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#1 Jan 25 2011 at 10:40 PM Rating: Good
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I just wanted to share an observation of mine. The other night I was pumping out dozens of bronze visors on my armorer. I was basically asleep doing this, and woke up with about 100 crafted. The next day, four levels higher and actually paying attention to what I was doing and using abilities, I had roughly a 75% fail rate. When I was trying to figure out what was wrong, I noticed it was raining when I was trying to craft. From what I found on this site, the elemental affinity of Armorer is earth, which is supposidle erroded by water. I came to the conclusion that since the weather was water, it had a negative effect on my earthbased crafting. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Has anyone noticed the weather having any effect on HQing items similar to XI?
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#2 Jan 26 2011 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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You arent the first person I have seen bring this up, I think you might be right and there may be something to this.
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#3 Jan 26 2011 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
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it could also be the fact that because it was raining the graphics made it harder for you to see what you were doing.
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#4 Jan 26 2011 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Seeing how many things had an effect on crafting in FFXI I also think it's possible that weather has an effect on your synthesis in XIV.
Nobody can say for sure how moon phases, weather, elemental day and hour,... effect synthesis yet. The only thing we can be sure about is that these things DO have some effect.
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#5 Jan 26 2011 at 5:13 AM Rating: Good
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SE in one of their Ask the Developers or whatever it was said that Weaving when it is Windy would be bad, so yes the Weather will affect the Crafting.
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#6 Jan 26 2011 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I wait until the weather ends before I craft.
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#7 Jan 26 2011 at 6:58 AM Rating: Good
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Another logical point it that making things while having the materials constantly barraged by liquids that are not meant to hit them is counterproductive to the production of just about any given item.
#8 Jan 26 2011 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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So has anyone noticed this with other crafting classes, or just armorer because its earth based? I forget which craft is water based, but does anyone know if the rain gives a bonus to that class?
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#9 Jan 26 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Uryuu wrote:
Another logical point it that making things while having the materials constantly barraged by liquids that are not meant to hit them is counterproductive to the production of just about any given item.


This is a very logical point. I really can't think of many things that benefit from being rained on during their production.
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#10 Jan 26 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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I really can't think of many things that benefit from being rained on during their production.

Maybe a veggie garden?

Edited, Jan 26th 2011 10:14am by tmproff
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#11 Jan 26 2011 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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tmproff wrote:
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I really can't think of many things that benefit from being rained on during their production.

Maybe a veggie garden?

Edited, Jan 26th 2011 10:14am by tmproff



Well played, sir.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
Uryuu wrote:
Another logical point it that making things while having the materials constantly barraged by liquids that are not meant to hit them is counterproductive to the production of just about any given item.


This is a very logical point. I really can't think of many things that benefit from being rained on during their production.


Gem cutting, or blacksmithing when you sharpen the blade.
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#13 Jan 26 2011 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I was a level 100 woodworker in 11 with all my subcrafts 50-60, and with that said, I know all the random stuff people were coming out with. I pretty much held on to the following that effected crafting in 11:

Moon Phase, Day of the week, and level in relation to the recipe. (meaning the HQ tiers being 11, 31, and 51 over reciple are absolutely true)

Now with that said there have been scores of other theories through the years, like weather, gear, what direction you are facing, etc. etc. etc. Those theories came and went, and I don't buy into them at all.

Now I realize this is a new game with different algorithms for crafting. Is anything possible? Yes. However for now until I see some extensive testing I'm going to stick to just focusing on the level of my craft in relation to the leve level, and the bonuses gear gives. Crafting after it is all said and done is random. It's easy to catch lightning in a bottle, but the law of averages wins out in the end.

Disclaimer: I don't want to discourage you from experimenting. For all I know weather could very well be part of crating in this game, it is supposed to be more advanced afterall.
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#14 Jan 26 2011 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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@ Khornette
In most gem sawing, a thin circular blade usually composed of steel, copper, or a phosphor bronze alloy impregnated along the outer edge with diamond grit and rotating at several thousand surface feet per minute literally scratches its way through a gemstone. A liquid such as oil or water is used to wash away cutting debris and keep the stone and the saw blade from overheating, which could cause damage to both the stone and the sawblade. - Credit goes to tradeshop.com

Controlled amounts of water, not a torrential downpour <.< If you're already using oil, it would actually harm rather than help.

