** about "Make it more simple" like they do with every event and why the fun events (The level 1 dungeon crawling from 2003 for example) vanished. They could have been more creative but I'm pretty sure they'd rather focus on what matters most to the majority of players.

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 6:54am by Theonehio


I really miss those dungeon crawls. Pain in the **** yet they were interesting and fun. FFXI had its share of boring events Blazin' Buffalos I think was one... But they had several entertaining ones too! I recall at times just running around to collect some of the novelty items back then, and enjoying the festivities. But from what it looks like here, they're just gonna put up the bells, you collect powdered sugar (Which really, most will probably throw away or sell.) and that's it. I can pass up big goodies and prizes, it's just a little more feeling behind the story I was hoping for, maybe something a little more interactive than just "examine this, get sugar".

FFXIV lacks a good deal of lore in some areas, they had a chance to make it feel a little more interesting or provide some lore yet didn't. For example:

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Currently observed throughout Eorzea, Valentione's Day was originally established to pay tribute to Countess Arabelle de Valentione of Ishgard—a remarkable woman who exhibited unparalleled courage in her quest for true love.


Okay, I get she exhibited unparalleled courage... But how? How did she achieve it, and why does all of Eorzea find it a requirement that they must observe it? An example of a "quest" they could have even used is an reenactment of maybe one of her courageous battles or something... Add in some temporary NPCs (Or add in dialect of others.) that involve telling her escapades and her valiant struggle, something to explain it. They've already added in a form of trading for items to NPCs (Starlight was proof with Twinkleboxes) so how come we can't have where NPC A gives a key item for the player to deliver to NPC B? The shy Elezen in Gridania has her hearts set on a valiant Highlander in Limsa Lominsa. She asks the player to deliver her gift and a note of love. You do so and in return, are given a "gift" of your own to give to someone you love or treasure as a companion.

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#16 Jan 25 2011 at 9:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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/sh LOOKING FOR A E I O U EEGS!!!!1

best event evar.

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So much hate for a simple event. It's likely that all of these events were developed a while ago, by the old development team. I'd rather have them go ahead with the events they already had planned, they'll probably change it next year when the development team actually has time on their hands.

I understand that a lot of this game is fundamentally flawed, but really? Going to complain about a Valentine's Day event?

Edited, Jan 25th 2011 7:23am by UltKnightGrover
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#18 Jan 25 2011 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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So does this mean they forgot all about Groundhogs day?? I was really looking forward to that event :(
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I understand that a lot of this game is fundamentally flawed, but really? Going to complain about a Valentine's Day event?

Valentione's Day Event.
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UltKnightGrover wrote:
I understand that a lot of this game is fundamentally flawed, but really? Going to complain about a Valentine's Day event?

Valentione's Day Event.


It's a Valentine's day event in the end.
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I guess I'm more from a perspective of "Do it WELL, or don't do it AT ALL"

I loved the FFXI easter egg event... It was still only "collect and trade" but it was interactive and engaging...

The past 3 events could not be more boring/uneventful if they tried.... At least have us travel somewhere.. or talk to someone.... there isn't even a dialogue box.. you just GET the items..... /sigh

and inb4: If they do stuff for the event then they are taking away from the CONTENT!
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If they do stuff for the event then they are taking away from the CONTENT!


So do they have a Seasonal Event-squad that is only hired to design these events, then fired until next year?
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It would appear that this event serves two purposes. Something fun for people to do if (and notice the keyword if, to those who are complaining that SE has introduced something to do) you want to. Otherwise, not take time from current development efforts.

By recycling the current event quest, they are able to have someway of giving people something for the time of year without wasting development time on making it new and creative. They have their priorities, but do not want to give us the impression that money is their only motivator (hence the letter from the producer earlier). They are in it to have fun as well, and while right now, it's not as fun as it could be (and could be arguably not fun), they are really doing their best. While I am still patiently skeptical at this point, I congratulate them on their effort.
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I guess I'm more from a perspective of "Do it WELL, or don't do it AT ALL"

I loved the FFXI easter egg event... It was still only "collect and trade" but it was interactive and engaging...

The past 3 events could not be more boring/uneventful if they tried.... At least have us travel somewhere.. or talk to someone.... there isn't even a dialogue box.. you just GET the items..... /sigh

and inb4: If they do stuff for the event then they are taking away from the CONTENT!


