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#1 Jan 27 2011 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Well, now that the news is out, I wonder if we'll someday be able to play FFXIV on the PSP2. Considering it's specs....

"Specs include a quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor, 5-inch touchscreen OLED display with 960 x 544 resolution, dual analog sticks (not nubs as on the current generation), 3G, WiFi, GPS, a rear-mounted touchpad, the same accelerometer / gyroscope motion sensing as in the PlayStation Move, an electronic compass, and cameras on both the front and back. Available this holiday season."

And I'm assuming either 500MB or ram, or more likely 1 Gig, compared to what the high-end smartphones will offer when this goes on sale... so that makes it like 2x better right?


http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/the-sony-psp2/
#2 Jan 27 2011 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
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would love that but I doubt it will be possible. Maybe on the PSP3

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#3 Jan 27 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
Considering the ps3 is probably going to have issues running it, I doubt this portable gaming system will. I always think of handheld systems along the lines of laptops. Sure they can play games, but you'll never get near what a full-on desktop PC can give you.
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It would be possible if FFXIV had voice chat built into it but I can't imagine trying to type on a handheld. I mean it's one thing to send a text message on an iphone but that must be absolutely horrible to do in an MMO.

It'd work well on a game like guild wars or DDO that are action based or have limited commands, even FFXI/FFXIV if not for the chat system. DDO at least has voice chat built into it though :D

MMOs drain battery life though because of their constant connection to a server, they are bad enough on laptops and must destroy handhelds :D
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I'll wait until the PSP2Ultra comes out so it will be thin enough to fit in my pack of cigs in my Tshirt pocket.
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could they run it on there...yes, would it run very well or be all too useful (because of reasons posted above) not really. The tech is VERY impressive and if priced right il pass on 3DS for a while to get one (the dual sticks alone makes me want it, why nintendo skipped that kind of baffles me) They also already got MGS4 and Uncharted running on it to almost the same specs as the PS3 (its **** close on the uncharted bit i saw from gamespot)

Even if they could get it on there, id probably only use it when i craft of poke around the markets, but not for combat or story. Either way im going to crap my pants when we get an online, voice chat Monster Hunter on there with those duel sticks and HD screen.
#8 Jan 27 2011 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good
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I don't see why not, if we have core duo 2 with 2 gigas of RAM running FFXIV I think NGP could be totally capable of running a simplified version of FFXIV (no shadows/weather effects, maybe no AA)

I don't think chatting will be such a problem though, typing in a touch screen isn't half bad, considering that most people can't blind type anyway.

First MMORPG of a handheld... that sound pretty awesome, awesome enough to revitalize the game in many ways.

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Edited, Jan 28th 2011 8:01am by kenage
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#9 Jan 27 2011 at 9:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ya, I'd say preety much what ken said. If they created a simplified version of it, I'd guess that it could run it, for 2 big reasons.

1. When Sony releases a new gaming system, the specs are no joke and people can rarely draw relevant conclusions about the power by looking at the stats because they try to compare them to computers, which they are, but wow are they optimized! So its rough to do that accurately. Most people underestimate whats really under the hood. 1 ghz does not equal 1 ghz. It depends on whats being done in each clock cycle.

2. Console systems, including handhelds don't have to run the game on top a cumbersome operating system like windows. It's thanks to windows that people think that any game needs more than 1 GB of ram (2 GB maybe... if ur running at resolutions so high that you're eyeballs are physically struggling to perceive the difference). They just simply don't lol. Oh, with windows they sure do! some need 2-4 GB under those curcumstances. Also all of the hardware runs on a cleaner bus system without all the extra traffic from the OS and all the backround programs that may be running. If computers had a dedicated gaming OS and games were programmed efficiently, people would quickly find that anything over a $200 graphics card would be a waste.

So I guess what I'm saying is that if they parred down the game a little bit and optimized it for psp hardware, I'd have a hard time imagining that it wouldn't run ffxiv.

Edit: Oh I just read it has quad core cpu and quad core gpu. Doesn't tell you much, again work per clock cycle is everything, but its a hint :). Also with a max res of 960 x 544, I can't imagine memory req's being over a 1 GB. So if it comes with that, I'd definitely say yes to ffxiv. In addition... If I'm remembering correctly, psp was more powerful than ps2 when it released (first time in history hand-held outdid the latest console). So don't be surprised if psp2 hand-held is more powerful than ps3 console.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 11:04pm by Taxmaster
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I'll wait until the PSP2Ultra comes out so it will be thin enough to fit in my pack of cigs in my Tshirt pocket.

