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#1 Jan 26 2011 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
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A question... more out of interest than anything...

Who here actually has just good things to say about this game? I really don't see why people are complaining, this is obviously a new game, fair enough it has been a few months but let's be honest, we have seen changes and any mmorpg fan would know that its fairly uncommon to jump into a brand new game and expect everything to be perfect.

You do realize if you search for 2 minutes that prior to the games release forums were packed with people begging for the game to be released, people whining "Oh!, I'd give anything to just play for 5 minutes, This game looks so EPIC!" Think about it like this if you will.

Either you get what we have now, access to game which is free to play, or we wait... and who knows how long we would have to wait. I'd say we count ourselves lucky, we have a head-start in the game, we get to witness the changes to our new home away from home, we can say we were there, establish friendships, plan ahead of what's to come. We have so much to be thankful for if you look past the lack of what we think we need.

Honestly, I understand why people do complain, we all have our own experiences on what makes an mmorpg, no one opinion will be accepted by all. I accept I will get negative comments, thats fine, I would just like to see a thread I can come to and see posts on positive opinions.

So show some support people, post your experiences, lol moments, what you love about this game, if SE ever did perhaps venture past this thread, let's show them that yeah they could have done better but they have our support and we know things can only get better from here.
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#2 Jan 26 2011 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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A question... more out of interest than anything...

Who here actually has just good things to say about this game? I really don't see why people are complaining, this is obviously a new game, fair enough it has been a few months but let's be honest, we have seen changes and any mmorpg fan would know that its fairly uncommon to jump into a brand new game and expect everything to be perfect.

You do realize if you search for 2 minutes that prior to the games release forums were packed with people begging for the game to be released, people whining "Oh!, I'd give anything to just play for 5 minutes, This game looks so EPIC!" Think about it like this if you will.

Either you get what we have now, access to game which is free to play, or we wait... and who knows how long we would have to wait. I'd say we count ourselves lucky, we have a head-start in the game, we get to witness the changes to our new home away from home, we can say we were there, establish friendships, plan ahead of what's to come. We have so much to be thankful for if you look past the lack of what we think we need. Honestly, I understand why people do complain, we all have our own experiences on what makes an mmorpg, no one opinion will be accepted by all. I accept I will get negative comments, thats fine, I would just like to see a thread I can come to and see posts on positive opinions.

So show some support people, post your experiences, lol moments, what you love about this game, if SE ever did perhaps venture past this thread, let's show them that yeah they could have done better but they have our support and we know things can only get better from here.


I started playing this game with real life friends. If the game would have postponed until say April or May while they add content and fun and user friendlyness my friends and I would start playing an awsome game together and would keep playing the game for years to come. Because the game was released when it was my real life friends quit playing a few weeks in and have zero interest in coming back.
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#3 Jan 26 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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I am enjoying myself, and I like the game as it is.

It could use some content, some changes, some tweaks and a few other things.

Yet I still find myself logging in to get 1 more level on something, or to try and get 300k more gil or something.

/shrug
#4 Jan 26 2011 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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It will get better. Yeah its not all bad and it has huge potential. My advice is simply play if you want to and make the game "fun" for yourself. Plenty to do in game just gotta know how to manage your activity. In the meantime if you find yourself wanting more and bored take a break and play something else until FFXIV is ready for you.

So far there is no money lost since we arent being charged for it anyway. Cant complain about the initial cost since you would have spent that anyway buying the game if it had been awesome. The game will be awesome eventually and it isnt as bad as folks make it seem. Thats not to say its not without its issues, but just that by now the whole planet knows these issues so its time to put them to rest.
#5 Jan 26 2011 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I am thoroughly enjoying the game. I never have enough time to do all my levequest and have never run out of anima. SE is in a damned if you do, damned if you don't position. Whe XI was released, America was complaining because Japan got a head start on everything. Now we got the simutaneous release, and SE was flammed for the game not being polished. Granted, it does need a bit of polishing, but you can't demand the UI be fixed first, and then complain that they did that before adding content. In XI the complaint was that the quests we had a launch were all 'talk to completely random characters with bad translations and hopefully piece together the quest.' Come on, how many people completed that quest about a 'Book of Love' by the AH without looking it up on the net for a walkthrough. I also find it funny that the list of demands from gamers have likely already been planned as sequential updates. Chocobos and Airships people; does everyone think we wouldn't get these without demanding them?