It just seems that people are complaining for the sake of complaining. We have a version update with lots of fleshed out content already being planned for mid-February. No one is putting a gun to your head saying that you need to do this specific event, but I do commend them for still going through the event as it makes the wait for the February update a least a little more bearable.
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Am I the only one who thinks they put more effort into the coat of arms and background story than the actual event?
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We have a version update with lots of fleshed out content already being planned for mid-February.


Well, it was called a "small-scale" update by the direktör... so let's not get too excited here, lol.
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Dammed if they do nothing dammed if they do!

Once again I would like to put out there the outlandish supposition that this event had already been set up, programed and tested by the old team.

Istead of spending time improving this as oposed to more important things the current team just released it (at least we get something new to do) as it is, if you dont want to do it then great, it's not mandatory!

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Am I the only one who thinks they put more effort into the coat of arms and background story than the actual event?
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Probably, since I can guarantee the art person had little to do with the in-game event outside of maybe textures.
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Am I the only one who sort of feels this event is more half-assed then real thought put into it? ...I had hoped for a little more creativity. Toss in some quests like trying to deliver pieces of chocolate to different people on the side!


I don't see what seems lazy or uncreative about an event that involves clicking a bell once every few hours to get [insert festive item].

Did they even bother to recolor the bells this time? It doesn't look like it... >_>
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Each year, there are those who feel inclined to bring attention to the fact that these bells closely resemble those used during other festivals, such as the recent starlight celebration. It is unfortunate that these people must concentrate on the negative when the true meaning behind Valentione's Day is about expressing gratitude to a fellow friend or companion—something that should not require unnecessary displays of extravagance.
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Probably, since I can guarantee the art person had little to do with the in-game event outside of maybe textures.

Are there too many graphic designers in Japan, and not enough programmers? FFXIV has amazing art and decent writing and a whole lot of creativity, something sorely lacking in many games. The programming, however, is utterly dreadful.

If I ran a video game company, I'd be headhunting the art staff at SE. They can't be too optimistic about the future of the company and they could bring a lot to a competent game studio.
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Each year, there are those who feel inclined to bring attention to the fact that these bells closely resemble those used during other festivals, such as the recent starlight celebration. It is unfortunate that these people must concentrate on the negative when the true meaning behind Valentione's Day is about expressing gratitude to a fellow friend or companion—something that should not require unnecessary displays of extravagance.


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They don't care. Western games are made by engineers, while Japanese games are made by artists. Visually superior, technically inferior (lolJapanesePCgaming).
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#34 Jan 25 2011 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
Hmm, there may be a hint of something to come that people are forgetting:

(normally when SE bury something at the bottom of a post, take notice :p )

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* House Valentione Coat-of-Arms

"Courage Begets Love"
The heart-shaped escutcheon used in her house's coat-of-arms was added after the death of Countess Arabelle, in remembrance of the similarly shaped shield she oft carried into battle.

As Valentione's Day became more popular, the story of Countess Arabelle and her crimson shield became more and more widespread, in turn, transforming the shield into a symbol of fortune and happiness. Two centuries ago, the Culinarians' Guild was finally successful in obtaining permission from the House Valentione to use a representation of the coat-of-arms on their festive chocolates.


It is entirely possible that when they introduce quests sometime after February, a quest to get Arabelle's Shield will be implemented. Hopes, but you know...


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So much hate for a simple event. It's likely that all of these events were developed a while ago, by the old development team. I'd rather have them go ahead with the events they already had planned, they'll probably change it next year when the development team actually has time on their hands.

I understand that a lot of this game is fundamentally flawed, but really? Going to complain about a Valentine's Day event?


Ok but let's be honest here. Think about all the events so far. Let's look at how they are constructed:

** RING BELL

** GET STUFF

** CRAFT

** REPEAT

Basically these events typify the exact reasons why FFXIV sucks at the moment. Its a whole lot of repeat step 1-4 and repeat again for the next leve, craft, etc.
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So much hate for a simple event. It's likely that all of these events were developed a while ago, by the old development team. I'd rather have them go ahead with the events they already had planned, they'll probably change it next year when the development team actually has time on their hands.

I understand that a lot of this game is fundamentally flawed, but really? Going to complain about a Valentine's Day event?


Ok but let's be honest here. Think about all the events so far. Let's look at how they are constructed:

** RING BELL

** GET STUFF

** CRAFT

** REPEAT

Basically these events typify the exact reasons why FFXIV sucks at the moment. Its a whole lot of repeat step 1-4 and repeat again for the next leve, craft, etc.