Lyle ALWAYS has something excellent to say. Thanks bud, the world needs more people with a sense of humor.

On the PSP2. I hope after jump is implemented and the battle system is fixed no one in the right mind would consider trying to play it on a hand-held. The game would have to be pretty slow and simple to achieve anything on that tiny screen.

Player 1: Dude, what the **** man? Why'd you aggro, now we wiped!
Player 2: Sorry broski, playin on my PSP.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 11:25pm by Transmigration
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#11 Jan 27 2011 at 10:56 PM Rating: Good
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Transmigration wrote:
LyleVertigo wrote:
I'll wait until the PSP2Ultra comes out so it will be thin enough to fit in my pack of cigs in my Tshirt pocket.

Lyle ALWAYS has something excellent to say. Thanks bud, the world needs more people with a sense of humor.

On the PSP2. I hope after jump is implemented and the battle system is fixed no one in the right mind would consider trying to play it on a hand-held. The game would have to be pretty slow and simple to achieve anything on that tiny screen.

Player 1: Dude, what the @#%^ man? Why'd you aggro, now we wiped!
Player 2: Sorry broski, playin on my PSP.

Edited, Jan 27th 2011 11:25pm by Transmigration
Never played monster hunter freedom on a psp ha?

It's perfectly fine, to play an online game in a hand-held, and I'm willing to bet that monster hunter requires more focus to play that FFXIV.

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#12 Jan 27 2011 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
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I don't mean to have a "I don't see a need for more than 640k of RAM" moment (Which, incidentally, Bill Gates never actually said) but I personally do not see a huge market for MMORPGs on handhelds, due to a combination of hard drive space on the portable devices, ease of distraction when using a handheld as opposed to a console/computer, a different type of player mentality between primarily console players vs primarily console/computer players, and a number of other similar matters I can't really put into words.

I can't really describe it accurately, and I'm not even happy with the way I worded it just now because I don't think I can accurately express what I mean in simple terms (nor do I think I accurately expressed it here) but I just can't really picture an MMORPG on a handheld. It's kinda like picturing my mother buying an iPhone. Sure it's technically possible that it could happen, but it just seems so... off? Weird? Non sequitur? Displacing? I can't think of the term that most accurately describes it.

But then again, if you had told me 15 years ago, back in the days of Doom 2 on Dialup where you had to connect your modem via phone to dial to someone else's modem, that one day I'd be able to play an online game with THOUSANDS of players, and without tying up my telephone line for hours... I'd think that sounded a little off, too.

For that matter, if you had told me even 10 years ago that I'd be able to construct a computer blindfolded (part of a bet; I got 20 bucks out of it), I'm not sure I'd believe -that- either.

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#13 Jan 28 2011 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Things are changing pretty fast, it won't be long before G2/3 become the predominant internet channels and ground connection begin looking like something obsolete.

Besides I'm a main PC gamer and got a PSP for all the... 3rd party wonders, I would have been really happy if ffxi was available for it back in the day, even if was only wifi-able.

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#14 Jan 28 2011 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
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FFXI maybe, but not even close with FFXIV.
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#15 Jan 28 2011 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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XI on psp would kick ***!


...o_O what?! I'm just sayin'


I don't see XIV ever happening but MMOing on handhelds is pretty fun actually. I know it's a border case but Phantasy Star Portable is really fun in online mode.

btw is my spelling incredibly retarded (sorry!) or does google spell-check just completely avaid adding any gaming related word into their vocabulary?
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I'd buy one straight away if it played XI or XIV. Would be great for night shift at work.

I think you should only be able to solo on a handheld, so you don't slow down group play.

At the very least, an offline crafting mode, or a Coliseum (was that the name of the monster arena in XI?) that you could use anywhere, then upload your new stats to the main game when you get home.
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I'd buy one straight away if it played XI or XIV. Would be great for night shift at work.

I think you should only be able to solo on a handheld, so you don't slow down group play.

At the very least, an offline crafting mode, or a Coliseum (was that the name of the monster arena in XI?) that you could use anywhere, then upload your new stats to the main game when you get home.

No, and heres why:
PS3/PSP/Future PSP2 homebrew.

Look what happened to Call of Duty 4 where its unplayable online right now because of hackers. People hack anything they have control over, and a handheld would be easy to apply untraceable hacks. Think about how Diablo 2 unofficial games were, the Non-Battle.net ones, where people have 999+ stats. If they ever added an offline crafting mode it would immediately be exploited.

Sure, it would be nice if you could trust players, but ya can't :D
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Aren't consoles and handhelds harder to hack than PCs?