If we used grinders to sharpen our blades, we might need water, however as I stated, you would want a controlled amount, preferably not moving. Same when forging steel. To cool it down, you dip it in a huge tub of water. You don't spray it with mother nature's tears. =p

Edited, Jan 26th 2011 5:06pm by Uryuu
#15 Jan 26 2011 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
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♪I'm craaaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪Just craaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪What a gloooorious feeeelin'♪
♪I'm craaaaaaafting again♪

Sorry, nothing constructive to add.
#16 Jan 26 2011 at 11:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm laughing at the sparks~
So bright from up above~
The synth is in my heart~
And I'm ready for love~



I apologize for the abrupt breaking into song. Couldn't resist <.<





Edited, Jan 26th 2011 11:08pm by Uryuu
#17 Jan 26 2011 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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Klarus wrote:
♪I'm craaaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪Just craaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪What a gloooorious feeeelin'♪
♪I'm craaaaaaafting again♪

Sorry, nothing constructive to add.


Uryuu wrote:


I apologize for the abrupt breaking into song. Couldn't resist <.<



You ain't the only one

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I'm craaaaafting in the raiiiin,
Just craaaafting in the raiiiin,
What a gloooorious feeeelin'
I'm craaaaaaafting again

I've stocked up on shards
Found my spot under a tree
I've donned my crafting gear
And I'm ready for SP

Let the instability chase
Everyone from the place
Come on with the rain
I've a mask to protect my face

Rank 50 I will attain
Through busts, and breaks and pain.
Just craaaaafting,
I'm craaaaafting in the raiiiin,
#18 Jan 27 2011 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
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If it is truwe, maybe SE will tweak the rules so we are not effected by rain if we are under the little tents found at camp.
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#19 Jan 27 2011 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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tmproff wrote:
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I really can't think of many things that benefit from being rained on during their production.

Maybe a veggie garden?

Edited, Jan 26th 2011 10:14am by tmproff


Veggie Gardens get you banned in FFXI!

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#20 Jan 27 2011 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
Klarus wrote:
♪I'm craaaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪Just craaaafting in the raiiiin,♪
♪What a gloooorious feeeelin'♪
♪I'm craaaaaaafting again♪

Sorry, nothing constructive to add.


Uryuu wrote:
I'm laughing at the sparks~
So bright from up above~
The synth is in my heart~
And I'm ready for love~

Well Played, did chuckle a little now I wanna go listen to some Sinatra.
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#21 Jan 30 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I have just had some recent experiences that I thought I would share. I genereally have not used Hastey Hands too much (maybe about 200 times) so I am not 100% sure of its dynamics. In my short time using this, I was under the impression a fail = 50% durability loss, always leaving me with a number like 53 or 58 upon failure.

Well I was pumping off some low level Alchemy this time, outside of town because I like things quite and don't want people nosing into my work. As before, I was basically not paying attention too much as my main attention was outside of the game. All of a sudden, not only did my Hastey Hands begin to fail (rare, as I've said it was very low level) but Hastey Hands also started breaking my synth - thats right 100% durability loss. I looked up to see what was wrong, and sure enough, it was raining. My tool was slightly damaged (45%ish) so maybe that was a factor - but I have never before seen Haste Hands have 100% durability loss. Not all of the fails would break, but enough of them to make me questions this. I have since been testing this with a repaired tool, but consequently, have not broken any yet, and it stopped raining :S. I am now suspecting that adverse weather (rain) adds a chance to double durability loss. Also, because i broke enough in a row to demand my focus, perhaps it has a chance to doubles failure rate as well. If this holds true, I would suspect it would also chance elemental stability loss and sparks as well.

Maybe someone more experienced with Hasty Hands can shed some light. Do 100% breaks happen randomly with Hasty Hands at the best of times? Or did my slightly damaged tool cause this? From what I have read on forums, damage is almost negligible these days unless in the red.
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