I have tried to make all of my posts constructive and positive, stating the direction I would personally like things to go. This is actually the only reason I made a Zam account, because SE is supposedly listening. Many of my suggestions have been met with blunt and closed minded 'No's with no explination from people who I can't for the life of me understand why they aren't playing WOW or Rift. I don't get these responses - are these people who played every MMO out there telling me what my own opinion is, and that my logic is failed because some niche MMO tried something similar and failed. Quit with the simple No responses people. If you don't like the game, don't play it. Stop complaining about anima and take the ferry to LL sometime.
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#6 Jan 26 2011 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I get ya , human nature is to complain loads about what we dont't have and what we want but because there is so many of us and different opinions on what we should have first its obvious regardless of what SE implement first , people who wanted something something else will find a way to make their voices heard.

You realize people that SE is going above and beyond to make this the game people want. Let's say we get an update which gives us an AH.... next thing people will complain it should have been chocobos because their Anima is always so low and they can make gil easily. Granted they are right in assuming so, like i mentioned we all have different ideas, and we all want different things, but I would say to these people that these things will be added, just in time.....I love using "IF" scenarios...

IF SE listened to us all and added everything as soon as possible.... there would most likely be bugs... hence more complaining.... they could also release everything at once in perfect condition but how long would we have to wait for that?!..... Patience is a Virtue.... one at a time, I guarantee you that people who will stick with this game will be happy that they stayed, and people who left complaining as they went out the door, will.... well..... either rightly so, come back and experience it as it should be.. .which is awesome.... or just kick themselves for being left behind.... in my opinion I am so glad i get to see the changes and enjoy forming bonds and planning ahead while I've got so much time to do as its f2p.

SE are trying to break away from traditional mmos, I say let them! It needs polished granted but it will be worth it in the end.

Are people really happy to play different mmorpgs with the same layouts as each other? I know alot of people are, but I personally would like to try something different, Xi did this for me as it was slow and turn based, party based etc, this for me was defining, and I know SE can do it again, 10 years from now this will be the game people talk about as they join a new mmo based on ideas from this game.

Sorry for being so optimistic....I grew up with FF and minus X-2 and slightly XIII I was always engrossed....granted they arn't as well known for mmos..... they did it once.... they can do it again
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How could you determinate if FFXIV is good or not? well you need to try it or at least research about it to determinate how much fun you can get from it, and then since your time isn't infinite you will need to compare the fun you get from FFXIV with other things that you can do with the same time, inevitably since you want to use that part of your free time to play an online game the first things you will compare FFXIV against will be other online games.

Long story short, you will find yourself pondering between FFXIV and other games in that category, if FFXIV is below the standard for said category, playing it will feel like a waste of time, hence people won't think that FFXIV is a good game.

We generally won't say good things about a game that doesn't qualify as good.

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#8 Jan 26 2011 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
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I play and have for years many different types of mmorpgs..... and to this day nothing has succeeded 11. I know there is probably tons people could suggest to me to try , and I probably have tried them all.

I can compare 14 to many games because I have played tons of different ones. Im really trying to stray away from negative comments so please be aware of this. Im simply saying in my own experience, people only regard current mmorpgs to the past mmorpgs, and while i applaud the "dont fix what isnt broken system" I commend 14 for bringing something new to the table. I say its worth the wait..... complain if you absolutely feel the need to....I respect opinions, but 5 years from now do you really want to be doing the same stuff? All we really get from that routine is better graphics and new quests......dated as it may as seem 11 set a whole new level for mmorpgs.

As such I would like to keep this a postive thread....what you love, what you lol'd at, what adventures you have had etc please respect that
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#9 Jan 26 2011 at 8:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have just started playing this week, and have to admit that i find myself logging out of the only other time sink that i've ever seriously played to play around with the much different mechanics and gameplay than I'm used to here in FFXIV. I can't nail down what draws me so much but something does. Nostalgia, maybe.. but not sure yet. :)

I can agree with the poster who said that playing the game throughout the introduction periods various bugs, nerfs, changes, and overhauls will tie you to the game more. It surely has in may case. I've played DDO since beta and am known as the tour guy in my guild because of my constant notations of changes to newer players or things that get me rambling for hours lol.