It's kinda like how a lot of FFXI events you dealt with moogles for step one, which you then proceed to the next step, i.e getting a buffalo nose rammed up your *** and ending up halfway across the world and rinse and repeat till you're satisfied. The events in XI just had more to do with the next repetitious steps.
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We should get an event that celebrates the actual bells we've all been ringing for the, now, three events :P Bell-day all the way!
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At least it's not a rank 50 bleeding heart that lurks outside of towns that we have to attack till chocolates drop out of it. Thanks for the info and where's the Holiday Luuuuv.

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It's amazing how one little thread about a valentines day event can still be a mud-slinging contest with the devs as the targets. Honestly, when are people going to just enjoy something for what it is rather than pick it apart like a swarm of starving piranha?

They're busy. We know they're busy because we've seen their schedule, their plans for continued updates to the core mechanics of the game and we know how far into it they are. Are you guys really going to begrudge them for working hard on getting the bugs fixed that we asked for just because the valentines day event doesn't have hearts everywhere or a weird chocolate-trading minigame?

Given the time they need to make FFXIV into what we all want, im certain the events will follow to the standard we've come to expect. But, as they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. A lot of work goes into a game like this, and it's more than a little irksome to see every little bit of cheer and goodwill plagued by constant flame posts. Lighten up guys.
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If anyone on rab wants some bubble chocolate to make the hearts let me know - I will make it for you at cost. I can also make the hearts but the SP will be crap.
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We should just be happy they bothered to give us a Valentine's event at all.
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We should just be happy to take what ever SE gives us.... yup... thats it.
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We should just be happy to take what ever SE gives us.... yup... thats it.


Its kind of sad that its come to something like that, where people think that getting "something" even though its copy paste crap, has much worth, like SE is our parents and we are lucky to get a half a sandwich for lunch.

This is a product someone sold you and they give you more half assed crap, you should be ******* not just accepting it.
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They could have at least got the guy who wrote This one the come and help out with the event write up.

Should be interesting to see if they also copy non-observational events too, like the samurai one and the bufallo one...

But yeah, at the moment Playonline > Lodestone in terms of event write ups
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That or maybe some have more important things to be worried or ****** about, and they are content to play and have fun with what is given while waiting for things to get better.

Or yeah, you can spout complaints and rants on a video game forum incessantly.
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I'm willing to bet that if this event was extremely complex with quests, NPCs, stories, etc. the exact same people who are whining here would be whining that SE is wasting time with temporary fluff content and should be working on fixing the game's core problems.

If I had to choose between a half-assed Valentione's day event or a half-assed (or delayed) core content update, guess which one I'd pick.

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I'm willing to bet that if this event was extremely complex with quests, NPCs, stories, etc. the exact same people who are whining here would be whining that SE is wasting time with temporary fluff content and should be working on fixing the game's core problems.


Actually I'm willing to bet they wont. Since there isn't anything else to do everyone would clamor to it, as a matter of fact, people in the post are clammoring about how great this event it..... YAY SE MOAR COWBELLS!

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Why can't the developers do both - holidays _and_ core content?

Holidays are a big part of MMOs, and they mostly get recycled every year, so this isn't a one time thing.

The more I watch the forums and updates, the more I'm convinced they're not putting nearly as much effort into improving FFXIV as most of you think. I think the big developer swap was a net loss - they put in a B-team to save money who aren't putting out the updates that the A-team was doing before the change in leadership.

You don't throw good money after bad, and they're not gonna invest a lot of resources in a game that won Worst Game of the Year. That's bad management.

This - the lamest holiday event ever with the most ridiculous announcement ever - seems to be evidence that they're not taking this title seriously any more.
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#49 Jan 25 2011 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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yfaithfully wrote:
Why can't the developers do both - holidays _and_ core content?


Because they're REALLY behind. They had to choose one or the other.
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#50 Jan 25 2011 at 3:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not that excited... call me sophomoric but I like shiny things... who doesn't? I, for one, really liked the dungeon crawls. yes they were long and potentially boring but that made the reward worth it. Do you know what it takes to get the equipment from recent events? A guildleve. Finish a guildleve and go walk around the market wards for a few minutes until you find one for sale. I'm waiting for equipment that rewards you for something other than having a lot of gil.
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