MMO hacking is very hard, since all the important stuff (i.e., your stats and items) are stored server-side. FPS hacking is easy, since the important stuff is how fast you get your crosshairs on a target, which is client-side.
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Aren't consoles and handhelds harder to hack than PCs?

MMO hacking is very hard, since all the important stuff (i.e., your stats and items) are stored server-side. FPS hacking is easy, since the important stuff is how fast you get your crosshairs on a target, which is client-side.


Only harder in the sense that "they require more knowledge", so therefore less people are able to do it. The reason that PC games have so many (and I use the term loosely) "hackers" is because any script kiddie can download a bot and run it. It's only slightly more difficult than tying your shoes.

Since consoles and handhelds don't have a simple, straightforward method of finding what you want and running programs in the background, it requires a bit more knowledge to do. It's not impossible to do these things on a console or handheld, but it requires a skillset that the majority of gamers don't have, compared to computer game cheating wherein the only skillsets are the ability to use google and the ability to double click.

And if the game had an offline mode, it would be so insanely prone to cheating that it isn't even funny. When you're online, you're communicating with the server. When you're offline, you're not communicating with anything. So when you reconnect, the server has no choice but to trust that the data sent to it by the system is accurate.
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they have a video of them playing MH3 on PSP2 and having full camera control with the 2nd analog stick.....SOLD!
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regardless of being able to play XIV... I want one of these puppies
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they have a video of them playing MH3 on PSP2 and having full camera control with the 2nd analog stick.....SOLD!


I always dreamed of my PSP1000 back in the day having a miniature FFXI client where all I could do was craft and fish.

The day of a homebrewed FFXI game on the PSP2 is fast aproaching.
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regardless of being able to play XIV... I want one of these puppies


Yep, I'm saving up for one starting yesterday. They look pretty sweet.

Even if you couldn't play the entire FFXIV on one, they could use them in some application. Crafting or that battle coliseum are really good ideas.

If I bought my PSP for $250.00 back in the day, I'm thinking they would cost at least $350.00-$400.00. Does that sound pretty far off?
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#24 Jan 28 2011 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
Personally I'll be getting a 3DS on launch day and waiting about a year before getting a PSP2. However I think it would be cool if maybe they allowed you to craft or check wards or whatever via the PSP2. The limiting factor would be the HDD/Removable media as supposedly it can run near PS3 level games. Typing honestly wouldn't be an issue as so many people still aren't. I'd just be worried about fitting all the pertinent info on a small screen.
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If you can remote play PS3 games on the PSP2 than yes, you'll be able to play it on the go.
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#26 Jan 29 2011 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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If I bought my PSP for $250.00 back in the day, I'm thinking they would cost at least $350.00-$400.00. Does that sound pretty far off?
My guess would be $299.
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PerrinofSylph, ****** Superhero wrote:
Personally I'll be getting a 3DS on launch day and waiting about a year before getting a PSP2. However I think it would be cool if maybe they allowed you to craft or check wards or whatever via the PSP2. The limiting factor would be the HDD/Removable media as supposedly it can run near PS3 level games. Typing honestly wouldn't be an issue as so many people still aren't. I'd just be worried about fitting all the pertinent info on a small screen.


thats the big one for me, i play on a 26" LCD and i feel like my screen is cramped with all the little bars and crap on it, now put that on a 5" screen....ouch. FFXI might be better because the only real space taker is the chat menu, so i could see that working....and i can bet you someone will try and emulate it.
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I don't mean to have a "I don't see a need for more than 640k of RAM" moment (Which, incidentally, Bill Gates never actually said) but I personally do not see a huge market for MMORPGs on handhelds, due to a combination of hard drive space on the portable devices, ease of distraction when using a handheld as opposed to a console/computer, a different type of player mentality between primarily console players vs primarily console/computer players, and a number of other similar matters I can't really put into words.
Edited, Jan 28th 2011 12:10am by Mikhalia


Maybe not MMOs as we know them today, but I wouldn't say for sure handheld MMOs won't work. Who's to say we won't see something like a Pokemon MMO, where you just go have a few quick battles and then can put the game down?
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if the psp2 were able to run FFXI, I'd go back to that game so fast
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if the psp2 were able to run FFXI, I'd go back to that game so fast


technically the PSP(1) could run it, what was holding it back is the not so great wifi and not having like 10+ gigs of space to put the game on.

the psp 2 could run it to its max easy and with SD cards as big as 16G's, i dont see why not (if it does have ps2 emulator). I wouldnt be surprised for a second if someone tried and got it running (though i dont think it would ever be offical)
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NGP(aka psp2) better have a hefty storage space, I just renewed my ps3 few months ago for less than 300USD and got a HDD of 320 gigabites, I'm expecting no less than 64gigabytes base memory for the NGP otherwise we will run out of space pretty fast.