As I've stated before, this game has TONS of room to get only better and a team eager to turn a profit. I think just buckle up, it will be bumpy and fun! :)
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#10 Jan 26 2011 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Let's get things doing

What I love about 14 is regardless of current battle system, although I highly recommend changes, is the community. I am mainly speaking to XI players. We all got the feeling we were part of something more in XI. Perhaps just me but I mainly logged on to be with fellow linkshell members. Party based was so much fun for me.

I get that 14 has problems atm with this but I can wait, but in the meantime what I mean is so far I have had such a pleasure of meeting fellow players and forming friendships, discussing future plans, partying etc regardless.... its free! I make the most and the way things are going Yoshi seems to agree that party play is key.

I also enjoy story missions....granted after level 20 it is a pain, but is a delight to see every-time you achieve the extra levels.

Graphics are a no brainer.....

Mainly I love this game because limited as we are, users can if they try make their own fun...updates are coming and on a rgular basis....and hey! how can we complain when the FF fans know that top SE people have been assigned to 14....personally I can't wait to see the new battle system...FF12 guy has been brought in for 14....sweeeet...

So please...if you read this far....you have at least heard 3 times I want to keep it positive....please try....
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#11 Jan 26 2011 at 8:49 PM Rating: Default
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If this was a true Final Fantasy, it would not be using the same races as FF11.

When this game draws to a close, SE will stop the Final Fantasy franchise and will start a new series called Freshe Fantasy, where every class is a cook and you must make a cake.

Or die.
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#12 Jan 26 2011 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Agreed with Anthral......many stuff to be worked out but I do find myself logging in everyday....I think I am afraid t miss something....Who knows....
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#13 Jan 26 2011 at 9:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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StrayeXIV wrote:
I get ya , human nature is to complain loads about what we dont't have and what we want


I can't speak for everyone here, but mostly my nature is to complain when something I paid for doesn't meet my standard of quality.


StrayeXIV wrote:

You realize people that SE is going above and beyond to make this the game people want. Let's say we get an update which gives us an AH.... next thing people will complain it should have been chocobos because their Anima is always so low and they can make gil easily. Granted they are right in assuming so, like i mentioned we all have different ideas, and we all want different things, but I would say to these people that these things will be added, just in time.....I love using "IF" scenarios...


Which might be a good reason if they weren't a large group of paid professionals whose job it is to properly code and implement systems in video games. If a company as big as SE can't even allot enough personnel to fix more than one issue at a time then there's a serious problem with resource allocation in that company. Especially considering that the longer they take to bring the game to an acceptable standard, the more money they lose in potential revenue.

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I guarantee you that people who will stick with this game will be happy that they stayed


Reverse logic wins the day? I'm sorry but I was under the (clearly mistaken) impression that you should play videos games because you enjoy them, not until you enjoy them.

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I've got so much time to do as its f2p.


And yet still people are leaving. When you can't even convince people to do something for free then you have a problem.

StrayeXIV wrote:

SE are trying to break away from traditional mmos, I say let them! It needs polished granted but it will be worth it in the end.

Are people really happy to play different mmorpgs with the same layouts as each other? I know alot of people are, but I personally would like to try something different


To be entirely honest with you, if it's a choice between a copy/paste of another MMO that I enjoy or a revolutionary game that changes the way I define tedius, superfluous, soul-sucking game mechanics, I'll opt for the copy thanks.

Personally I love SE and the FF titles, which is why this game is SUCH a disappointment. That they ever thought the game (in it's current state) was worthy of being not only a FF title, but a numbered FF game, is appalling to me.

Edited, Jan 26th 2011 10:03pm by SickleSageKiroh
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#14 Jan 26 2011 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Given the supposed (I'm trying to be nice) success of FFXIII, and the extreme effort SE is putting into FFXIV, I highly doubt Final Fantasy is going away anytime soon.

There is no denying that FFXIV had a botched release. There is also no denying that even though the game is currently devoid of a monthly fee that people, even hardcore fans, are leaving, have left, or are just not playing.

