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#1 Feb 01 2011 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.

Given the terrible reviews this game received (presumably by MMO reviewers who didn't spend many hours in FFXI), is it safe to say you need to be a FFXI veteran to appreciate it?

I played FFXIV Beta before having a WoW subscription, and only having played a few months of Aion, so I'm sure it's not that I was "spoiled" by previous MMOs that I found FFXIV unplayable. I'm just trying to figure out what separates me (who generally enjoys somewhat tedious, less in-your-face games, and is dissatisfied by WoW's crafting, lore, and community) from people who love FFXIV.
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#2 Feb 01 2011 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.

Given the terrible reviews this game received (presumably by MMO reviewers who didn't spend many hours in FFXI), is it safe to say you need to be a FFXI veteran to appreciate it?

I played FFXIV Beta before having a WoW subscription, and only having played a few months of Aion, so I'm sure it's not that I was "spoiled" by previous MMOs that I found FFXIV unplayable. I'm just trying to figure out what separates me (who generally enjoys somewhat tedious, less in-your-face games, and is dissatisfied by WoW's crafting, lore, and community) from people who love FFXIV.



I have well over a year of real playtime in FFXI and I Appreciate FFXIV the same way I would appreciate it if someone walked up to me and kicked me in the balls.

I started playing XIV with a group that migrated from XI. theyve all either all gone back to XI or to WoW.
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#3 Feb 01 2011 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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yfaithfully wrote:
I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.
Makes sense, FFXIV got basically zero advertising in the US. The majority of people who knew about it would have been people playing FFXI during the development/beta/release, and probably the few that weren't familiar with the FFXI style of gameplay didn't have the energy to put up with FFXIV.
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#4 Feb 01 2011 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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Non-FFXI veteran here - playing and loving it. I've picked this horse as the one to ride for the next many years. I enjoy the game as is and see great potential in it as well. I'm a casual player and don't mind slowly working my way up in rank. Right now there is more than enough for me to do, and I don't have enough free time to play that I get bored by the repetition/lack of diverse content.

I expect the game to grow and I figure that my character will grow with it.
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#5 Feb 01 2011 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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yfaithfully wrote:
I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.
Makes sense, FFXIV got basically zero advertising in the US. The majority of people who knew about it would have been people playing FFXI during the development/beta/release, and probably the few that weren't familiar with the FFXI style of gameplay didn't have the energy to put up with FFXIV.


Indeed, this is why after they fix it, they need to invest money into television ads, like they do for many of their single player titles.
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#6 Feb 01 2011 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
bsphil wrote:
yfaithfully wrote:
I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.
Makes sense, FFXIV got basically zero advertising in the US. The majority of people who knew about it would have been people playing FFXI during the development/beta/release, and probably the few that weren't familiar with the FFXI style of gameplay didn't have the energy to put up with FFXIV.
Indeed, this is why after they fix it, they need to invest money into television ads, like they do for many of their single player titles.
That was really surprising about the lead-up to release, because even FFXI got some advertising, and I remember seeing FFXIII heavily advertised. In retrospect, maybe they were well aware of the state of the game at release and didn't want to fall too flat on their face by injecting hype into what they knew was a low quality product.
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#7 Feb 01 2011 at 6:41 PM Rating: Good
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NayliaMR wrote:
Non-FFXI veteran here - playing and loving it. I've picked this horse as the one to ride for the next many years. I enjoy the game as is and see great potential in it as well. I'm a casual player and don't mind slowly working my way up in rank. Right now there is more than enough for me to do, and I don't have enough free time to play that I get bored by the repetition/lack of diverse content.

I expect the game to grow and I figure that my character will grow with it.


