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#1 Feb 01 2011 at 6:51 PM Rating: Default
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I don't think it will, anyone else?
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#2 Feb 01 2011 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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It will. Where's your evidence that they're scrapping the ps3 release?

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#3 Feb 01 2011 at 6:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well a ps3 launch is one of the main things that can save this game. No ps3 launch = bad news for SE.
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At this point SE is pretty much banking on the PS3 release to save the project. If they're scrapping PS3 release, they're scrapping FFXIV altogether.
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As I'm waiting on the PS3 version I say it's still coming out!!
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#6 Feb 01 2011 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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They have already said they are trying to make it "release worthy". They need to fix all the bugs and everything else that went wrong with it before they can release it for ps3, or this game is truely going to end. Just give it time. SE really needs this game to pull through.
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#7 Feb 01 2011 at 7:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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The PS3 will have FFXIV, it just won't be anytime soon due to numerous fixes needed to be addressed first.
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#8 Feb 01 2011 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
Of course it will. They will make this work eventually and people will always play.
The game now is terrible, the game a few months from now could be awesome, as they seem to be aiming to fix just about everything currently wrong with the game.

A relaunch for PC alongside the PS3 version could be exactly what the game needs. kinda like what domino's recently did.

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#9 Feb 01 2011 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm going to be optimistic, and assume it's coming out, while citing some examples of MMOs that were console-bound that didn't make it.

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes (Microsoft was in control of the game and wanted it on 360 but jumped ship and SOE bought it)
Age of Conan
Huxley
Everquest II
DDO and LOTRO (Notice how they have huge xbox 360 controller support, and even got the Games for Windows logo)
FFXI PS3 version (look up the history, SE said they had plans for it but that sony cut off contact about it)
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#10Ostia, Posted: Feb 01 2011 at 9:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's been delayed indefinitely, that at worst is a hint.
#11 Feb 01 2011 at 9:08 PM Rating: Good
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I think they will do everything they can to get it released in working order.

But I am wondering if they are going to scrap the integrated servers, and go the Sony route, having separate PS3 servers. Only because with the updates they seem to be planning, or even thinking about. Like the revamped UI, possible addon support, ( I know that was just a thought but it's possible still) I think it will cause a performance imbalance between PS3 players and PC'ers.
#12 Feb 01 2011 at 9:31 PM Rating: Good
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Of course they will release this game on ps3, come on these forums are getting old and filled with useless threads.
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all the UI designs that made for this game are PS3 oriented , don't you realize this?

for the PS controller

#14 Feb 01 2011 at 11:04 PM Rating: Good
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I'd like to think they have no choice but to release it on the PS3. If they decide to close up shop all together and scrap both the release and the support for the game then it could mean the end for SE. Consumers are more forgiving if they make a bad game...but if they shut down support for a game people have invested their own time and money on...only to have it all disappear...then the company can no longer be trusted. And turning their backs on those faithful enough to stay along is suicide.
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#15 Feb 01 2011 at 11:13 PM Rating: Excellent
I personally think the reason its indefinitely delayed is that Yoshida pulled the PS3 team off that project and put them on the PC task. Once the PC version is up to par, they'll work on the PS3 version again.
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I'm pretty sure that SE is banking on the PS3 release to bring in a lot of players. Also, anyone who thinks there will be no PS3 release is forgetting two very important facts:

1) Square-Enix is a Japanese company.
2) Most Japanese FFXI players were PS2 players, not PC or 360.

Even if everyone quit today and there was literally NO ONE on the server, there is no way they wouldn't release a game that their primary customer base wants on the console their primary customer base wants to play it on.
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#17 Feb 02 2011 at 12:13 AM Rating: Good
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As a mayor video game company that will be like shooting themselves in the foot.

The game is still better than it was at release and is not like ps3 players have a big catalog of RPG's to play to begin with, besides a console game is by default less demanding from the user than a PC game and 100 times easier to play, actually unless a game is strongly bound to a PC interface (like a RTS) chances are that it can be more successful on consoles.