Now I think there are, and I have expressed in the past, many good ideas here in the FFXIV world. This game has potential and SE did the smart thing by listening to the fans to hopefully build upon a good foundation.

In the end SE wants to make money, but in this day and age, especially in the dynamic interaction of fans and developers, these 'complainers' are the paying customers, and right now they out number the people who are currently enjoying the game.
#16 Jan 26 2011 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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DoctorMog wrote:
I am enjoying myself, and I like the game as it is.

It could use some content, some changes, some tweaks and a few other things.

Yet I still find myself logging in to get 1 more level on something, or to try and get 300k more gil or something.

/shrug


This is probably because you have nothing else to do in your life at the moment. If anyone has a hint of anything else that might be remotely enjoyable, they would flock over in a second. I played the game to 27 Archer and quit cuz it became way too routine and way too boring and honestly, although I keep checking back here to see the changes, I don't think I'll be coming back....although I probably will ; ;
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SolidMack wrote:
DoctorMog wrote:
I am enjoying myself, and I like the game as it is.

It could use some content, some changes, some tweaks and a few other things.

Yet I still find myself logging in to get 1 more level on something, or to try and get 300k more gil or something.

/shrug


This is probably because you have nothing else to do in your life at the moment. If anyone has a hint of anything else that might be remotely enjoyable, they would flock over in a second. I played the game to 27 Archer and quit cuz it became way too routine and way too boring and honestly, although I keep checking back here to see the changes, I don't think I'll be coming back....although I probably will ; ;



So because I am simply enjoying myself you feel the need to assume my life is boring and I have nothing better to do?

**** off.

I like the game, I have said it a million times, accept that.

Good day.
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DoctorMog wrote:
SolidMack wrote:
DoctorMog wrote:
I am enjoying myself, and I like the game as it is.

It could use some content, some changes, some tweaks and a few other things.

Yet I still find myself logging in to get 1 more level on something, or to try and get 300k more gil or something.

/shrug


This is probably because you have nothing else to do in your life at the moment. If anyone has a hint of anything else that might be remotely enjoyable, they would flock over in a second. I played the game to 27 Archer and quit cuz it became way too routine and way too boring and honestly, although I keep checking back here to see the changes, I don't think I'll be coming back....although I probably will ; ;



So because I am simply enjoying myself you feel the need to assume my life is boring and I have nothing better to do?

**** off.

I like the game, I have said it a million times, accept that.

Good day.


How would you otherwise find time to have almost 3 classes at rank 50 already and spend almost your entire time here? not the point anyway, I said what I said as politely as I could, I didn't call you a no-lifer, nothing, all I said was if you had something more interesting in your life you wouldn't be spending all your time on FFXIV.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:51am by SolidMack
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I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog
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DoctorMog wrote:
I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog


i work 48 hours a week, and raise a kid as a single father, and have a gf, and i still find time to play 80 hours a week, some of us are really into our hobbies :)
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Vedis wrote:
DoctorMog wrote:
I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog


i work 48 hours a week, and raise a kid as a single father, and have a gf, and i still find time to play 80 hours a week, some of us are really into our hobbies :)


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After the updates that Yoshi promised take place, this game will be tight.

For now I'm getting a head start. When I started playing FFXI in 2003/04 (can't remember), people would say things like "Man the cap was only 50" "Red mages used to suck" etc. The game was so good already, I couldn't really imagine it being as terrible as the picture original players painted for me. Hopefully in 6 months or so we'll all be telling new players how lucky they are having not had to level through fatigue on coblyns, only having 8 leves, repairing after only 1/2 a level, etc.

Either way, I like the game and my linkshell entertains me when the game doesn't.

* I guess I should mention as you can see in my sig, I don't play a whole lot. Perhaps that's why I'm not as irritated as some people anymore.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 1:25am by Transmigration
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#23 Jan 27 2011 at 12:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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It may be because Dr. Mog spends more time playing the game than on these forums bashing it. I enjoy it too and it doesnt take long to get ranks especially if you focus on one class at a time.
#24 Jan 27 2011 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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DoctorMog wrote:
I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog


i work 48 hours a week, and raise a kid as a single father, and have a gf, and i still find time to play 80 hours a week, some of us are really into our hobbies :)


2 days working.
3 days and 7 hours playing.