I share the same sentiment as NayliaMR. I briefly played FFXI but it wasn't for me at the time. Right now my life doesn't really permit hardcore gaming, save the occasional binge on the weekend, so the amount of content offered at this point in FFXIV is plenty for me. The pacing of 8 leves every 36hrs is perfect when balancing work and school, as I can still manage to rank up even if my play time is limited, and I can always grind or explore if I want to put in more hours. Also the beautiful environments, all the NPC's that offer lore, the main story quest, etc. are all elements of MMO's I particularly love and I feel are too often glossed over in MMO's today. I'm tired of simply playing out a game's mechanics through content that lacks depth instead of actually feeling immersed in the fantasy world created by the game. Furthermore, FFXIV really takes a different approach to MMO's than is usually seen today, and that is always refreshing to see. I am all for pushing the boundaries and exploring new territories in a game genre, and I feel FFXIV is aiming to do just that. It just needs time.

That said, if FFXIV stayed as it is today and didn't evolve at all, I couldn't see myself playing for more than a year, if that, but I know that won't be the case, and I am eager to see this game further develop, it has soooo much potential. I just hope a lack of patience on the player community's part doesn't kill the game before it realizes said potential.

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 7:44pm by shodty

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 7:44pm by shodty
#8 Feb 01 2011 at 7:01 PM Rating: Good
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Played XI for 6 years and loved every bit of it. XIV trying hard not to quit.
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XI was great. XIV has massive potential, but there's no denying it's incomplete. I'll continue playing once there's some legit content. This Yoshida dude has some good ideas, so hopefully he can turn XIV into something really cool.
#10 Feb 01 2011 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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I played XI for three years but stopped playing three years or so before XIV was announced. I stopped playing XI for the same reason I haven't logged in to XIV in over a month...I don't want to log in and twiddle thumbs or have to spam around trying to get something fun going. I like this Yoshida fellow. I think he's serious about incorporating player feedback into his plans for the future of the game and that's why I lose interest more and more every time I read about where he's going with things. I appreciate that tomorrow's patch is just one of many to come to bring the game up to a reasonable standard, but if all it takes is some bouncy combat text and an SP system that doesn't fully suck to get people fired up about the game, I'm in with the wrong crowd.
#11 Feb 01 2011 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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I played WoW for many years and left it for FFXIV. I'm happy I have, completely different gameplay and a whole new world.
Yeah sure, WoW has Catacylsm, and it's "changed" the whole map of Azeroth, but it's still the same.

I'm loving everything about FFXIV and all the promised changes coming so quickly over the last month. (Thank you Yoshi-P :P)

So in answer to your question: I'm a non-FFXI veteran and i'm playing and loving this game. :)
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#12 Feb 01 2011 at 8:06 PM Rating: Good
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I don't play FFXI but I enjoy FFXIV, and possibly a third of my LS doesn't play FFXI as well. Might be because it has something in common with The Elder Scroll. You know, the can-do-everything bit. OOT but last time I check TES V Skyrim will now have Forging weapons >_> Blacksmith?
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#13 Feb 02 2011 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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I don't play FFXI but I enjoy FFXIV, and possibly a third of my LS doesn't play FFXI as well. Might be because it has something in common with The Elder Scroll. You know, the can-do-everything bit. OOT but last time I check TES V Skyrim will now have Forging weapons >_> Blacksmith?


I'm just glad Skyrim isn't going to be an MMORPG, as was rumored by some earlier in development.
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#14 Feb 02 2011 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't play XI and I enjoy XIV. Is the hypothesis that no one who didn't play XI likes the game?
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#15 Feb 02 2011 at 10:20 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't play XI and I enjoy XIV. Is the hypothesis that no one who didn't play XI likes the game?

In a way. If you played XI you saw how good SE could be when making MMOs. Going from XI to XIV makes you scratch your head and think 'WTF were they thinking?' It just kind of sours the whole thing. That's my take on it.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2011 11:30am by BrokenFox
#16 Feb 02 2011 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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BrokenFox wrote:
volta1 wrote:
I didn't play XI and I enjoy XIV. Is the hypothesis that no one who didn't play XI likes the game?

In a way. If you played XI you saw how good SE could be when making MMOs. Going from XI to XIV makes you scratch your head and think 'WTF were they thinking?' It just kind of sours the whole thing. That's my take on it.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2011 11:30am by BrokenFox


Well, let me redact my initial response.