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#18 Feb 02 2011 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
I'm pretty sure that SE is banking on the PS3 release to bring in a lot of players. Also, anyone who thinks there will be no PS3 release is forgetting two very important facts:

1) Square-Enix is a Japanese company.
2) Most Japanese FFXI players were PS2 players, not PC or 360.

Even if everyone quit today and there was literally NO ONE on the server, there is no way they wouldn't release a game that their primary customer base wants on the console their primary customer base wants to play it on.


I am agreeing with you. But just gonna throw this in, most Japanese players were Ps2 players yes, and NA also had a large portion of Ps2bies, but remember, the Ps2 was a Massively popular console. The Ps3 doesn't come close to the relevancy of the Ps2.
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I predict the PS3 release will coincide with subscriptions being charged.

It will be very hard to safely start charging subscriptions, and the release on a second platform is going signal that the game is ready for a second look. A second round of reviews. From a business perspective, the PS3 release is the best chance of turning this title into a financial success.

#20 Feb 02 2011 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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Ostia wrote:
It's been delayed indefinitely, that at worst is a hint.
Indefinitely just means not definite. It's a work in progress. Being unsure of an exact release date does not imply it will be scrapped entirely.

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Mikhalia the Picky wrote:
I'm pretty sure that SE is banking on the PS3 release to bring in a lot of players. Also, anyone who thinks there will be no PS3 release is forgetting two very important facts:

1) Square-Enix is a Japanese company.
2) Most Japanese FFXI players were PS2 players, not PC or 360.

Even if everyone quit today and there was literally NO ONE on the server, there is no way they wouldn't release a game that their primary customer base wants on the console their primary customer base wants to play it on.


I am agreeing with you. But just gonna throw this in, most Japanese players were Ps2 players yes, and NA also had a large portion of Ps2bies, but remember, the Ps2 was a Massively popular console. The Ps3 doesn't come close to the relevancy of the Ps2.
Also, the PS2 version released months before the PC version in Japan, but the PC version released months before the PS2 version in the US.



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#21 Feb 02 2011 at 1:54 AM Rating: Good
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nobody thinks that. next post.
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#22 Feb 02 2011 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
What a stupid question - of course it will, I am sure it's not just SE's decision that "oh we will not release it now because we had a bad start on PC".... there are contracts that have been discussed and signed that neither of the parties can just walk away from because they are having a bad day.

There are no MMORPGs on PS3 at the moment so FFXIV will be all on it's own collecting money from new playerbase once it is launched... why on earth would either Sony or SE walk away from an opportunity like that?
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There are no MMORPGs on PS3 at the moment except DCUO so FFXIV will be collecting money from new playerbase once it is launched... why on earth would either Sony or SE walk away from an opportunity like that?


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#24 Feb 02 2011 at 4:11 AM Rating: Default
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So its only the faithful left here now

Thats good guys, thats good
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#25 Feb 02 2011 at 5:07 AM Rating: Good
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It's ironic to think Sony gloated they'd be the first and only people to have it in 2010 really...
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#26 Feb 02 2011 at 6:15 AM Rating: Good
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As all other posters already said: cancellation is very, very unlikely
because it would mean they lose their one big remaining chance for a
re-review.
#27 Feb 02 2011 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
Just gonna throw this out there, but till there is an official statement saying it is cancelled and this is removed from the bottom of the page it's still getting a PS3 release. Given that they said the game was ready for launch on the PS3 but they were going to wait till the game was up to the standards it should have been for PC release, it would be pretty silly not to launch it on a system that 90% of their Japanese customers will use over buying a high powered gaming rig.
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#28 Feb 02 2011 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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KristoFurwalken wrote:
I think they will do everything they can to get it released in working order.

But I am wondering if they are going to scrap the integrated servers, and go the Sony route, having separate PS3 servers. Only because with the updates they seem to be planning, or even thinking about. Like the revamped UI, possible addon support, ( I know that was just a thought but it's possible still) I think it will cause a performance imbalance between PS3 players and PC'ers.