If you get 6 hours of sleep a night you are left with 6 hours of free time for your daughter and/or your GF.

like most gamers, you probobly would sacrifice sleep over anything so lets say 4 hours a night. that gives you an extra 28 hours!

so you play the game 80 hours a week and dont even give your own daughter KID half of that time?

nice.

edit: no idea why i originally typed daughter.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 1:35am by theSubligaravenger
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theSubligaravenger wrote:
Vedis wrote:
DoctorMog wrote:
I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog


i work 48 hours a week, and raise a kid as a single father, and have a gf, and i still find time to play 80 hours a week, some of us are really into our hobbies :)


2 days working.
3 days and 7 hours playing.

If you get 6 hours of sleep a night you are left with 6 hours of free time for your daughter and/or your GF.

like most gamers, you probobly would sacrifice sleep over anything so lets say 4 hours a night. that gives you an extra 28 hours!

so you play the game 80 hours a week and dont even give your own daughter KID half of that time?

nice.

edit: no idea why i originally typed daughter.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 1:35am by theSubligaravenger


Lmao!

I'm wondering wtf is he doing all that time in the game ? i mean is not like there is TONS to do anyways <.<
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theSubligaravenger wrote:
Vedis wrote:
DoctorMog wrote:
I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:56am by DoctorMog


i work 48 hours a week, and raise a kid as a single father, and have a gf, and i still find time to play 80 hours a week, some of us are really into our hobbies :)


2 days working.
3 days and 7 hours playing.

If you get 6 hours of sleep a night you are left with 6 hours of free time for your daughter and/or your GF.

like most gamers, you probobly would sacrifice sleep over anything so lets say 4 hours a night. that gives you an extra 28 hours!

so you play the game 80 hours a week and dont even give your own daughter KID half of that time?

nice.

edit: no idea why i originally typed daughter.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 1:35am by theSubligaravenger


i actualy can multitask to the point where i spend time with the kid and game at the same time
i see the gf once a week usualy, and 1 more time where she visits me at work(shes busy as **** too)
i also sleep alot at work and get away with it :)

theres a way to balance it, its just not healthy lol

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 12:04am by Vedis
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i actualy can multitask to the point where i spend time with the kid and game at the same time


Wow. I'm sure your kid will love you for being such a multitasking genius ^.-/
"My father had a total of 5.71 hours per day for me... and sleep/laundry/eating/girfriend".

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Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.


Thank you! Such statements make sure SE will continue to produce content-less games.


Edited, Jan 27th 2011 5:05am by Rinsui
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Come on now guys, there's no need to attack people just because you disagree with them. I'll be the first person to admit that if the game was even close to what I expected from it, I'd be playing easily 40+ hours a week.
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StrayeXIV wrote:
A question... more out of interest than anything...

Who here actually has just good things to say about this game? I really don't see why people are complaining, this is obviously a new game, fair enough it has been a few months but let's be honest, we have seen changes and any mmorpg fan would know that its fairly uncommon to jump into a brand new game and expect everything to be perfect.


There are good things to be said about the game. However, I want change. Telling SE what they've done well won't help fix things that are done poorly.

Yes, the game is new. But my personal expectations for games is that they be both fun and playable. FFXIV doesn't quite qualify as fun. Not yet anyway. SE needs to add enough content and streamline existing content before I'd call it "fun". FFXIV, when it was released, was nearly unplayable due to having a slow UI, no good way to sell/buy things, and a very bland set of jobs to choose from. A lot of that has been fixed or is being fixed, though.

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You do realize if you search for 2 minutes that prior to the games release forums were packed with people begging for the game to be released, people whining "Oh!, I'd give anything to just play for 5 minutes, This game looks so EPIC!" Think about it like this if you will.


Yes, some people say something like that about just about any game.

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Either you get what we have now, access to game which is free to play, or we wait... and who knows how long we would have to wait. I'd say we count ourselves lucky, we have a head-start in the game, we get to witness the changes to our new home away from home, we can say we were there, establish friendships, plan ahead of what's to come. We have so much to be thankful for if you look past the lack of what we think we need.