That's the kind of storage which offer enough room to play MMORPG's

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Those freaking fingerprints!! Why oh why did they have to leave them in every shot? If they wanted to show what fingerprints look like on it's finish they could've just had them in one picture. Seeing that has already made me take a cleaning cloth to the screen of my droid and my PDA. Going to have to wipe down my PS3 and PSP when I get home.

That's just awful!

Edited, Jan 31st 2011 2:58pm by MrTalos
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Those freaking fingerprints!! Why oh why did they have to leave them in every shot? If they wanted to show what fingerprints look like on it's finish they could've just had them in one picture. Seeing that has already made me take a cleaning cloth to the screen of my droid and my PDA. Going to have to wide down my PS3 and PSP when I get home.

That's just awful!
I don't understand why Sony keeps going with the polished black design. They got it right for once with the PSP slim. The silver case hides fingerprints and smudges as well as nicks and scratches from regular usage/storage.
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Those freaking fingerprints!! Why oh why did they have to leave them in every shot? If they wanted to show what fingerprints look like on it's finish they could've just had them in one picture. Seeing that has already made me take a cleaning cloth to the screen of my droid and my PDA. Going to have to wide down my PS3 and PSP when I get home.

That's just awful!
I don't understand why Sony keeps going with the polished black design. They got it right for once with the PSP slim. The silver case hides fingerprints and smudges as well as nicks and scratches from regular usage/storage.

My Sony TV and home stereo system are the same polished black. I guess when it's all nice and clean and spotless it does look really nice but even little stuff stands out on them. Another thing that looks great on a display behind glass(plastic) but in the real world doesn't work out so well.
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MMO on a handheld do you know how many people would die on the freeway each year?
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#36 Jan 31 2011 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
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if the psp2 were able to run FFXI, I'd go back to that game so fast


technically the PSP(1) could run it, what was holding it back is the not so great wifi and not having like 10+ gigs of space to put the game on.

the psp 2 could run it to its max easy and with SD cards as big as 16G's, i dont see why not (if it does have ps2 emulator). I wouldnt be surprised for a second if someone tried and got it running (though i dont think it would ever be offical)


Never gonna happen seing as the PSP doesnt support windows or DirectX, and also doesnt support the playing of ripped PS2 games let alone the lack of controls you would experience without as many buttons as a regular already severly limited ps2 controller.
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zanfire wrote:
MajidahSihaam wrote:
if the psp2 were able to run FFXI, I'd go back to that game so fast


technically the PSP(1) could run it, what was holding it back is the not so great wifi and not having like 10+ gigs of space to put the game on.

the psp 2 could run it to its max easy and with SD cards as big as 16G's, i dont see why not (if it does have ps2 emulator). I wouldnt be surprised for a second if someone tried and got it running (though i dont think it would ever be offical)


Never gonna happen seing as the PSP doesnt support windows or DirectX, and also doesnt support the playing of ripped PS2 games let alone the lack of controls you would experience without as many buttons as a regular already severly limited ps2 controller.


yah there was enough stuff stopping it, but in terms of ram/cpu/gpu it could do it. I would assume the new psp2 could play it like a champ (lots of rumors and people clammoring for it to have ps1-2 games on the marketplace, and i think it would be pretty stupid not to. This system they could map the L2 and R2 to the touch pads, so i could see it working (r3 and L3 im not sure, tjough i know FFXI would need it, but they could put those on start and select)

Also i dont think they said anything about internal memory, but the expanded memory can already go to 16gb (for like 50$) so i think someone would give it a try if they really wanted to.
#38 Jan 31 2011 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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zanfire wrote:
yah there was enough stuff stopping it, but in terms of ram/cpu/gpu it could do it.
Still doubt it, even if they tried to make a port for it. FFXI barely ran on the ps2. Not like it isn't just moot anyway.




Edited, Jan 31st 2011 3:19pm by bsphil
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#39cornyboob, Posted: Jan 31 2011 at 3:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It would have to have more then 16gb as i recall ffxi was over 25gb when i quit in mid 2004 then it got like 5 more expansions im sure its well over 35gb now at least, wouldnt leave much room for other games. However if it supports SD then it should support HDSD that go up to 64GB then its more realistic.
#40 Feb 01 2011 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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^ its not even close to that, on my PC it only takes a little over 10gb 's and on my friends 360 its about that too. either way SD cards range from 1gb up to 64gbs now a days. i would not be surprised if some FFXI fan tried it if we can play ps2 games on the psp2.
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I think y'all are way overestimating the power required to pump such a small resolution. I bet it could run it just fine.