FFXI worked just fine on the PS2. I'm sure they can get FFXIV working on the PS3.
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i would say if they can get people to like FFXIV then they'll release it on the PS3. and if they cant it will never get its ps3 version because whats the point if there wont be many subscribers.

also ps3 version wouldnt be their only chance for a 're-review'. probably an expansion disc would get them a re-review too.

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I personally think that if they're smart about it, they'll hold off the on the PS3 release until an expansion is released. If we don't see any more story quests and whatnot added before then, at least that way the game would be reviewed w/ more content.
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#31 Feb 02 2011 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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its not worth it for them to work on the PS3 until they know that its a good investment. If the game makes it to the point where they've stropped drowning and started treading water (starts pulling in monthly fees for example), then they can go ahead and release it for another console to try and bring in people.
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I predict the PS3 release will coincide with subscriptions being charged.

It will be very hard to safely start charging subscriptions, and the release on a second platform is going signal that the game is ready for a second look. A second round of reviews. From a business perspective, the PS3 release is the best chance of turning this title into a financial success.



I tend to agree 100%.
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I think the only reasons it wouldn't come out are:
1) SE abandons the game as a subscription-based game altogether.
2) Sony changes their mind about hosting the game.

Otherwise, I agree with others than SE is desperately going to want to build on the hype of a new release and a new market by releasing to the PS3, probably when (or shortly after) they start charging subscriptions on PC.
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#34 Feb 02 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
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(look up the history, SE said they had plans for it but that sony cut off contact about it


No that's just SE's excuse. What probably actually happened was that SE asked if they could get a pass on Sony's "PS2 to PS3 ports must have an HD graphics update" policy and Sony refused.
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This thread musta have been karma camped it went off and on sub-d

I just read all the posts nothing seemed too bad or worth sub-d except the short no evidence OP post.

Overall i think its a good thread.

My 2 cents - PS3 is comming out probably in July or August. And Pay Subs will be before that probably in June. Or Right after first Content push.
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#36 Feb 03 2011 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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This thread musta have been karma camped it went off and on sub-d

I just read all the posts nothing seemed too bad or worth sub-d except the short no evidence OP post.

Overall i think its a good thread.

My 2 cents - PS3 is comming out probably in July or August. And Pay Subs will be before that probably in June. Or Right after first Content push.

And cornyboob knows a thing or two about sub-d!

Just wondering but how is this a good thread (to you) if you think it's coming out in August when the OP thinks its not coming out? Unfortunately though, I do think your right about the timing of its release, that's about what I had been saying. Basically that the PS3 version will instead of being delayed 6 months, be delayed 1 year.


Although I feel right now, after this update, there's no reason they could not have released the PS3 version in March. Theres 3 patches between now and when the PS3 version was supposed to come out, and in that time the game would be in a marketable state. Considering the old dev team said the "ps3 version is done" in December and then "delayed indefinitely" be nice to release in march
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#37 Feb 03 2011 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't expect to see a PS3 release.

Since the announcement of Yoshi-P taking the helm of the project, no major changes have emerged. Bigger stacks and SP adjustments? A single programmer could make those changes in an afternoon (and given how much SP was buffed, it kinda sounds like they didn't give it much more thought than one afternoon of consideration). Any evidence they've kept on substantial graphics staff?

It's been suggested several times that the PS3 port has hit some problems - I'm gonna go out a limb and say they're probably performance issues. If they've already moved many of the original team members on this project elsewhere, they're gonna have a lot of trouble getting those performance issues in order.

Of course, there's the fact that FFXIV was nominated for - and won - several notorious "bad game" awards. It's been panned universally by the gaming media, and even though it's free-to-play most say that player populations are dwindling. If they charged a monthly fee, the game would be dead. That means that, even with all the "changes" released so far, it's a commercial bomb.

Until you see the game at a state where they can charge a monthly subscription and people will play it, they can't consider a PS3 release.

Since Beta in August, I've seen zero significant changes along the lines of something I'd expect from a big development studio with a big, highly trained staff. They're all minor tweaks. I simply don't think they have many people working on this game.