You know, would you "count yourself lucky" if your house burned down and you managed to save your couch? "Wohoo! Awesome, my house burned down, but I managed to save my couch! Best day ever!" Sure, its fine that you managed to save your couch, but you've got a lot of other stuff to worry about before any type of thankfulness comes up.

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Honestly, I understand why people do complain, we all have our own experiences on what makes an mmorpg, no one opinion will be accepted by all. I accept I will get negative comments, thats fine, I would just like to see a thread I can come to and see posts on positive opinions.


Give it six months. Either the game will be in a playable state with enough content to keep most people happy OR everyone who's hoping for change will have given up.

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So show some support people, post your experiences, lol moments, what you love about this game, if SE ever did perhaps venture past this thread, let's show them that yeah they could have done better but they have our support and we know things can only get better from here.


Sorry, I was more answering your questions from the first paragraph. If you want to like the game, go right ahead. You and others certainly seem to. And I suppose there are people that like cars with three wheels, a cracked windshield, and peeling paint. All I know is that if someone sold me a car like that, and I be really annoyed.
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#30 Jan 27 2011 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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No. The game sucks in its current state. I will complain until they get **** done and make this incomplete mess worth the $70 I paid for it.
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If I didn't like the game, I would have quit back in June when the game really had problems. What we have now is like night and day when compared to the beta version. The (seemingly hundreds of) little annoyances are gone, and SE is actually listening to and implementing customer feedback.

Honestly, at this point there's not much more we can reasonably ask for. SE has gone a long way in turning this game around, and they are definitely on the right track. Just have patience.
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#32 Jan 27 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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While I personally am unhappy with the game, and while I personally complain about it, I don't get why people who don't enjoy the game are in sheer disbelief that someone could.

Yes, some people are enjoying FFXIV. The problem is that this group is a small minority in comparison to people who don't like it, but just because I don't enjoy it doesn't mean they don't.

I mean, ****, if we're going to go off of the "I don't like it, therefore anyone who says they like it is lying" logic then I guess NO ONE IN THE WORLD likes green tea, diet soda, olives, baby corn, baby carrots, regular carrots, Perrier, small dogs, spiders, snakes, rap, country, Justin Bieber, American Idol, 95% of reality shows, the Nissan Cubes, IBM/Lenovo Laptops and their retarded placement of the Fn key where Ctrl should be, AOL, Norton AntiVirus, the "Imagine" games for Nintendo DS...
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While I personally am unhappy with the game, and while I personally complain about it, I don't get why people who don't enjoy the game are in sheer disbelief that someone could.

Yes, some people are enjoying FFXIV. The problem is that this group is a small minority in comparison to people who don't like it, but just because I don't enjoy it doesn't mean they don't.

I mean, ****, if we're going to go off of the "I don't like it, therefore anyone who says they like it is lying" logic then I guess NO ONE IN THE WORLD likes green tea, diet soda, olives, baby corn, baby carrots, regular carrots, Perrier, small dogs, spiders, snakes, rap, country, Justin Bieber, American Idol, 95% of reality shows, the Nissan Cubes, IBM/Lenovo Laptops and their retarded placement of the Fn key where Ctrl should be, AOL, Norton AntiVirus, the "Imagine" games for Nintendo DS...


Bummer Mik, Olives are pretty good.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
While I personally am unhappy with the game, and while I personally complain about it, I don't get why people who don't enjoy the game are in sheer disbelief that someone could.

Yes, some people are enjoying FFXIV. The problem is that this group is a small minority in comparison to people who don't like it, but just because I don't enjoy it doesn't mean they don't.

I mean, ****, if we're going to go off of the "I don't like it, therefore anyone who says they like it is lying" logic then I guess NO ONE IN THE WORLD likes green tea, diet soda, olives, baby corn, baby carrots, regular carrots, Perrier, small dogs, spiders, snakes, rap, country, Justin Bieber, American Idol, 95% of reality shows, the Nissan Cubes, IBM/Lenovo Laptops and their retarded placement of the Fn key where Ctrl should be, AOL, Norton AntiVirus, the "Imagine" games for Nintendo DS...


Bummer Mik, Olives are pretty good.

no they aren't, you liar!
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#35 Jan 27 2011 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Players develop an opinion of FFXIV through a process that takes some poeple longer than others to get through.