I *did* play XI, for a month, at the US launch. I thought it was unbearably bad. My excitement for it, at the time, is comparable to when XIV was coming out (Google info it on daily, built a new PC to play it, etc.) But the game was so damned frustrating that I quit, never to return.

This launch, despite much much harsher criticism, is to me a whole lot better. The game is more playable and fun than I remember XI being (granted, I played in 2003 or 4 so my memory of it may be a bit skewed).

In any event, considering how much XI changed over its lifetime according to what I've read/who I've talked to, and how horribly bad that game was at launch from my experience, I remain optimistic on the potential for XIV and gleefully preoccupied with what it has to offer now.
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#17 Feb 02 2011 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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shodty wrote:
NayliaMR wrote:
Non-FFXI veteran here - playing and loving it. I've picked this horse as the one to ride for the next many years. I enjoy the game as is and see great potential in it as well. I'm a casual player and don't mind slowly working my way up in rank. Right now there is more than enough for me to do, and I don't have enough free time to play that I get bored by the repetition/lack of diverse content.

I expect the game to grow and I figure that my character will grow with it.


I share the same sentiment as NayliaMR. I briefly played FFXI but it wasn't for me at the time. Right now my life doesn't really permit hardcore gaming, save the occasional binge on the weekend, so the amount of content offered at this point in FFXIV is plenty for me. The pacing of 8 leves every 36hrs is perfect when balancing work and school, as I can still manage to rank up even if my play time is limited, and I can always grind or explore if I want to put in more hours. Also the beautiful environments, all the NPC's that offer lore, the main story quest, etc. are all elements of MMO's I particularly love and I feel are too often glossed over in MMO's today. I'm tired of simply playing out a game's mechanics through content that lacks depth instead of actually feeling immersed in the fantasy world created by the game. Furthermore, FFXIV really takes a different approach to MMO's than is usually seen today, and that is always refreshing to see. I am all for pushing the boundaries and exploring new territories in a game genre, and I feel FFXIV is aiming to do just that. It just needs time.

That said, if FFXIV stayed as it is today and didn't evolve at all, I couldn't see myself playing for more than a year, if that, but I know that won't be the case, and I am eager to see this game further develop, it has soooo much potential. I just hope a lack of patience on the player community's part doesn't kill the game before it realizes said potential.

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 7:44pm by shodty

Edited, Feb 1st 2011 7:44pm by shodty


+1, SAME as you, execpt that i stoped playing FF series at ff7.

the 1st minute i played this game i had a flash back of me playing zelda ocarina of time, great times
#18 Feb 02 2011 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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volta1 wrote:
I didn't play XI and I enjoy XIV. Is the hypothesis that no one who didn't play XI likes the game?



This is a weird thought.
People I know that haven't played either title think that XIV is almost identical to XI.

I who have played both however think they're so different that to me they're almost exact opposites of each other.

As a FF veteran I'd say XI is pretty classic FF style I often describe it as a cross between FFIII and Shadow of the Colossus where as XIV is more like a hybrid between X-2 and a Crystal Chronicles game. I really don't know how to describe it but it sure as **** doesn't remind me of XI one bit.
#19 Feb 02 2011 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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yfaithfully wrote:
I'm not playing FFXIV, although I keep checking the forums for any sign that it's moving in a direction that would get me to play. Something I notice from what seems like _all_ the regulars is that all of them have played FFXI extensively.

Given the terrible reviews this game received (presumably by MMO reviewers who didn't spend many hours in FFXI), is it safe to say you need to be a FFXI veteran to appreciate it?

I played FFXIV Beta before having a WoW subscription, and only having played a few months of Aion, so I'm sure it's not that I was "spoiled" by previous MMOs that I found FFXIV unplayable. I'm just trying to figure out what separates me (who generally enjoys somewhat tedious, less in-your-face games, and is dissatisfied by WoW's crafting, lore, and community) from people who love FFXIV.


dont start playing this game yet unless you enjoy grinding mobs in empty space...
#20 Feb 02 2011 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Never played FFXI,in fact,this is my first final fantasy game,and i am loving it.

It has that oldschool feeling,something that new mmorpgs will never have (thanks to wow).
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