I see Yoshi's job as being to assess whether minor tweaks can make this game successful. If they can't, it's dead.

That's why they had the survey.
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Of course it will, ps2 was a gold mine for FFXI. SE likes money.
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This thread musta have been karma camped it went off and on sub-d

I just read all the posts nothing seemed too bad or worth sub-d except the short no evidence OP post.
And cornyboob knows a thing or two about sub-d!
This made me lol.
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Well a ps3 launch is one of the main things that can save this game. No ps3 launch = bad news for SE.

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#41 Feb 03 2011 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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OP asked the wrong question, because its not a question of if, its a question of when. It should read:
Will FFXIV come out on PS3 or PS4?
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OP asked the wrong question, because its not a question of if, its a question of when. It should read:
Will FFXIV come out on PS3 or PS4?


Since the PS3 only just became profitable in the past 9 months: http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/04/29/ps3-is-finaly-turning-a-profit/

I think the PS4 is even further out than the PS3 port of FFXIV.

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I don't really think that PS4 is coming out anytime soon, but that was the point.
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I think that even if the original plan was to have a PS3 release, now the decision of this actually happening will be entirely dependent on if they can make the PC version somewhat successfull.
With the bad publicity the game has, the people at SE that are signing the checks will want to see results before opening the purse for an other release.

They spent lots of money on FFXIV.
They have not yet seen any revenue from the subscription yet.
The launch of FFXIV has had a negative impact on subscription of FFXI ( was to be expected but they expected people moving from one to the other, as of now, they just lost the 15$/month from FFXI )
The value of SE on the market has gone down dramatically.

I would guess they are not swimming in money and that people are not making lines to invest in SE.

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#46 Feb 03 2011 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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opening the purse for an other release.

The PS3 release will cost them next to nothing in comparison with the development costs already accrued. The game has been ported and has a finished product for PS3, SE stated that the game was "ready for PS3 release" but that they were gonna hold off till they were happy with where the game was from a development point of view. SE would actually lose money at this stage in the game by not releasing it on PS3, the asset of a working, finished product on your shelves being scrapped is a loss of capital assets, in addition to the refunds they would need to issue on pre-orders that weren't cancelled already because of the delay. That capital asset loss of scrapping the finished product ready for PS3 release would be greater than their manufacture, distribution and marketting costs for the PS3 version combined, the PS3 release is their ONLY chance to get rereviewed by any gaming rag, PC or console magazine alike. If they can't pull that off the game will probably fail; will SE let that happen (from a company stand point and an outside stand point after this last update) probably not.
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I think that you are right that developpement wize, the work is probably mostly done.
But a MMO is no like any other game.... They won't say "Well... we coded it, might as well release it... and hope they buy it".
A mmo has a non neglectable day to day cost.
You might say.. they are already paying most of these cost with the PC version...... probably true.... but the ps3 will have additionnal cost attached to it.
I would also not minimise the cost of manufacturing and distribution.

So it come back to the success of the PC version... if they can't make it.... They won't even consider putting more $$ into it... and will consider scrapping it completely to stop the bleeding.
#48 Apr 30 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
ok i know its been a long time since someone posted on this thread as a long time fan of square/enix i believe they will release ff 14 for ps3 when idk some say it will be in july or august but since the tsunami in japan maybe pushed back longer but ppl on here are saying it might be money is the reason why it wont be released do you know how much money they make a month from ff 11 a lot i stopped playing ff11 back in sep but before that i know there was atleast 3000 ppl on my server and there was like idk 18 servers still up that didnt merge and u pay $12.95 a month thats not counting if you have add.characters at a $1.00 so if you have atleast 2500 ppl at 12.95 thats $32,375 x's 18 servers thats $582,750 a month so thats almost $7mil a year give or take a few $100k so i know they got the money to make ff14 for ps3 yeah yeah i know some ppl will say "well not that many ppl play ff 11 now" ok well how many years 11 been around for and after the faliure of 14 on pc alot of ppl came back to 11 but anyways they got the money to do it cause it dont cost that much money to keep up the servers and w/e else they got to pay.
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