At first, game is shiney. New. Fun even. Mildly irritating perhaps, but you've put up with far worse in the past to play a game you mostly enjoy.

Next, you start to wonder why is everyone so mad? Surely this complaining is a gross exageration as you are still mostly enjoying yourself. (At this point some peolple have played the game far more than you have.) I am guesssing you are at this point right now, StrayeXIV.

Before too long, the little things start to pile up and you find yourself struggling through certain aspects to get back to the parts you enjoy. A bit bored at times. Perhaps you stare at the login screen thinking, what exactly am I going to do though? Craft? Leves? (I've done those leves 50 times already!) Well, I might as well log in and see my friends at least!

Now you start to see some validity in other peoples' complaints. They reached this point in the opinion process long before you (perhaps because of extra playtime). You start to feel as if FFXIV could indeed be much better than it is.

(Optionally at this point you may find another cool game that completely distracts you from FFXIV. Upon returning to FFXIV, you may compare the two and find FFXIV lacking in some areas. More importantly though, you returned to FFXIV. Turns out, there are still alot of things to do after all.)

So you try to put your finger on what you want improved. Log onto ZAM make a big list off fixes and rant a bit. Talk about how you don't want to play becuase of this or that. Get rated down by others at a different part in the process. Mostly, you just want very badly for FFXIV to be awesome in all areas like you expected it to be.

Finally, acceptance. The players who are left, and most of the posters here at ZAM, have accepted the games flaws. Each are looking forward to improvements with varying degrees of patience. Everyone wants more content! The future looks a bit brighter with every update.

I relaize that this is actually my own thought process, and I am merely overlaying it upon other people posts to help myself understand the wide variety of opinions that I see regarding FFXIV - not just from different players, but also from the same player over a certain amount of time.

Welcome to ZAM StrayeXIV. Threads such as this complaining about complainers are common. You will actaully find the whole spectrum of opinions here. The best part is that many posters here take some time to flesh out their positive or negative opinions with a bit of thought and reasoning. It is these insightful posts keep me compelled to visit ZAM everyday.
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:

I mean, ****, if we're going to go off of the "I don't like it, therefore anyone who says they like it is lying" logic then I guess NO ONE IN THE WORLD likes green tea, diet soda, olives, baby corn, baby carrots, regular carrots, Perrier, small dogs, spiders, snakes, rap, country, Justin Bieber, American Idol, 95% of reality shows, the Nissan Cubes, IBM/Lenovo Laptops and their retarded placement of the Fn key where Ctrl should be, AOL, Norton AntiVirus, the "Imagine" games for Nintendo DS...


I hate diet soda and perrier, small dogs, spiders, snakes, rap, justin bieber, American Idol, 100% of reality shows, AOL and Norton. Most everything else I'm apathetic about.

As for olives...you try and take my olives and and I'll @$*%ing cut you.
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I don't know....
To be fair, they HAVE warned us 15 times now!
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I don't know....
To be fair, they HAVE warned us 15 times now!


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I don't know....
To be fair, they HAVE warned us 15 times now!

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WARNINGW WARNING! Final Fantasy! oh noes! it's the last one! =/
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#40 Feb 06 2011 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
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I have a wife and a full time job. Gaming is my hobby, and I take it seriously.

Its about efficiency and I don't stand in town chatting or wasting time. I spend my time leveling.

I take time to do many other things with my wife, none of which are your business, and you shouldn't have assumed what I want to do with my life.

I CAN enjoy a game, and play it how I WANT to play it. I have outlined in my videos how I level so fast, and if you would worry more about yourself instead of how I live my life, maybe you would be higher rank too.

Don't put words in my mouth, or tell me how to run my life.

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Meh its still not an enjoyable game and honestly I dunno why anyone is even playing it in the state its in...they keep releasing patches when everytime I log into the game it looks the exact same to me, they need to be adding content and lots of it...actually at this point I'd even prefer if they made the game from scratch. Majority of you actually playing the game still are hoping that it eventually becomes an FFXI-2..
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Majority of you actually playing the game still are hoping that it eventually becomes an FFXI-2..
Because FFXI was a good game. I don't really want to make a FFXI-2 either, but I can understand the desire, considering how much more enjoyable of an experience it was.
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