Most of us here are running the game at a resolution producing over 2 million pixels (I'm running it just fine with a 5770 at 2.3 million pixels)

Ths PSP2 is barely half a million pixels.

Also they coul make the PSP2 version of the game where it has various graphical features disabled or set on low by default. You really don't need high background draw distances enabled on a 5" screen, for example.


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Mithsavvy wrote:
I think y'all are way overestimating the power required to pump such a small resolution. I bet it could run it just fine.

Most of us here are running the game at a resolution producing over 2 million pixels (I'm running it just fine with a 5770 at 2.3 million pixels)

Ths PSP2 is barely half a million pixels.

Also they coul make the PSP2 version of the game where it has various graphical features disabled or set on low by default. You really don't need high background draw distances enabled on a 5" screen, for example.




there is no doubt it could run it, but things like the screen being clustered (since its small) not having a usb port for a keyboard, or the game having chat built in, or not having all the controls there (r2/l2, which could be fine, but unless the sticks click, r3 and l3 would be missing).

Either way i doubt 14 will hit the psp2, but FFXI has a good chance of being emulated on it if they do end up supporting ps2 games on it (someone will try it legitly or not).
#43 Feb 01 2011 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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If the game was more efficient then that would be a different story, but the optimization is just not there.

By the way, you're silly if you're thinking the 5770 is a viable comparison running at 4x the screen size.



Edited, Feb 1st 2011 1:56pm by bsphil
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#44 Feb 01 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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obviously it would not work. BUT with that said millions upon millions upon billions of dollars are being invested into the smartphone/handheld market. Even the tablet market tons of new stuff is coming out. You can watch a commercial break on T.V anymore withour seeing an add for something mobile related. With that said watch out for the future. There will be mmorgh's somehow in a mobile enviornment. may not be FFXIV the whole game, but I can see SE getting ahead of this exploding market and releasing perhaps an FFXIV APP for your phone where you can manage different aspects of your character? Perhaps through an app you can pull your leve's or manage your retainers?

Just saying just because the full game isn't doable/pheasible yet on a handheld, doesn't mean you can have partial experience from a handheld.
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#45 Feb 01 2011 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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may not be FFXIV the whole game, but I can see SE getting ahead of this exploding market and releasing perhaps an FFXIV APP for your phone where you can manage different aspects of your character? Perhaps through an app you can pull your leve's or manage your retainers?
Nostalgia? Don't get your hopes up. (Has been covered before)

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 4:43pm by bsphil
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#46 Feb 01 2011 at 6:40 PM Rating: Good
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bsphil wrote:
If the game was more efficient then that would be a different story, but the optimization is just not there.

By the way, you're silly if you're thinking the 5770 is a viable comparison running at 4x the screen size.



Edited, Feb 1st 2011 1:56pm by bsphil
This is a problem with PC architecture and the way the coding almost seam ported into Direct X, you gotta keep in mind that FFXI is still extremely efficient of ps2, I won't be surprised if the ps3 version of FFXIV run just fine, SE has issues with PC games, consoles are their specialty.

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#47 Feb 01 2011 at 10:40 PM Rating: Default
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You guys seriously sub defaulted my post about the size of the game.

I still ahve it installed on my harddrive with a TaUh pack installed and it is 25gb on disk.

Claiming that it somehow got smaller doesnt even make sence.

Did they somehow compress all the old content during a future expansion that I missed out on buying when i quit?

I doubt it seriously.
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#48 Feb 02 2011 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
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cornyboob wrote:
You guys seriously sub defaulted my post about the size of the game.

I still ahve it installed on my harddrive with a TaUh pack installed and it is 25gb on disk.

Claiming that it somehow got smaller doesnt even make sence.

Did they somehow compress all the old content during a future expansion that I missed out on buying when i quit?

I doubt it seriously.


maybe something is wrong there? It would make 0 sense to have it that big. FFXIV came out on X360 when the only HDD they had was 20GB. It also was all the way up to ToAU, so #s that big just dont mesh.

i just re-intalled the whole game a couple days ago and i checked it pre-updates, then after with toau and Wotg, with 5 mini expansions and it was around 10gs. now with updates its about 12gb~.

you really have to have something else in there.
#49 Feb 02 2011 at 3:52 PM Rating: Default
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If there is something else in that folder it must be some glitch that didnt delete temp files or something because the folder was massive.

As i dont play the game any longer I just uninstalled it so nwo it takes up 0MB

Well never know.
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